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Old 31st January 2010, 18:16
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Hello Derek,

Yes, I remember the incident at Bandar Mashahr. I was 2/O on the British Aviator and we were on a regular run , taking fuel oil from Bandar Mashahr and "spiking" VLCC cargoes with it by discharging into them at anchor in the middle of the gulf. I am afraid that we had a little rhyme about the Trent of "British Trent - came in straight and went out bent". I believe that we arrived after the incident was over, but the Trent was still alongside at that time and our C/E etc went over to see if they could help.

Did you ever get ashore to see a film at the seaman's mission in Bandar Mashahr? That was fun as you got the added entertainment of some very large shoreside flying beetles being attracted by the lights and ricocheting off members of the audience in the dark!

I was very sorry to hear about the Trent at Wandelaar , which was a lethal place in fog. I sailed on cross channel ferries later and (on the rare occasions that we had to pick up a Pilot) always treated the Pilot station approach with even greater care than we had before the Trent.

One of the VLCCs that we "spiked" out in the gulf with Bandar Mashahr oil was a French BP Tanker and our Chief Steward could never got over the fact that they had 20 tonne wine tanks on board. If he could have made them a standard fitting on UK BP Tankers then he would have! <smile>


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I had the pleasure of being 4/E on the Aviator doing that run. Joined in Bremerhaven and called into Durban on the way around to the Gulf. Loaded a very suspect cargo of something! Steamed 24 hours into the Indian Ocean and discharged it over the side. We had to replace the seals of the pump we used as what ever it was corroded them. Started spiking the "Big Ones" about April time. I paid off at RAK covered from head to foot with Prickly Heat. Not fun.
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Old 31st January 2010, 20:27
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Hello George,

Many Thanks for the photo.
Those were happy days and good experience for later years when we did the Parita Bay transhipments, using a anchored BP VLCC to load Alaskan oil into smaller tankers to go through the Panama Canal.

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Old 31st January 2010, 21:12
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Many Thanks Billieboy,

Red and white wine tanks sound extremely civilised!

If only they had been fitted to BP Tankers then they could have saved some of my shipmates from what they regarded as the ultimate horror.... We experienced this when the ship ran out of all drinks and the only thing available was the ONION BEER in the seamans mish at Kharg Island! <smile>

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Old 1st February 2010, 09:45
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One of the 1970's "P" boats was reputed to have had wine tanks. Originally destined for French BP she was reflagged towards the end of her construction so the tanks remained in place and unfortunately used. Anybody know if this is true and if which one ?
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Old 23rd November 2010, 19:28
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My son Matthew Clements was Electrician on the British Trent, and was killed in the aftermath of the Wandelaar collision. It was a series of errors which caused the loss of life, and the initial collision was just the start of it.

Having been at sea myself, and knowing what I know, it has been at times, quite difficult not to ask some difficult questions; about the incompetence of the Western Winner's bridge team, the slackness of the local VTS that morning, and the delay in abandoning ship. However my wife and I decided that we suffered enough just losing Matt, without prolonging our pain, and we have lived with the Inquest Verdict of "Unlawful Killing" never expecting that anyone will be brought to justice for it.

We try to remember Matt as he was, very funny, quite conscientious, and just lovely. We try to support the Mission to Seafarers as a way to put something back, and I keep my membership of Nautilus, because Numast were absolutely brilliant in the two or three years after the accident, and we will be for ever grateful to them.

I love ships and the sea, but it is a bit of a bitter sweet relationship since June 3rd 1993.
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Old 23rd November 2010, 19:36
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I remember that incident Trevor, but never got into it as the repair went elsewhere.

My belated condolences to you and your good lady.

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Old 24th November 2010, 10:36
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Very sorry to read your posting Trevor .. the Trent seemed to be somewhat jinxed didn't she, my belated condolences.

