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Old 14th July 2010, 22:39
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I reckon, from the photo posted by isleofthanet, that this is the Antilles. Note how the funnel has collapsed aft, as did the funnel of the Antilles. There are several photos of her in the Maritime Casualties Gallery on this site, before and after she broke her back, e.g. https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galler...s-fire/cat/523
Only, Antilles grounded and caught fire off Mustique in 1971, not South Africa in 1978. Apart from that, the Wreck Centre's caption would be correct!!
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Old 14th July 2010, 23:05
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I reckon, from the photo posted by isleofthanet, that this is the Antilles. Note how the funnel has collapsed aft, as did the funnel of the Antilles. There are several photos of her in the Maritime Casualties Gallery on this site, before and after she broke her back, e.g. https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galler...s-fire/cat/523
Only, Antilles grounded and caught fire off Mustique in 1971, not South Africa in 1978. Apart from that, the Wreck Centre's caption would be correct!!
I have just had a look at the pics of the 'ANTILLES' and it looks right, I have been on all the liner sites, round and round in circles, I knew i had seen this pic before, But it was the date and place that was confusing me.'cueball44'
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I think you`ve cracked it guys.
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Old 15th July 2010, 10:04
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Well the shore line does not look like part of this country.
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Old 15th July 2010, 10:32
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I've seen this picture before, but unfortunately can't recall the ship's name. However, I agree that this is likely to be the ANTILLES. Minor complication: the ANTILLES had a white hull...
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I've seen this picture before, but unfortunately can't recall the ship's name. However, I agree that this is likely to be the ANTILLES. Minor complication: the ANTILLES had a white hull...
A lot of ships changed there colour during there time in service,So i don't think that is relavent.'cueball44'
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She ( may have been ) built with a black hull- sister Flandres was. The photo linked to previously shows her on fire with a white hull but the paint is blistering off. I think the effect of the fire and the passage of time have removed most signs of the white.... https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galler...tilles/cat/523
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Old 16th July 2010, 13:52
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Hi,

On visiting the Wreck Centre in Charlestown near St Austell there is a photo of an unidentifed cruise liner wrecked off South Africa in 1978. Its back looks broken and it looks burnt out, anyone know the details, name and cause etc

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I do hope our searches have answered all your questions regarding the 'Unidentified cruise liner' Wrecked off the coast of ?, 'cueball44'.

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Old 16th July 2010, 23:40
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Yes, thanks to all of you for your research etc, it certainly looks like the Antilles not sure why the hull should look dark, maybe someone coloured in the photo?
I will contact The Wreck Centre with the information

Thanks again

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Old 17th July 2010, 16:08
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Yes, thanks to all of you for your research etc, it certainly looks like the Antilles not sure why the hull should look dark, maybe someone coloured in the photo?
I will contact The Wreck Centre with the information

Thanks again

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Maybe you could ask them why it says it was wrecked on SA coast in 1978!'cueball44'.
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As for the hull color, here's a color photo of the Antilles taken in approximately the same state of decay that shows here hull to have been quite darkened by the fire.

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The wrecked ship in the picture would appear to be the French Antillies lost of Mustique not South Africa.
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Are you sure this is not the 'American star' wreck? https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/images/smilies/yel.gif'cueball44'.
Doesn't look like the American Star, Reminds me of the Andrea Doria with the Funnel design
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Are you sure it is a liner? The Pantalis A Lemos went aground and broke up in Saldanha Bay in 1978. She was a bulk carrier I think. Put South African shipwrecks into a search engine as I did; it comes up with a few things.
this is the pantalis a lemos
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The wrecked ship in the picture would appear to be the French Antillies lost of Mustique not South Africa.
it looks like her indeed - the oceanos sunk at sea - antilles on a reef
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Doesn't look like the American Star, Reminds me of the Andrea Doria with the Funnel design
its not the america star
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She ( may have been ) built with a black hull- sister Flandres was. The photo linked to previously shows her on fire with a white hull but the paint is blistering off. I think the effect of the fire and the passage of time have removed most signs of the white.... https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galle...tilles/cat/523
her she is with the black hull
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Old 9th September 2018, 11:44
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I've seen this picture before, but unfortunately can't recall the ship's name. However, I agree that this is likely to be the ANTILLES. Minor complication: the ANTILLES had a white hull...
she had a black hull as well
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Old 9th September 2018, 14:05
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Photo of "Antilles" wreck (following further disintegration) here:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TDOQFAjsP_...ne-inconnu.jpg
State of port bridge wing exactly matches that in picture of 'mystery ship'.
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