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Old 8th April 2017, 17:30
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BRITISH RENOWN scrapping voyage 1994 video

Just found this on Youtube which may be of interest to those who sailed in the R boats.
Watching the video it looks like the R class had steam windlasses, something I'd completely forgotten (too many Orangeboom perhaps).

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One of the saddest video's I've seen, but I guess most ships go that way. I was on the Br Resource.
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That was my last ship with BP signed of September 83 and took voluntery redundancy.
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I took the original British Renown to the Tail 'o' Bank for scrapping in July 1954. after a voyage from Swansea to Fao and back.
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How long afterwards did the rest of the Class last?
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How long afterwards did the rest of the Class last?
Good bit actually, the other 4 all had undergone very substantial upgrade programs in the previous 3 years (I was there for 3) , the renown was rightly or wrongly considered to be the worst of the 5 and was to be the last one to be upgraded - the previous 3 had cost an absolutely bloody fortune..........

And before anyone says anything , the re- engined resource was probably the worst , but also the most efficient and the Respect was not the same class
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Good bit actually, the other 4 all had undergone very substantial upgrade programs in the previous 3 years (I was there for 3) , the renown was rightly or wrongly considered to be the worst of the 5 and was to be the last one to be upgraded - the previous 3 had cost an absolutely bloody fortune..........

And before anyone says anything , the re- engined resource was probably the worst , but also the most efficient and the Respect was not the same class
When you write upgrade S.M. what did that entail and who carried out the upgrades?
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When you write upgrade S.M. what did that entail and who carried out the upgrades?
They were carried out between keppel Tuas and sembewang Singapore as part of their 3 special dockings

Large amounts of structural steel replacement
Condenser retubing and sleeving
Radar tank gauging systems fitted
Full overhaul of all pneumatic control systems
Upgrade of alarm annunciation
Boiler retubing (complete rebuilding of one on the Reliance)
Economiser replacement
Complete winch and windlass overhaul
Complete COW upgrade
There was loads more, these were sizeable jobs , at least two months in dock
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Thanks for the info S.M.
Used to enjoy O/H the old style Steam Winches which they apparently had, on a nice day of course.
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Didn't all tankers have steam winches? To do with safety, no electrical sparks & no oil spills with steam windlass and winches etc. Also it's very hard to break a steam winch, when the weight on them gets too much, they just stop.
Also, why so many upgrades on these ships? Were they not fit for purpose when built? If not who paid for the upgrades? The Builders? BP?
It all must have been pretty drastic to have these upgrades done on comparatively new ships, especially a re engine job on the Resource.
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Anybody know who the run crew were ?
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They were carried out between keppel Tuas and sembewang Singapore as part of their 3 special dockings

Large amounts of structural steel replacement
Condenser retubing and sleeving
Radar tank gauging systems fitted
Full overhaul of all pneumatic control systems
Upgrade of alarm annunciation
Boiler retubing (complete rebuilding of one on the Reliance)
Economiser replacement
Complete winch and windlass overhaul
Complete COW upgrade
There was loads more, these were sizeable jobs , at least two months in dock
That is interesting, all that when the two I sailed on were most reliable ships, prior to 86 of course, what year were the upgrades?

We went into Dubai to have a cracked section of keel replaced, probably not the right terminology, but tanks and steelwork are not my scene, also aware that pumproom pipework might have been on its way out from what I saw, and Steve H mentioned in a previous thread.

Pneumatic control systems, I assume you are talking boiler controls.

Alarm annunciation, guess it was a bit dated.

All that and two months in Singapore drydock, how terrible.

Must say that I found it a little sad wandering around the Trident as a dead ship in Brunei, after spending three happy and reasonably stress free years sailing on her.

The office, as I remember it.
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"Were they not fit for purpose when built? If not who paid for the upgrades"?

For me they were quite possibly the most reliable ships that BP had in those days, in one case not requiring drydocking/repair port for 5 years from the builders, and certainly better than the P class.
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Watching the video it looks like the R class had steam windlasses, something I'd completely forgotten (too many Orangeboom perhaps).
Come now Jim, I'm sure on this very vessel a very famous electrician on his first trip with the company from general cargo claimed his absence on watch being due to him ' meggering the windlasses'
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Were they not fit for purpose when built? If not who paid for the upgrades?

