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Old 23rd October 2018, 17:44
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WW1 drifter Girl Bessie.

Good day all.

Would there be any way of finding out who was Skipper of drifter LT435 GIRL BESSIE when she was active in WW1? She was lost on 6th July 1916 when caught by a submarine near the Tyne and all crew were saved.

I have exhausted just about every method of finding crew names and was wondering if there was some way that I could find out.

A big ask but any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 24th October 2018, 09:32
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Lowestoft Skippers

Clem

I am in the early stages of researching my family's fishing heritage and they have strong links with Lowestoft, Milford, Grimsby and Fleetwood.

Any help with the following would be useful to me :

Alexander Thompson Fisherman Lowestoft and Great Grandfather
Kenneth Alexander Thompson Skipper Lizzie Melling
George Henry Thompson Died in WW2 Loch Doon
Chester William Percival Thompson Died WW2 Willing Boys
Harry "Wompo" Thompson Milford Knight
Ronald Thompson ?

We have some details, photographs and paintings but sketchy and would appreciate any help at all

Many thanks

Ken Thompson
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Old 3rd March 2019, 02:17
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WH Podd Ltd

Hello from Australia
I was in Lowestoft last year, and chatted to the attendant on the Mincarlo. My wife's family was Podd, the first coming to Western Australia in the late 1890s. The WH Podd family are first cousins.

I would like to know a bit more about the WH Podd Ltd company, which I assume (from when Mincarlo was sold in 1973, more than 35 years after Walter Humphrey Podd died) continued in business through the 1970s.

Any links I can check?
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Old 3rd March 2019, 23:25
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I have just located Raymond's post in this forum, this topic - from 2006!
The link to the site will possibly tell me everything about WH Podd family shipping and company that I want to know.
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Old 11th March 2019, 13:28
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Hi
The crew lists for the Girl Bessie, Official Number 119383, are held at the Maritime History Archive in St John's, Canada - see https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/view...cial_No=119383.
There is a link on their page which describes how to get images of the documents - not cheap, but they are helpful.
You can see more details about the Girl Bessie on the CLIP site at:http://crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum/119383 with links to the Mercantile Navy List for more details.
Good luck with the search.
Pete Owens, CLIP
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Old 27th August 2019, 05:03
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I am looking for picture of LT 346 Boy Russel of Lowestoft. The trawle has number ON 119354. In 1911 it was sold to Sweden and the year after to Cape Town South Africa. I have only seen one photo of very poor quality in Sweden. Anybody here who has seen photo?
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Old 29th August 2019, 17:52
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The only image I have seen of BOY RUSSELL is this painting.
https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/...ll-lt346-10916.
Try an e-mail to Lowestoft Library. They are the custodians of the photographic collection of the Port of Lowestoft Historical Society.
If any one has a good photograph it will be there.
https://www.suffolklibraries.co.uk/l...stoft-library/

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Old 29th August 2019, 18:44
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Thank you Roger. I will try the Library.
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Old 11th October 2019, 16:33
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Lightbulb Hi St. Margaret's Church, Lowestoft Memorial

We have a Fishermen's Memorial on our north wall which contains 260 names including 140 vessels. Whilst we can find most info that we require for our family history/fishing vessels research from old Lowestoft Journals we are having trouble finding info on pre 1900 listings.
Zenith - 1882, Red Rose - 1883, Home Bay -1890, Sea Flower - 1888, Prima Donna - 1884, Rose of Sharon - 1883, Forget-me-not - 1885, Black Diamond - 1891, George & Elizabeth - 1864, iam -1891, Donum Patris - 1886, Charles Henry - 1895, Maud - 1882, Henry Wesley - 1888, Skimmer of the Sea - 1881, Fisherman - 1894, May - 1893, Shepherd - 1887, North Star - 1861, Susan &Ann - 1874, Desire - 1892, Sydenham - 1867, Superb - 1882, and Violet - 1896.
If anybody can supply info I would be very grateful. Thank you
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Old 11th October 2019, 17:03
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Lowestoft ships

Good afternoon
You can look up details of the vessels on our site, here: https://crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsalpha. This shows all the vessels from any port which were large enough to have an official number - in general 15 tons or so.
As you probably know, the shipping registers and fishing registers are held at Suffolk Record Office in Lowestoft - there are details of their holdings on our site, here: https://crewlist.org.uk/registers/registerslist?Organisationid=469&Portid=131, and this is a link to their site:http://www.suffolkarchives.co.uk/col...ecord/GB175_25
It looks as though the fishing registers only date from 1900 or so, but the main registers of shipping for earlier years will have records of some of the ships - again only those larger than 15 tons.
The record office does also have the crew lists and agreements for some of the ships, but we have not been able to find anything detailed about what they hold. Those are highly interesting documents especially from a family history point of view, and apparently there is a card index of individual names. If anyone has more information on what is there, please let us know.
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Old 11th October 2019, 20:13
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Thank you Clip.