It was lucky no lives were lost at Bandar-Mahshahr that evening, I have often thought ..."what if?"
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Old 24th November 2010, 20:31
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Had the pleasure of being 4/E on the Aviator whilst she was spiking cargoes in the gulf. That particular French ship was the Chinon. Paid off June/July time covered in prickly heat having edured the company for a coupe of months of a 3/E called Ishmail Baccus, a charming chap!!!
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Old 9th December 2010, 20:17
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I was horrified by the loss of life on the British Trent. Some weeks before the collision she visited the Total terminal at South Kilingholme on the Humber were I worked as supervisor and was suprised to meet an old shipmate Kevin Kielthy the r/o. The vessel was alongside long enough for him to come ashore, visit me at home and have a meal were we talked of old times on the "Ensign".
I believe Kevin was one of those overcome by smoke in the lifeboat.
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Old 23rd December 2010, 20:11
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I also sailed with the master when he was second mate on the Lancer( I was an apprentice), we met again years later when I was a cargo inspector working at the Immingham oil terminal and he was c/o on the Dragoon.
When the vessel was all fast and a gangway was out I was enjoying a long chat with him on the deck when we both witnessed a small coaster sailing downstream and obviously out of control collide violently with a large Stolt tanker loading motor spirit on the adjacent berth.
Fortunately the Stolt ship ended up with a few shaken crew members and some bent frames and shell plating but the coaster was badly damaged all along the starboard accomadation and had to be towed into Hull.
This was just one of a large number of serious incidents I have seen during 30 odd years on the Humber.
I often think of Stan,does anyone know what became of him after the Trent?
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Stan, after a while ashore during the investigation, inquest etc etc went back to sea as Master on the Northwest Shearwater and after quite a number of trips he retired.
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Old 24th December 2010, 15:44
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Thanks for that Satanic Mechanic.
I hope he enjoys a long and happy retirement.
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Old 16th May 2011, 18:13
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Red Devil,
Yes I'm afraid Kevin Kielthy was killed during the abandonment when the lifeboat was overcome by smoke and combustion products which prevented it being lowered. They were left with no option but to jump over the side and some didn't make it.

Kevin had been forced to abandon the radio room because it was full of smoke. In the case of Matt, he was missing in the sea for a month, and when they found him his blood was heavily contaminated with carbon monoxide.

I gather that things have not improved much at the Wandelaar in the last 18 years.

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Old 16th May 2011, 18:42
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I also sailed with the master when he was second mate on the Lancer( I was an apprentice), we met again years later when I was a cargo inspector working at the Immingham oil terminal and he was c/o on the Dragoon.
When the vessel was all fast and a gangway was out I was enjoying a long chat with him on the deck when we both witnessed a small coaster sailing downstream and obviously out of control collide violently with a large Stolt tanker loading motor spirit on the adjacent berth.
Fortunately the Stolt ship ended up with a few shaken crew members and some bent frames and shell plating but the coaster was badly damaged all along the starboard accomadation and had to be towed into Hull.
This was just one of a large number of serious incidents I have seen during 30 odd years on the Humber.
I often think of Stan,does anyone know what became of him after the Trent?
On the Border Reiver 1962 new year a bunker barge come down out of control and went the pipe work on the original south Immingham jetty.
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Old 17th May 2011, 15:37
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Yes I'm afraid Kevin Kielthy was killed during the abandonment when the lifeboat was overcome by smoke and combustion products which prevented it being lowered. They were left with no option but to jump over the side and some didn't make it.

Kevin had been forced to abandon the radio room because it was full of smoke. In the case of Matt, he was missing in the sea for a month, and when they found him his blood was heavily contaminated with carbon monoxide.

I gather that things have not improved much at the Wandelaar in the last 18 years.




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Trevor,

I'm just recently started a database on BP Radio Officers, only yesterday I came across the name PK Kielthy, as far as I know his first ship with BP was the Comet around September 1970, I guess this is the same person.

I took notice of his name as it was a very unusual spelling.

