Releve - Ships Nostalgia
20:57

Welcome
Welcome!Welcome to Ships Nostalgia, the world's greatest online community for people worldwide with an interest in ships and shipping. Whether you are crew, ex-crew, ship enthusiasts or cruisers, this is the forum for you. And what's more, it's completely FREE.

Click here to go to the forums home page and find out more.
Click here to join.
Log in
User Name Password

Releve

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 23rd November 2017, 17:01
double acting double acting is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 183
Releve

I've seen this on menus, what exactly does it mean?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 23rd November 2017, 17:16
Erimus's Avatar
Erimus Erimus is online now  
Senior Member
Organisation: Maritime Enthusiast
Department: Office / Administration
Active: 1958 - 2010
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,862
Never seen it myself but it is a ballet term.....or according to Larousse Dictionary 'action to replace a troop or regiment'...

geoff
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 23rd November 2017, 18:22
Mad Landsman's Avatar
Mad Landsman Mad Landsman is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,159
Nowadays I think it means the same as an Entrée.

When an entrée meant a small course before the main course then the main was termed the relevé - literally something rising up.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 23rd November 2017, 18:28
jg grant jg grant is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,278
Hi DA. It is now an obsolete culinary term when dinners,for some that is, stretched to a dozen or more courses. The releve was introduced about half way through and usually took the form of a sorbet or such as a pallet cleanser. A kind of breather so you could get stuck into the next few courses. There may be a connection with the English word,'relief'.
Hope that helps. Regards.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 23rd November 2017, 18:38
Mad Landsman's Avatar
Mad Landsman Mad Landsman is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,159
Further to my last - Just checked my SOED and it appears that it used to mean any course of a meal. It is the action of removing or lifting up the plates from the previous course in preparation for the next.
The word 'remove' (noun not verb) replaced it.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 23rd November 2017, 19:24
Pat Kennedy's Avatar
Pat Kennedy Pat Kennedy is online now  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 13,697
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Landsman View Post
Further to my last - Just checked my SOED and it appears that it used to mean any course of a meal. It is the action of removing or lifting up the plates from the previous course in preparation for the next.
The word 'remove' (noun not verb) replaced it.
Which brings to the use of the word, remove, (noun) in the context of boarding schools. at least that is the only context I have ever seen it used, as in "Hurree Jamset Ram Singh of the remove"
I never was able to figure out what it meant.
__________________
"Life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life. Get wasted all the time, and you'll have the time of your life!"
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 23rd November 2017, 19:43
Erimus's Avatar
Erimus Erimus is online now  
Senior Member
Organisation: Maritime Enthusiast
Department: Office / Administration
Active: 1958 - 2010
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,862
Pat....it is an easy one...students who didn't progress enough to go up at the end of the school year and were held back for further tuition...happened to me but not at Public School!

geoff
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 23rd November 2017, 19:51
Mad Landsman's Avatar
Mad Landsman Mad Landsman is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,159
Remove - When I was at school I understood it to mean moving to the next or a higher level academically. - A sudden jump as opposed to the normal progress from year to year.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 23rd November 2017, 20:15
Erimus's Avatar
Erimus Erimus is online now  
Senior Member
Organisation: Maritime Enthusiast
Department: Office / Administration
Active: 1958 - 2010
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,862
ML...I believe the opposite because of my own experience....

geoff
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 23rd November 2017, 20:20
Pat Kennedy's Avatar
Pat Kennedy Pat Kennedy is online now  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 13,697
Well that's muddied the water a bit. Any further explanations anyone?
__________________
"Life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life. Get wasted all the time, and you'll have the time of your life!"
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 24th November 2017, 09:40
Johnny Walker Johnny Walker is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 152
releve

According to my Larousse Gastronomique Releve = Remove = Dish which in French service RELIEVES (In the sense that one sentry relives another) The soup or the fish. This course precedes those called entrees.

Reliefs = In French, the left overs of a meal, that which is not used at the table.

Now if that does not make the meaning as clear as mud I do not know what will.

