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Old 24th March 2020, 15:24
sailorgirl sailorgirl is offline
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Mid 19th century immigrant ships

I am a new member and am not familiar with ships so please forgive my ignorance. I am doing a historical research on a group of german immigrants who came to America in 1864 on the "segelschiff" sailing ship Neckar (the first of a series of ships with the same name).
The ship left Hambourg, Germany around May14th and arrived in Quebec City, Canada around June 28th.

The ship was built in 1858 in the Dreyer shipyard in Neuhof, Germany and had a tonnage of 905 BRT.

I have a few questions:

1. What would the ship have looked like? Did it only have sails or was it also powered by steam engines? Would it have had 2 or 3 masts?

2. I have searched the internet for hours and cannot find an illustration of the Neckar. An illustration of a similar ship could do, but where could I find it?

Thank you in advance for your help!
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Old 24th March 2020, 16:24
wightspirit wightspirit is offline  
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As a start, go here: https://www.digishelf.de/objekt/54962810X36/1/
which is similar to Lloyd's Register of Shipping (the vessel is not listed in Lloyd's, but it is in the Bureau Veritas, above). It's in French. You'll find the Neckar on page 622, but for an explanation of the abbreviations, read from page 47 onwards. It does not look like she was steam powered, so in all likelihood she was a 3 masted barque. Go here to see a similar ship of the period: https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?4696

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Old 24th March 2020, 16:42
stein stein is online now  
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That ship was a sailing ship, and fully rigged, picture here: https://digitaltmuseum.no/021025966722/bilde Sad there should be such heavy blotches on the painting as the picture is free to reproduce: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en
And there is another copy here, of even lesss quality: https://www.sjohistorie.no/no/skip/20143/
Since she originally belonged to the Hamburg Amerika Line I thought I might find a better picture if I could find my first volune of Herbert Bischoff's work on that company.... but no "leider ist von der fruhen Hapag seglern kein Foto bekannt". There were some rough paintings, but none of the

Here are some other ships from the same yard: http://www.alt-wilhelmsburg.de/dreyer01.htm The Aline from 1864 probably the nearest in likeness.

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Old 25th March 2020, 15:25
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Mid 19th century immigrant ships

Thank you so much for the 2 replies I received so far! You have provided some very useful iinformation and it is greatly appreciated. If anyone else wants to contribute, the information will be put to good use.
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