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a link to a photo of the Aviator alongside the Trident late August 1975.
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I had the pleasure of being 4/E on the Aviator doing that run. Joined in Bremerhaven and called into Durban on the way around to the Gulf. Loaded a very suspect cargo of something! Steamed 24 hours into the Indian Ocean and discharged it over the side. We had to replace the seals of the pump we used as what ever it was corroded them. Started spiking the "Big Ones" about April time. I paid off at RAK covered from head to foot with Prickly Heat. Not fun.
Small world. I also joined the Aviator, as 3rd Mate, in Bremerhaven at the same time (1/4/75). We slow steamed for most of the trip to Capetown, having to time arrival to uplift a new circ. pump motor that was being delivered there by the Southampton Castle on 30/4/75. We then called in to Durban to load some 'Spent Caustic' from Durban refinery for disposal overside once clear of the coast. They'd never get away with that nowadays! I then left once we reached RAK on 24/5/75.
The OM and CO also joined at Bremerhaven and were fresh from being on the British Ambassador when it sank in the far east. As 3rd Mate I was a captive audience on the bridge every night and the OM would come up regularly, after a few G&Ts, and bore me to death with the story of its demise.....
I have this photo of myself on the bridge along with the RO and CO:
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Small world. I also joined the Aviator, as 3rd Mate, in Bremerhaven at the same time (1/4/75). We slow steamed for most of the trip to Capetown, having to time arrival to uplift a new circ. pump motor that was being delivered there by the Southampton Castle on 30/4/75. We then called in to Durban to load some 'Spent Caustic' from Durban refinery for disposal overside once clear of the coast. They'd never get away with that nowadays! I then left once we reached RAK on 24/5/75.
The OM and CO also joined at Bremerhaven and were fresh from being on the British Ambassador when it sank in the far east. As 3rd Mate I was a captive audience on the bridge every night and the OM would come up regularly, after a few G&Ts, and bore me to death with the story of its demise.....
I have this photo of myself on the bridge along with the RO and CO:
Maurice Cannell was the Old Man concernef. I had sailed with him when he was Mate on the Holly in 1971. He liked G&T then as well.
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The Br Trent was port side alongside in Bandar-Mahshahr loading naphtha, supervised by myself as Third Mate....
The deck of the Trent cracked open like an eggshell around 3-4 st'bd wing tanks...
Having thought about it - pretty certain now that we were st'bd side too as we would also have swung off the berth - so the damage was done on the port side of the maindeck.
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I was a apprentice at Swan Hunter drydocks at Wallsend on Tyne in the late 50's and I remember the yard fitting an Inert Gas system into the British Skill and this was a retro fit, how successful the system was I do not know. I remember the funnel being cut in two vertically to allow the scrubber tower to be fitted inside the funnel.
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Trevor,

I'm just recently started a database on BP Radio Officers, only yesterday I came across the name PK Kielthy, as far as I know his first ship with BP was the Comet around September 1970, I guess this is the same person.

I took notice of his name as it was a very unusual spelling.

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Graham ,have u got Tim Cooks details /.He lives in Cleethorpes /Grimsby now. Regular contact with him on Facebook, but he does not frequent this site now. E-mail is same .
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Graham ,have u got Tim Cooks details /.He lives in Cleethorpes /Grimsby now. Regular contact with him on Facebook, but he does not frequent this site now. E-mail is same .
Hi Alan,
Yes I have , I was in touch with him in 2013, don't you remember you made the introduction.
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Yes I have , I was in touch with him in 2013, don't you remember you made the introduction.
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Old 14th February 2016, 22:15
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Trent Bent

In fact the tanks that were breached were full of Naphtha. The Wing tanks were full, and we were waiting to load the centre tanks. It was 23 minutes past seven from what I remember, as it was my Birthday, and I was waiting to have my 19th Birthday Party when the collission happened. The guys on the stern of the Texaco Liverpool, first thought it was ballast spaying up in the air, but as the cloud of vapour decended on them, they realised it was Naphtha. The temperature created was sufficient to melt the degausing coils in the vicinity of the wing tanks, which I thought were 7 and 8 Starboard. Regarding the Railway tracks... I seem to rember them being described as such. BP, then loaded the ship with deisel oil as a cargo, and we sailed through the Suez Canal, before the Bitter Lakes had been cleared of sunken ships, that was surreal. 5/9/75, will be a date I will never forget.
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Old 10th April 2016, 17:36
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I fully appreciate the total confusion comment about the shoreside there. My first trip was on the MV British Chancellor as Eng Ap. My last day aboard was there when they overpressurised the diesel bunker line and blew out a valve gland in our engineroom. The resultant spray set fire to the commutator of the running genny and up went the front end of the engine room with us working under the plates in the after end. After we shut down the fire valves/lids etc to smother the fire we saw several vehicles with flashing lights making tracks over the dunes.However the tugs made a magnificent sight coming down river like magestic floating fountains.
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