Last edited by Johnny Walker; 24th November 2017 at 09:41.. Reason: spelling mistake
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 24th November 2017, 11:42
Erimus's Avatar
Erimus Erimus is online now  
Senior Member
Organisation: Maritime Enthusiast
Department: Office / Administration
Active: 1958 - 2010
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,862
Just phoned my old boss who went to Public School...what does Remove mean? Ah,that is the year,usually 4th form, where the slower boys were made to catch up,some never caught up and stayed there for more than one year.....but if you are at Harrow it was the name given to the lower 5th,i.e. second band students under the upper 5th,the Gold Band!
So pays your money and takes your choice!
geoff
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 24th November 2017, 19:50
Pat Kennedy's Avatar
Pat Kennedy Pat Kennedy is online now  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 13,697
In Greyfriars school, it meant the lower 4th. (I looked it up)
It seems that there were 3 grades in each year, upper, middle, and lower.
It all makes sense now, in my school it was Alpha, A, and B, graded according to what your dad did for a living.
Boys whose fathers were solicitors, doctors, bank managers etc, were put in Alpha. Sons of shopkeepers, and white collar workers in A, and the rest of us in B. Or at least that it how it seemed to us at the time.
It was a grammar school with aspirations to being a college, we had to play rugger, no soccer allowed.
__________________
"Life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life. Get wasted all the time, and you'll have the time of your life!"
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 24th November 2017, 22:35
BobClay's Avatar
BobClay BobClay is offline
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Department: Radio Officer
Active: 1965 - 1986
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
My location
Posts: 5,250
When I was freelancing in 1974 I signed up for a 6 monther. After 8 months I still hadn't been releved !!

[email protected]@rds !!!

(And that includes those that taught me how to spell )

__________________
"Irreverence is the champion of liberty and its only sure defense."
Mark Twain
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 25th November 2017, 11:17
Varley's Avatar
Varley Varley is offline   SN Supporter
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Active: 1971 - 2011
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,226
Well I was in the Remove at Prep School. It was for us thick buggers in an effort to improve our performance and the only year, until I 'left' school, I approached the top of the class (in fact I did come 'top'). At Reed's the progression was lower 4th, upper 4th, 5th and then, depending on performance 1st year 6th and 2nd year 6th. Or 2nd year 5th and out (Brother did the latter. I was allowed into 6th because Frank Anstis thought it 'would do me good'. Which it did).

Last edited by Varley; 26th November 2017 at 00:35..
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 25th November 2017, 12:44
Barrie Youde Barrie Youde is online now  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,609
In common with most mariners I left school aged sixteen, immediately after the 5th Form and "O" Levels. The Sixth form (into whose portals I never did enter) was divided into VI Science, VI Classics, VI Modern Languages etc. The Remove was labelled VI Dustbin, catering for O Level resits etc.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 25th November 2017, 16:38
Varley's Avatar
Varley Varley is offline   SN Supporter
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Active: 1971 - 2011
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,226
I bet there were a lot of sporty types in the dustbin Barrie.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 25th November 2017, 16:57
Barrie Youde Barrie Youde is online now  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,609
There were!

Another feature of school life was that, at the younger stages, the year was divided as to A, B and C, strictly according to academic ability. (As you kindly ask, I was consistently in the upper half of the B form. The A stream skipped a year in advancing to O levels).

It was an eye-opener, nonetheless, when our history master Jack Hammond (MA, Fitzwilliam House, Cambrige) observed, "Oh yes, it is always the C formers who are the first to come back to school to show off their Jaguars and Rolls-Royces."
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 25th November 2017, 20:39
Erimus's Avatar
Erimus Erimus is online now  
Senior Member
Organisation: Maritime Enthusiast
Department: Office / Administration
Active: 1958 - 2010
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,862
Barrie...rings a bell here too......we had two boys who couldn't pass wind never mind School Cert,so left school a year before exams....one of them started working the fruit markets and had a Jag when we were still going on a bike. The other bought a house with a large garden following a variety of jobs,again including fruit and veg......but today where he lived in the house with garden.....now luxury apartments and named after him!

geoff
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 25th November 2017, 21:18
Barrie Youde Barrie Youde is online now  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,609
One of life's imponderables is, what might have happened if I had stayed at school after O Levels? Probably I would have gone into VI Modern Languages. Do I regret not having done so? Not a bit. I was looking for adventure and I found it by the bucketful in the maritime world.

The only things for which I could possibly have wished for more are:-

More time with horses,

More good sailing (i.e. sea-time under sail)

And more sex.

In the great scheme of things, however, those things overall are of very little consequence and life has been more kind to me than I could ever have wished.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 26th November 2017, 01:02
trotterdotpom trotterdotpom is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 18,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erimus View Post
Barrie...rings a bell here too......we had two boys who couldn't pass wind never mind School Cert,so left school a year before exams....one of them started working the fruit markets and had a Jag when we were still going on a bike. The other bought a house with a large garden following a variety of jobs,again including fruit and veg......but today where he lived in the house with garden.....now luxury apartments and named after him!

geoff
Fruit and veg ... Teesside? Thereby hangs a tale.

John T
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 26th November 2017, 08:30
Erimus's Avatar
Erimus Erimus is online now  
Senior Member
Organisation: Maritime Enthusiast
Department: Office / Administration
Active: 1958 - 2010
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by trotterdotpom View Post
Fruit and veg ... Teesside? Thereby hangs a tale.

John T
Have not seen either for many years but know one did have a spell courtesy of Her Majesty.

Geoff
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off




Support SN


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.