For me they were quite possibly the most reliable ships that BP had in those days, in one case not requiring drydocking/repair port for 5 years from the builders, and certainly better than the P class.
They were fine - just getting a bit tired, so bp paid for them to be upgraded/
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Didn't all tankers have steam winches? To do with safety, no electrical sparks & no oil spills with steam windlass and winches etc. Also it's very hard to break a steam winch, when the weight on them gets too much, they just stop.
Also, why so many upgrades on these ships? Were they not fit for purpose when built? If not who paid for the upgrades? The Builders? BP?
It all must have been pretty drastic to have these upgrades done on comparatively new ships, especially a re engine job on the Resource.
Most tankers from the 70s onwards had hydraulic winches.
The R boats appeared only a few years after the oil crisis and so a few had a very limited trading life prior to being laid up in Brunei, at least one (Resource I think) went straight from the builders to layup and stayed there for the best part of a decade before she was then towed back to the builders to be re-engined.
By the time major upgrades came along they were already hard worked ships and halfway through their design life. From what I remember they were for a time about the only ships in the BP fleet that consistently made them money.
The final four lasted until 1999-2000 whereupon they were all scrapped having lasted 25 years under one owner - something very rare indeed.
There were a few more R boats beyond the 7 in the British fleet - the French arm of BP had a few as did (I think) the Iranians. I'm pretty sure I saw one of those ships in Fujairah in the mid 2000s by which point it must have been 30 years old.
They were quite hard work (Resource was a special case) towards the end but still had the luxury of large crews and so tended to be quite sociable ships.


(N.B.The 5 directly owned BP ships were RANGER/RELIANCE/RENOWN/RESOLUTION/RESOURCE plus NORNESS/TRIDENT which were charted from P&O. RESPECT came from a different Japanese yard and was substantially different.
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That's a grim looking beach where they're cutting up the ships. Reminds me of that pit full of Orcs in the Lord of the Rings films.
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Come now Jim, I'm sure on this very vessel a very famous electrician on his first trip with the company from general cargo claimed his absence on watch being due to him ' meggering the windlasses'
Leckies, bless em...
Obviously too much booze/trauma at the time blocked that memory out!
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Most tankers from the 70s onwards had hydraulic winches.
The R boats appeared only a few years after the oil crisis and so a few had a very limited trading life prior to being laid up in Brunei, at least one (Resource I think) went straight from the builders to layup and stayed there for the best part of a decade before she was then towed back to the builders to be re-engined.
By the time major upgrades came along they were already hard worked ships and halfway through their design life. From what I remember they were for a time about the only ships in the BP fleet that consistently made them money.
The final four lasted until 1999-2000 whereupon they were all scrapped having lasted 25 years under one owner - something very rare indeed.
There were a few more R boats beyond the 7 in the British fleet - the French arm of BP had a few as did (I think) the Iranians. I'm pretty sure I saw one of those ships in Fujairah in the mid 2000s by which point it must have been 30 years old.
They were quite hard work (Resource was a special case) towards the end but still had the luxury of large crews and so tended to be quite sociable ships.


(N.B.The 5 directly owned BP ships were RANGER/RELIANCE/RENOWN/RESOLUTION/RESOURCE plus NORNESS/TRIDENT which were charted from P&O. RESPECT came from a different Japanese yard and was substantially different.
Certainly the Resource went directly to lay up, I was on her. I didn't realise that she stayed laid up for nearly a decade though. No wonder she was upgraded. I was hoping to get flown back to Japan to pick up another one from Brunei Bay. Unfortunately many of the crew got flown home instead.
All of the tankers I was on, including the river class had steam machinery on deck, except for the cranes.
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As has been said the Resource did indeed go straight into lay up late75 early 76 and was re engined as a motorship in 82.
I sailed on the Renown from August 79 until end of November 79.
Sailed straight from Rotterdam to Lisnave drydock and paid off Lyme bay.
Great ship and crew and has been said a very reliable class, ran like a sewing machine!
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Just watched the video, a very sad end for a former ship of mine.
Having said that, all of my ships would have gone in similar fashion.
There is one survivor however, the Iolair still working in the Gulf of Mexico after 35 years or more.
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Just watched the video, a very sad end for a former ship of mine.
Having said that, all of my ships would have gone in similar fashion.
There is one survivor however, the Iolair still working in the Gulf of Mexico after 35 years or more.
,And to think I turned the Iolair down in 82.......
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I find the fact that the Iolair is still going after 35years, somewhat of a miracle ! I was on it when she was 2 years old and it was a nightmare at times then
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