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Old 23rd November 2019, 23:47
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Into The Raging Sea

Just read this fascinating book by Rachel Slade, about the loss of the
El Faro, in 2015.
Basically, tells of the last voyage, where the Captain, for various reasons takes his ship into the eye of a hurricane, eventuate get in the loss of the ship and all 33 souls on board.
The author points her finger, it seems, at the Captain, shipping line, and other agencies, as being to some degree culpable.
I have looked at some of the footage of the NTSB inquiry, and have found the whole saga fascinating, and undoubtedly avoidable.
A sad, but compelling read. I recommend it strongly, not normally my type of book. But it is just a very well written book.
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Old 24th November 2019, 06:31
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Gotta keep to the schedule regardless of weather.

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Old 29th November 2019, 03:12
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Just read this fascinating book by Rachel Slade, about the loss of the
El Faro, in 2015.
Basically, tells of the last voyage, where the Captain, for various reasons takes his ship into the eye of a hurricane, eventuate get in the loss of the ship and all 33 souls on board.
The author points her finger, it seems, at the Captain, shipping line, and other agencies, as being to some degree culpable.
I have looked at some of the footage of the NTSB inquiry, and have found the whole saga fascinating, and undoubtedly avoidable.
A sad, but compelling read. I recommend it strongly, not normally my type of book. But it is just a very well written book.
Looks interesting. Just ordered it.
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Old 29th November 2019, 03:16
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Looks interesting. Just ordered it.
Hi, it is, and there is quite a bit on You Tube about the event as well.
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Old 29th November 2019, 03:21
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Found this one straight away:

The Investigation of the Sinking of US Cargo Vessel El Faro

Pity I cant embed the video.
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The transcript of the bridge voice recorder puts a chill down your spine. Recommended reading. It is on the web.
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Old 29th November 2019, 15:35
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Gales

I remember a Captain in Fyffes driving his ship into a gale…….2nd Mate told the tale he was just going up to the chartroom at 2400hrs to be met with a deluge of salt water…whole bridge front had been stove in. I think the Captain was fired, what reason he had for driving the ship into a gale remains unclear.
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Old 29th November 2019, 19:19
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https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/...ts/MAR1701.pdf

Read the whole 300 page NTSB (US) National Transportation Safety Board - report as I have then check back in here.

From my perspective there are MANY organizations that were complicit in the El Faro loss.

Start with the El Faro owner TOTE Services was a penny pinching company that knew the ship was in rotten shape. TOTE subscribed to two weather reporting service's, the two CHEAPEST that they could find. The weather information that the El Faro master was receiving was in fact over a day old when Captain Davidson received it.

Start with the USCG - United States Coast Guard Marine Inspection Office in Jacksonville, FL. USCG kept giving TOTE Services, the El Faro owner "voyage waivers" to keep operating when the USCG knew that the El Faro was in deplorable condition. In fact the USCG had planned to require the El Faro receive a way overdue overhaul, to correct some 63 deficiencies, planned for the year AFTER she sank.

The crew included five Polish individuals that were a riding repair crew trying while underway to correct some of those deficiencies. Are you aware that El Faro met her sister ship SS EL YUNQUE about half way between Jacksonville and San Juan? SS EL YUNQUE was sailing northbound and the two vessels passed each other within sight of each other and exchanged pleasantries via VHF radio when they passed. The SS EL YUNQUE built in 1976 was one year newer than El Faro built in 1975.

It is so easy after the fact for people safely ashore in their armchairs to criticize the now dead El Faro master. Captain Davidson was quoted in the press some years before the final voyage as saying "Hurricanes Are Us".

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Yes Greg. Many, many factors which, when added up, made the loss of 36 souls almost inevitable. My thought as a seafarer is, "There, but for the grace of God, went I........".

My first hurricane was during a transit of the GoM. Arriving safe to Houston, I could not beleive the amount of smashed containers for'd, and we were quite a big vessel. It would be hard for an "armchair sailor" to imagine the tremendous forces put on a vessel under such conditions.

RIP crew of El Faro.

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The transcript of the bridge voice recorder puts a chill down your spine. Recommended reading. It is on the web.
The transcript of the voice recorder is used as a major part of the book.

The tragedy was as a result of numerous agencies, and people.
What struck me in the book, was the threat by Totes legal team to the lead investigator to withdraw some comments he made.
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Found this one straight away:

The Investigation of the Sinking of US Cargo Vessel El Faro

Pity I cant embed the video.

https://youtu.be/66bvIgfHwYU - The Investigation of the Sinking of US Cargo Vessel El Faro

https://youtu.be/AmqsKKtE4-I - Sinking of US Cargo Vessel SS El Faro

https://youtu.be/OjCOqvakIn8 - all hands survived Cat.5 hurricane Irma, in and out of the eye, in Nov.1932
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The transcript of the voice recorder is used as a major part of the book.
And that's the best part of the book.
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