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Old 17th September 2013, 03:17
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Before I had to leave today, I watched the Reuters live feed and saw Concordia about 30 feet out of the muck, nevertheless, it was a bit of a shock to get home five minutes ago and see the left-on full-screen livefeed picture with the thing nearly upright.

Those gashes where she lay on the rocks won't buff out.
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Old 17th September 2013, 03:32
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One thing's for sure ... Fincantieri built the hell out of that thing.

There are many ships that would, long ago, have cracked in two.
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Old 17th September 2013, 03:44
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Before I had to leave today, I watched the Reuters live feed and saw Concordia about 30 feet out of the muck, nevertheless, it was a bit of a shock to get home five minutes ago and see the left-on full-screen livefeed picture with the thing nearly upright.

Those gashes where she lay on the rocks won't buff out.
Bit of filler n she will be as good as new
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Old 17th September 2013, 04:02
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Bit of filler n she will be as good as new
Oh yeah. Little Bondo will make her good as new.
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Old 17th September 2013, 04:18
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Per Crowley Maritime's (parent company of Titan Salvage) Twitter account:

Crowley Maritime @ CrowleyMaritime 17m
Well, hey, # costaconcordia ! Nice to see you upright. # parbuckling @ InfoParbuckling # TITANSalvage # CrowleyMaritime pic.twitter.com/LYGqkV64P2

3:59 am local time in Giglio, she's officially upright. Now to sponson the starboard side and get her out of there.

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Old 17th September 2013, 07:20
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Early morning photos showing damage to starboard side:
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Old 17th September 2013, 07:44
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One thing's for sure ... Fincantieri built the hell out of that thing.

There are many ships that would, long ago, have cracked in two.
Many thanks, litz. As a retired Fincantieri engineer I feel involved in the appreciation
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Old 17th September 2013, 07:47
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Brilliant job. Well done to Crowley, Titan and all concerned. Engineering at its best!
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Old 17th September 2013, 08:08
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Incroyable! That is some feat of engineering.

Who was it who said that salvage begins where seamanship ends?

Take a bow!
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Old 17th September 2013, 08:35
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What a'C' of a job.(note funnel cut off to limit corporate damage control)
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Old 17th September 2013, 09:01
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Bravo T/M, Nick Sloane and his team. Good job, well done
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Old 17th September 2013, 09:40
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Looking at the damage it is hard from the angles shown to see how bad it really is in the scheme of things. Did she start to crush herself under the weight. I expected to see worse to be honest but I am no engineer. .
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Old 17th September 2013, 09:45
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YES GREAT JOB!!!!
after holding breath for 16 hours phew
and hopefully without lessening the seriousnes of the whole incident-
those starboard cabins will be a bit cheaper now-no balconys! and the port ones restricted view due sponsons !
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Old 17th September 2013, 10:21
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Congrats to all for this feat of enginering,and also to the community on Shipsnostalgia for their expert opinions and comic comments, and to those who directed us to the latest live feeds wherever they were coming from in the world after our own local ones closed down. while following this sad disaster over the last months. Thanks lads.

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Old 17th September 2013, 10:24
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18 hours in 30 seconds...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x14...-secondes_news
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Old 17th September 2013, 10:43
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Looking at the starboard side damage, I wonder how much that has weakened the hull? Even with the flotation tanks fitted, I would have thought that her breaking up in any sort of seaway would be likely? Particularly as winter is approaching.
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Old 17th September 2013, 11:15
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I'll have to check out that link. Just watched the Kiel Monitor compilation for Sept. 16 at:

http://www.kielmonitor.de/kino.php?cam=concordia

I appreciate the Kiel site, since I had to be out all day and only saw the first of the roll and the last of the roll.
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Old 17th September 2013, 11:19
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Looking at the second photo above, is the hull twisted? The aft end decks appear to be tilted to port, while the fwd end decks appear twisted to stbd?
Or, is my laptop screen bent??

All that weight, lying on the thinner upper deck scantlings - it definitely is a wonder it didn't snap in two.

I wonder if any thought has been given towards all new cruise ships being designed with W/T longitudinal bulkheads through the machinery spaces and lower service compartments. It would be a real pain in the butt getting around with the extra W/T doors & bulkheads, but it would give the damaged stability numbers a huge boost.
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Old 17th September 2013, 11:29
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Congrats to all for this feat of enginering,and also to the community on Shipsnostalgia for their expert opinions and comic comments, and to those who directed us to the latest live feeds wherever they were coming from in the world after our own local ones closed down. while following this sad disaster over the last months. Thanks lads.
Well said barney b, my sentiments exactly.

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Old 17th September 2013, 11:53
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I touch my forelock in admiration for what has been achieved by all involved in this process. From the initial planning stages through the roll on and hopefully the eventual towing away. I am sure there will be a 'documentary' in due couirse!
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Old 17th September 2013, 12:06
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...I wonder if any thought has been given towards all new cruise ships being designed with W/T longitudinal bulkheads through the machinery spaces and lower service compartments. It would be a real pain in the butt getting around with the extra W/T doors & bulkheads, but it would give the damaged stability numbers a huge boost.
Lusitania had logitudinal bulkheads in machinery spaces and lower service compartments. Didn't do *her* much good, though her damage and sinking scenario wouldn't necessarily apply to incidents more common than torpedos.

The official report (such as it was) on Concordia recommended resumption of double hull construction around essential machinery spaces. I'm curious just when we went from the furied addition of a double hull to Olympic (after the fact) to a return to single skin in modern ships. I wouldn't even be able to guess it to a decade.
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Old 17th September 2013, 12:39
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Excellent series of pictures here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ast-Italy.html

Although they seem to think the salvage operation has now been completed and she simply needs "towing away"
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Old 17th September 2013, 12:46
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Lusitania had logitudinal bulkheads in machinery spaces and lower service compartments. Didn't do *her* much good, though her damage and sinking scenario wouldn't necessarily apply to incidents more common than torpedos.

The official report (such as it was) on Concordia recommended resumption of double hull construction around essential machinery spaces. I'm curious just when we went from the furied addition of a double hull to Olympic (after the fact) to a return to single skin in modern ships. I wouldn't even be able to guess it to a decade.
As long as you have fools willing to play the "let's see how fast and how close can I get" game, there is just so many wt compartments, bulkheads and double hulls you can add.

Remember: if it can float, it can sink!
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Old 17th September 2013, 14:13
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An awesome job, respect to Titan and Micoperi.
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When and if they find the 2 missing people they should drag the captain in manacles to the bodies and show him his result of bravery jumping ship before he knew his crew and passengers where off before him? May he rot in hell
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