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Old 12th January 2011, 09:52
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Really nobody can help?

Hello, I still can not find any biography of Sir William Reed. Really nothing and I can simply understand that such a great naval architect is fully forgotten. Maybe any ideas?

I was trying to trace a OBE files - but I have no access. I know only that every person who received OBE must have a special file with all data as a basement to receive any nomination for OBE.

Who can help me in UK with that story? We really intend do describe that man on our www and take him on open air from dark archives and library's shelfs.

Many thanks in advance Rafal
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Hello,

I asked RINA several times too, but they can not find anything about him too. Who can help us?

Many thanks in advance, Rafal
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A very brief account of his funeral from JB Smithson

Hello Rafal,

I e-mailed you a few days ago but no reply. I gave you some information on Mr Reed that I got from a census and I just came across this bit in my grandfathers journals (full of information about ship engineering at that time) -

08.10.48 I attended the funeral of Mr W. Reed director of S.D.Co. at Bellingham, about 17 miles from Hexham.
A number of the Works taken by car. Lunch at `The George’ Chollerford, which is 12 miles this side of Bellingham. Our car suffered a puncture at Sedgefield which delayed us so much that we had to take our lunch after the funeral. It was a fine day.
I think Mr Reed is the last of the old school at S.D.. Forceful, individualistic, a little selfish, domineering, energetic and a driver. This type has had much to do in building up the various industries of the country. Bellingham - a quiet Northumbrian village on the N. Tyne. It reminded me of the burial place of Lloyd George at Crittieth.


Not great information but it's something! There's a few other mentions of him through the journal but nothing substantial.

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Hello Peter,

I am sorry but I did not received your message. It is not anybody fault - my mailbox was overloaded by last 2 weeks and in some cases my server was rejecting a new e-mails. You can now resent your message and it will come to me without any problems. I am using three e-mail boxes: [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected].

Thank you very much for this story about Mr. Reed funeral. What is sad - now I know whew is his grave.

I can not understand why I can not find any other data. He was quite famous man that time. So many achievements, so many successful things, OBE and many other brave things.

I do not have an access to any archives in UK concerning Sir William Reed. So any articles, any data more than welcome.

Anyway when I will be next time in UK than I will try to visit that cemetery to find his grave.

Many thanks for any other news.

All our archives you can find just here:

http://www.magemar.com.pl/cms.php?lid=en&gid=36054

By the way: JB Smithson is your grandfather, yes?

Best greeting

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PS. Please try to find more in his archives ...
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Census record?

Hello,

Yes JB Smithson is my grandfather. He worked on the same ships you mention that William Reed worked on. JB Smithson was a marine engineer and I believe William Reed was a company director.

I could not retrieve my sent e-mail as I used a form on the website but I managed to find the census record that I think relates to William Reed. Does this match what you know -


Name: William Reed
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: North Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Saltburn by the Sea
County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding
Country: England
Street Address: Sundon Windsor Road Saltburn By Sea
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Manager Ship Building

He had one child at that time. I did another search to see if he appeared on anyones family trees at ancestry.co.uk but I couldn't see anyone. That's a shame as it's about the only way to find any living descendant that I can think of.

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Dear Peter,

GREAT THANKS. You are the first one ever who given me any such detailed info about Sir William.

Married? One child? Strange ... Till now everybody was informing me that he died alone and no relatives found.

So it is changing completely our opinion about him.

Sorry to say - till now I did not even know his date of born.

Now I see - I must repair our contact form which is on our www. It doesn't work!!! Strange but on Monday I will check what is going on with it.

Yes ... it will be nice to find his family. Today it is a chance to find only his third or even forth generation.

My intention is to find as much as possible about him and memorise him on www.bembridge.pl. Anyway as far as I see our page will be only one dedicated to this great person.

Still can not believe that such a personality is lost in the history without any data.

Best greeting

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PS. I am more than grateful for your kind and big help.
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Hi,

It's possible his daughter died young or that I happen to have hit on a very similar sounding record that isn't him - it happens sometimes when you're looking at family trees.

Ironically you may find out more in 10 years when the 1921 census is released - i.e. it gets easier to research this period as time goes on! Strange isn't it.

Peter.

P.S. The 1911 census only just came out (they release them after 100 years) and you have to pay to get access to it so not that surprising nobody found it for you before.

