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Old 16th July 2011, 20:41
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Posh, true or false

has anyone got any idea of the true meaning of Port out starboard home,some say it is just an urban myth,and P&o apparantly say that they never sold tickets stamped POSH.

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Old 16th July 2011, 20:54
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has it got something to do with the trade winds?john
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Old 16th July 2011, 21:33
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My mother in the early fifties told me about port out starboard home. Those days almost everyone travelled by ship The saying has been around for a long time!
My mother was a RN Nursing sister during the second world war in Ceylon and she sailed on Amarapura, a Paddy Henderson ship to the island.

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Old 16th July 2011, 21:35
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Sailing East so you got accommodation on Portside to get the breezes off the land, starboard home on west heading gets you the same breezes, hence P.O.S.H. I suppose it came from seasoned travellers & crewmembers?
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Old 16th July 2011, 21:44
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Sailing East so you got accommodation on Portside to get the breezes off the land, starboard home on west heading gets you the same breezes, hence P.O.S.H. I suppose it came from seasoned travellers & crewmembers?
The argument in support of the alleged origin of the phrase was more to do with the relative position of the sun. Between the UK and India/Far East, the sun was to the South of the ship; the cabins on the port side were facing away from the sun on the way out and therefore cooler than those on the starboard side. On the way home, the starboard side cabins would have been away from the direct sun.

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Old 16th July 2011, 21:47
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Who knows the true origin?[/QUOTE]

Probably that guy who signs himself off as Anon
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Old 18th July 2011, 19:47
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The argument in support of the alleged origin of the phrase was more to do with the relative position of the sun. Between the UK and India/Far East, the sun was to the South of the ship; the cabins on the port side were facing away from the sun on the way out and therefore cooler than those on the starboard side. On the way home, the starboard side cabins would have been away from the direct sun.

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Absolutely correct,

The origin comes from the colonisation of India, the far east and the Antipodes, in the era of sailing ships.

The toffs would travel P.O.S.H. it cost a lot more but was a lot cooler and I believe it was the forerunner of first class accommodation when passenger liners finally appeared on the scene.

All we got was a wind scupper, remember them? six to a cabin, midsummer in the red sea, often slept on the foredeck, so bloomin hot, happy days,

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http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/p...rd%20home.html
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Certainly in the late 1950's & 60's in the prewar-built P&O mailships that lacked air conditioning the heat aboard in the Red Sea was intense. With a following wind it was most uncomfortable so we used to turn 180 degrees for a few minutes to get a good draught through thr windshutes. I heard the story of P.O.S.H. but there was never any evidence it was genuine. The oldest hands always claimed it applied "before their time". Nice story, though.
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Old 19th July 2011, 05:26
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I'll go with this: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/p...rd%20home.html

It's a myth the same as that Stow High In Transit sh!t.

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Well, I reckon that link is rollocks.... 'the leader of the push' was never posh....

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The heat in th Red Sea plus that vile tasting water we took on in Aden.plesent dreams everyone
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