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Old 8th July 2010, 21:06
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Unidentified Cruise Liner Wreck S.Africa 1978

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On visiting the Wreck Centre in Charlestown near St Austell there is a photo of an unidentifed cruise liner wrecked off South Africa in 1978. Its back looks broken and it looks burnt out, anyone know the details, name and cause etc

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Old 9th July 2010, 17:40
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Are you sure it is a liner? The Pantalis A Lemos went aground and broke up in Saldanha Bay in 1978. She was a bulk carrier I think. Put South African shipwrecks into a search engine as I did; it comes up with a few things.
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Old 10th July 2010, 11:12
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There is one cruise liner wreck that is well known but the wrong timeline is Oceanos...she was lost on Aug 4, 1991 off South Africa.

She's the one where the crew abandoned ship ahead of the passengers. Thankfully everyone did get off in time but it was a close thing and only due to the bravery of the entertainers who took charge of the evacuation.
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Old 10th July 2010, 18:00
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Hi,

Yes I took a photo of it, it is near to the coast, can I send the photo to you?

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Old 10th July 2010, 19:18
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We have a thread about oceanos on our sister site, The Cruising Forum. It includes photo's taken from her decks as she sank. Moss Hills, one of the entertainers has built a site which we have linked on TCF and he would like passengers and crew who may recognise themselves to contact him...

http://www.thecruisingforum.com/showthread.php?t=9174
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Hi,

On visiting the Wreck Centre in Charlestown near St Austell there is a photo of an unidentifed cruise liner wrecked off South Africa in 1978. Its back looks broken and it looks burnt out, anyone know the details, name and cause etc

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What did this ship look like 'IN THE PHOTO' you say its back looks broken, is there two parts in the photo, If it is the 'PANTELIS A. LEMOS' it would just be one piece,But that ship is not a liner!,'cueball44' PS did you view this photo in 1978, or did it say on the photo that it was wrecked in 1978?

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Old 10th July 2010, 23:51
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It is in one piece with back broken in the middle, the funnel is raked back. The hull is a dark colour with white superstructure..It says " Unidentified cruise liner South Africa 1978"
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Old 11th July 2010, 23:05
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This ship is similar to the Scandinavian Sea, is that any help?
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Old 13th July 2010, 07:21
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Photo of Wrecked Cruise? Liner S Africa 1978

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Old 13th July 2010, 14:33
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Not ringing any bells here either! I don't recall any liners wrecking back then. We had small tankers Romelia and Antipolis in '77 and their accom & funnel were situated well aft.
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Are you sure this is not the 'American star' wreck? 'cueball44'.
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Not really wishing to doubt the Wreck Centre in Charlestown but tend to agree with cueball?? Possible the title is incorrect.
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This may help..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_America_(1940)
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This vessel's aft part is skewed in a similar manner to America Star. However this wrecks wheelhouse appears missing as if destroyed by fire? America Star had twin derrick posts forward which remained on the wreck for a long time. They are missing in this wreck.
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Also that wreck is Port side to shore and America is starboard to shore.

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Sorry Mr Sparkie,

It did not help at all. Nothing there. But there is here http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...26tbs%3Disch:1

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For some reason, you are required to click on the link next to "DID YOU MEAN"........... in red.

It's a full history of the ship.
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Hi,

On visiting the Wreck Centre in Charlestown near St Austell there is a photo of an unidentifed cruise liner wrecked off South Africa in 1978. Its back looks broken and it looks burnt out, anyone know the details, name and cause etc

Cheers

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The name of this ship is 'BRITANIS', Built as the 'MONTEREY' for the 'MATSON LINE', She was also operated as the 'LURLINE&MATSONIA', Before being sold to 'CHANDRILS' And operated as 'BRITANIS', After being laid up in 'TAMPA' For a number of years, She sank on the way to the scrappers off the South Africa Coast, She was similar to the 'SS AMERICAN STAR'CUEBALL44'.

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Old 14th July 2010, 00:06
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Nicely distinguished Cueball.
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Only problem I can see with that is that Britanis capsized and sank 50 miles offshore.... this one is ashore with a broken back......
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The name of this ship is 'BRITANIS', Built as the 'MONTEREY' for the 'MATSON LINE', She was also operated as the 'LURLINE&MATSONIA', Before being sold to 'CHANDRILS' And operated as 'BRITANIS', After being laid up in 'TAMPA' For a number of years, She sank on the way to the scrappers off the South Africa Coast, She was similar to the 'SS AMERICAN STAR'CUEBALL44'.
Also the word ,or name 'AUSTRALIS' has something to do with it.,'cueball44.
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Also the word ,or name 'AUSTRALIS' has something to do with it.,'cueball44.
And if this is not the 'BRITANIS' ,Then all i can say is that the photo of the ship that looks like the 'SS AMERICAN STAR' has been taken in such a way that the two big derricks on the foredeck are for some reason not visable, I must say every time i look at the photo, It looks to be the 'SS AMERICAN STAR''cueball44'.
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Old 14th July 2010, 09:44
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This does'nt look at all like the American Star, having followed its destruction at the time. This ship looks a lot younger and appears a bit wider also the funnel is totally different to that ship

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Old 14th July 2010, 20:57
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Is this perhaps not that ex-Argentinian Supply Ship that sank near the Falklands in 1982? Looks similar.
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Is this perhaps not that ex-Argentinian Supply Ship that sank near the Falklands in 1982? Looks similar.
The 'ISA DE LOS ESTADOS' Was to small to be the ship in the photo,At only 3,900 tons, And anyway that ship was sunk,'cueball44'.PS and its not the 'BAHIA BUEN SUCESCO' either.

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