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Old 18th January 2012, 14:34
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I've found confirmation that he did have a daughter -

As the vessel left the ways, the christening ceremony was gracefully performed by Miss Katherine Reed,
daughter of Mr. William Reed, O.B.E., Director and General Manager of the South Bank establishment of Smith's
Dock Company Limited."

From:
http://www.lakehuronlore.com/PDF/New...ber%202005.pdf
Retrieved 18 Jan 2012

It might be worth contacting the owner of that website to see if he can put you in touch with the person he mentions -

"From the pages of the May and December, 1923 issues of the Smith's Dock Monthly, the illustrated social
magazine for the company's workers and staff, kindly sent to me by John H. Proud of Middlesbrough, Teeside
(England)"

If you sign up for a free account at www.ancestry.co.uk and tell me your user name, you can see what I've found out about his family. (It's interesting for me to do this as I'm new to that website!).

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Hello Peter,

Great Job. Thanks a lot. It is mean that Sir William had a daughter - she could be 20-30 years old in 1923. In my filling closer to 20 like 30. But even looking at the most positive younger age she is not living today for sure. When William had a funeral he could have grand children. Today there is a chance to find only his grandchildren being very old or grand grand children.

But Miss Katherine Reed could stay Miss to the end of her life. And than my theory is wrong.

Anyway it is sure now that there was a second generations for Reed family. So chances to find any documents remaining after Sir William are bigger.

I was trying to register on www.ancestry.co.uk but they are asking for card details and other ones. I had a bad experience with card and free trials. Later on there is no chance to stop to charge your card. If you will find anything interesting please publish here or my e-mail is in your disposal too: [email protected]

I will write e-mail to the editor of that web page where you find that article.

Wow... we are closer and closer.

I have friends in teeside archives. I will try over there too.

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Hi,

I've sent you an invite to ancestry.co.uk that might make it easier. There's a free account and then there's a 14 day free trial that gives you access to their historical records that requires credit card - you should not have to do that. The purely free account will let you look at trees.

You'll see in the tree that Kathrine had 2 cousins - perhaps their children are still alive. Though they might be hard/impossible to find. Once you get past 1911, the census data is not available so it's hard to find anything. They were all born 1908 to 1910. So that might be as far as we can get with the site.

If you can't get logged on I'll have to find a way to send you the tree another way.

Regards.

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Hello Peter,

Great thanks for a tree.

I am today at home so I have a time to study three. It was built by a data coming from Church registers of baptised children. Looks that there is nobody active on that web page from Reed family.

I see that brother of William - Thomas was more active in his family building. So one brother was building a vessels and another family. So it looks that most probably Thomas relatives can still exist.

One day we will find more. Lets continue. Many thanks Rafal
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Some news

Recently we bought on e-bay a nice Smith's Dock Journal - April 1924. It is now the oldest SD Journal what we have.

We have already a small collection - you can find April 1924 just here as a first Journal:

http://www.bembridge.pl/cms.php?pid=299

There are many nice pictures for everyone who likes an old shipbuilding industry.

But what is nice we found William Reed over there too:

1. cover
2. nice advertisement of Smith's Dock
3-4. present jobs in the shipyard
5. Board of Directors valid in 1924 and you can see Sir William Reed too.

To be continued ...
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Some news - second part

6 - so it is a third picture of Sir William Reed what we have and really the "youngest" one. I guess he is here approx 47 years old. Anyway this is the best picture what we have now.
7 - Smith's Dock Co. Ltd in 1924
8 - Full list of all docks
9 - 10 - the same place today - thanks to Google Earth.

I will keep you informed if I will find something new.

Greeting Rafal
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There is still a fair amount of activity at Smith's Dock mainly to do with offshore work,one of the dock's is used to test remote submarine's.
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Yes, it is true. I was visiting that place two years ago. But we could not visit a previous building of Director's offices and a place where our Bembridge was born. We could not received any permission to go inside.

One day I will publish all pictures.

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Another child of Sir William Reed - part I

Hello,

Let me show to all of you how we build up a beautiful model of Flower Class Corvette - he was designed and build just after Bembridge. Bembridge was a prototype of a new class of corvettes but finally she was to modern and to expensive to build in nice number. All her features return later on to Castle and River class corvettes. What is very interesting a name "Corvette" for a whole class of escort vessels were given by Winston Churchill.

Model was build by Andy - so our Andrzej Koperek. He spent hundreds of hours during last two years and now our museum has a beautiful model of Flower Class Corvette. He is the most patient guy in our company.

Lets start from his hull...

Tbc ...
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I agree with you - you must be crazy ...
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