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Old 26th February 2019, 21:04
Lgrogan Lgrogan is offline
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Hi

I have discovered that my great great grandfather was on board the SS Stokesley in 1884 in Burntisland Scotland. He at this time had fallen from the ship when it was docked but not seriously injured going by newspaper reports.

I know nothing about ships and going by what I have found there are 2 ships by this name but this is the earlier one. Is there any way of finding out the history of this ship as would like to try and track down what happened to my GG grandfather.

Any help or advice appreciated.
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Old 26th February 2019, 21:39
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Hi

I have discovered that my great great grandfather was on board the SS Stokesley in 1884 in Burntisland Scotland. He at this time had fallen from the ship when it was docked but not seriously injured going by newspaper reports.

I know nothing about ships and going by what I have found there are 2 ships by this name but this is the earlier one. Is there any way of finding out the history of this ship as would like to try and track down what happened to my GG grandfather.

Any help or advice appreciated.
hello,i,m from burntisland,some members are good at this sort of thing,sure you will get some great help,best of luck.
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Old 26th February 2019, 21:42
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Thank you :-) I'm just up the road in Perth. Hopefully someone can lead me in the right direction
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Old 26th February 2019, 23:04
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Hello Lgrogan, Welcome to the forum. Could you tell us your gt,gt,grandfathers full name, place and dob please. Thank you
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Old 27th February 2019, 12:30
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Hello,

The 1884 logbooks and crew agreements of STOKESLEY, official number 87246, seem to have been lost or destroyed. These documents may have given an account of the incident your Gt Gt Grandfather was involved in.
I think the information you have gleaned from newspapers will be as good as it gets.
A long shot. Her 1885 C/As and LB's seem intact and can be obtained from here.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ils/r/C2478814
He may have still been on board.
No Merchant Navy central personal records were kept between 1857 and 1913. records for the period of the first world war, have been destroyed.
Some information about the ship. Be sure to explore the links.

http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vess...&submit=search

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Old 28th February 2019, 19:03
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Hello Lgrogan, Welcome to the forum. Could you tell us your gt,gt,grandfathers full name, place and dob please. Thank you

Hi

His name is Thomas Grogan, I don't have an exact date of birth just 1844 in Ireland but he lived in Dundee from around 1850. I did find another article that he was severely injured when he fell of the ship in BurntIsland on 1st January 1884 but unable to find any further information from this.

Thank you

Lorna
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Old 28th February 2019, 19:04
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Hello,

The 1884 logbooks and crew agreements of STOKESLEY, official number 87246, seem to have been lost or destroyed. These documents may have given an account of the incident your Gt Gt Grandfather was involved in.
I think the information you have gleaned from newspapers will be as good as it gets.
A long shot. Her 1885 C/As and LB's seem intact and can be obtained from here.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ils/r/C2478814
He may have still been on board.
No Merchant Navy central personal records were kept between 1857 and 1913. records for the period of the first world war, have been destroyed.
Some information about the ship. Be sure to explore the links.

http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vess...&submit=search

regards
Roger
Thank you so much I will look into this further.

Much appreciated

Lorna
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Old 28th February 2019, 23:57
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My Mother was born in Burntisland and I have visited the place a couple of times. I live in Australia and I don't know much about it's shipping history except it was used during WW2 for ship building and repairs. Or was it? My Grand Father worked at the Aluminium smelter. Thanks for the nostalgic thoughts!!
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Old 1st March 2019, 02:13
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Lorna, Have you tried Ancestry.com. There are several Thomas Grogans mentioned there, with one looking promising (for a starting point anyway)

1851 Scotland Census.
Thomas Grogan aged 12, Born Ireland, address 137 Williamsons Land Dundee. Father Thomas Grogan, Mother Jean Grogan.

I wish you all the best in your search.
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Old 1st March 2019, 23:41
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Hi

His name is Thomas Grogan, I don't have an exact date of birth just 1844 in Ireland but he lived in Dundee from around 1850. I did find another article that he was severely injured when he fell of the ship in BurntIsland on 1st January 1884 but unable to find any further information from this.

Thank you

Lorna
Thank you Lorna, may have been pipped to the post by OzBoz, but will have a wee look
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Old 9th March 2019, 06:27
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Hi L. GROGAN,
I note from that there are four references to a Thomas GROGAN born in Ireland about 1844 including:-
a) 1851 England Census
Occupation: Dock Worker
Residence: 73 Athol Street, Liverpool, Lancashire
b) 1880 US Census
Occupation: Miner
Residence: Archbald, Lackawanna, Pensylvania
c) 1881 England Census
Residence: Huntingdonshire
d) 1881 Wales Census
Occupation: Farm Worker
Residence: Plassey Street, Eyton, Royton, Denbigshire
I am unsure if Thomas GROGAN is the same person in all four cases, however if you think one or more may be your Great-Great-Grandfather you may want to track down the applicable Census details.
I hope that this has been of some help.
Kind regards,
Jon. D
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