[FONT="Arial Black"]I have been through the crew lists etc held at the Lowestoft Library. Also been through all the main family history web sites. I have found a limited amount of data required on the Deaths at Sea as on FindMyPast. Our Heritage centre has all the Lowestoft Journals from 1890. Just found out that the Journal started earlier at around 1870 so I may find some on the microfisks that they have. I posted my request in the hope that a member may have more details from their own family research or have been able to find pre 1900 info elsewhere.
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Old 15th October 2019, 11:32
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Hi.- St. Margaret's Church Lowestoft Fishermen's Memorial 1860 to 1923. I have just completed an index for this and this can be seen on web site; stmargaretslowestoft.co.uk/history
Any corrections/amendments/family history details and ships reg. no's would be appreciated to assist me in my task of compiling a full detailed information report.
Note; Ships reg. No's are those as used at the time of the reported death. Some Lowestoft Fishermen would have been crew members of vessels sailing from other ports. eg; James Alp on the Energy which was operating out of Newlyn, Cornwall.
Thank you for any assistance that you can give me with this task.
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Old 16th October 2019, 11:33
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StMargaretsLowestoft Web Site

Additional search info.
When you open the front page click on Church and Center to view Memorial listing. Thank You
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Old 27th October 2019, 18:12
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Lowestoft Deaths at sea

Has anybody any information on the "Skimmer of the Sea" No. 14747 that sailed from Lowestoft with Henry Boon as Master but failed to return with reported drowning of all 7 crew on 14th October 1881.
Thank You
Note some reports give the vessels number as 14749.
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Old 27th October 2019, 19:07
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Hello,
According to her last onshore Crew Agreement. Her Master was William Cook. It seems Henry Boon was Mate.
https://www.mun.ca/mha/1881/onview.p...=21647&pagev=1
Makes interesting reading.

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Old 27th October 2019, 19:09
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Hello Arthur
The official number for the Skimmer of the Sea was 14747 - see: https://crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum/14747 - you can see images of MNL which give details about her by following links on our page.
Her crew list are at the Maritime History Archive in Newfoundland and, for 1881, most of the documents MHA hold are available online, see: https://www.mun.ca/mha/1881/onview.php?Record_ID=21644&pagev=1 so you can see details of the crew.
There are many reports about her in newspapers, such as the Norwich Mercury and Lowestoft Journal, available via FindMyPast. Evidently she was just one of many ships which were lost in the gale of 14 October 1881. 21 children of the crew lost their father.
Pete and Jan Owens, CLIP
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Old 27th October 2019, 22:29
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Brilliant

Thank You Pete and Jan CLIP
Yes we are looking through the early Lowestoft Journals for stories on the vessels crewed by the fishermen recorded on our Memorial. We have a few that are pre Journal publication. I wonder if you have similar details for them?
1867 17th August - Sydenham
1864 November - George and Elizabeth
1861 North Star
The 1st Named fisherman on our list is one Samuel Mewse with the date May 1860. Sorry I do not know the name of the vessel.
Thanks again
Arthur
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Old 29th October 2019, 18:48
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Sydenham

Found further information on above.
The Sydenham Official Number was 35500
On the 17th August 1867 this vessel was reported as "Lost at Sea"
The fisherman on our memorial was a John Peck aged 22 who being reported as having drowned along with at least 22 others.
Any report on this incident would be much appreciated
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Old 30th October 2019, 13:31
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Sydenham, ON 35500

Good morning
The crew list/agreement for the ship may give you some details of the incident which resulted in the death, similar to that for the Skimmer of the Sea. Apart from some of 1881 and 1915, there are no crew list images online - you need to track down where the documents are held and then order (and pay for) a copy from the archive.
You can search for details of any British registered ship by name on our site at: https://crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsalpha
In the case of the Sydenham, there are several of that name - see:https://crewlist.org.uk/data/vessels...&submit=search
If you know that her ON was 35500, then click on the CLIP button under crew lists against that ON. This will show you where the crew lists for the ship are held, see: https://crewlist.org.uk/data/archivecrewlists/35500
You'll see that the lists for 1867 are held at The National Archives (TNA) in BT 99/367. Clicking on that link will take you to the TNA catalogue for BT 99/367, here:https://discovery.nationalarchives.g.../367&_aq=35500.
If you click on the title for BT 99/367, it will take you to the next page: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C2477707 and on that page is a link which takes you to the order a copy page. You tell them what you want, they tell you how much it costs, you pay and get scanned images by email. The cost is 10 plus, depending on the number of pages scanned.
You can use this system to track down the crew lists for any British registered ship. I'll put some details about the North Star in a separate post.
Pete and Jan Owens, CLIP
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Old 30th October 2019, 13:58
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North Star

Good morning again
As prevously, the crew lists for a vessel may provide some detail of incidents, including deaths, but you need to track down the documents and order copies from the archive holding them.
There were several vessels named North Star, see:https://crewlist.org.uk/data/vessels...&submit=search
The most likely one is the first one with ON 6650. This is where her crew lists are held: https://crewlist.org.uk/data/archivecrewlists/6650.
Crew lists for 1861 are held at either The National Archives (TNA) or the Maritime History Museum (NMM), so if there are none at TNA they must be at NMM if they are anywhere (though NMM still do not have a catalogue of the crew lists they hold, after having them for fifty years).
Ordering copies of crew lists from NMM is complicated - you have to register with Aeon, and the system is clunky - but it does work. Start from here: https://www.rmg.co.uk/national-marit...s-request-form
I hope that is some help.
Pete and Jan Owens, CLIP
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Old 30th October 2019, 18:08
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Thanks again Pete and Jan

I will look into your recommendations
Thank Arthur
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