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Name of a certain part of the ship: "front superstructure"or ... what?

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Old 29th July 2014, 18:04
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Name of a certain part of the ship: "front superstructure"or ... what?

Hi all,
I'm are already here with a small curiosity, and I ask the help of a nautical expert. Take, for example, the cruise ship in this photo:

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...88-d7ss4na.jpg

What is the name of the "frontal part" highlighted ? (the wall with all big porthole that extends from the upper deck to the command bridge).
I think his name is "frontal superstructure", but I'm not sure because I've listened "forecastle" or "bow forecastel" (but I knew that "forecastle" is the "flat area" at the bow of a ship...)


Thank you so much for the help!
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Old 29th July 2014, 18:21
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I just call it the 'ugly part'... of Norwegian Breakdown or whatever she is called.


But if I am trying to be helpful.... I would call it the 'fore end' as in 'Forward End of the Superstructure.' Other end as in 'aft end' as in 'Afterward End of Superstructure'

Just thinking... have also heard as 'Fore Part' ...... "Forward Part of Superstructure' or might even 'Bridge Front'.


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Old 29th July 2014, 19:12
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"Fore-Part" would have my vote.

But how could anybody paint a ship so frivolously?
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"Fore-Part" would have my vote.

But how could anybody paint a ship so frivolously?
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I just call it the 'ugly part'... of Norwegian Breakdown or whatever she is called.


But if I am trying to be helpful.... I would call it the 'fore end' as in 'Forward End of the Superstructure.' Other end as in 'aft end' as in 'Afterward End of Superstructure'

Just thinking... have also heard as 'Fore Part' ...... "Forward Part of Superstructure' or might even 'Bridge Front'.


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In short, as one wishes .... hihihihihih usually in marine any thing have his exactly name. Strange that no one give an exactly name to this area!
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Old 29th July 2014, 19:35
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Fwd Bhd accomodation block.
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Old 29th July 2014, 19:36
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Always called the fore part when I was at sea and when I worked in shipyards
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Old 29th July 2014, 20:05
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Forecastle upper bulkhead?
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Old 29th July 2014, 20:09
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According to ”Practial Shipbuilding Volume IIIA,” Haarlem 1953 page 309, the superstructures may comprise forecastle bridge and poop. On a three-island ship at least, the front of the middle structure is therefore the bridge-house-front in all its height. Which accords with the Norwegian terminology as I remember it. The word bridge I believe originating in a bridge between the covers of the wheels in a sidewheeler where the skipper gave directions to the helmsman aft.

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Bridge Front......

Surely the front of the superstructure is called the "bridge front"?
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I don't recollect it being called anything other than "bridge front"
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If you were asked to paint the fore part you would scratch your head in bewilderment.If you were asked to paint the Fwd Bhd accomodation block you would say ''what?,''however if asked to paint the bridge front you would be straight on the job.
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If you were asked to paint the fore part you would scratch your head in bewilderment.If you were asked to paint the Fwd Bhd accomodation block you would say ''what?,''however if asked to paint the bridge front you would be straight on the job.
That's exactly the definition I was going to put but you beat me to it.
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I don't recollect it being called anything other than "bridge front"
Ditto from me !
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Yep, fully agree.
"Bridge front"
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Bridge front in my book.
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And if you have two midship structures – what do you call the second one, and its front?
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The other one !
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never heard it called anything but fore part of the bridge. regards frank.
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Old 30th July 2014, 08:24
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The fore-part of the after mid-ships accommodation.
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Bridge front.

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"Fore End" in my book. It's more than just the Bridge front, or front of the bridge. Or the "Sticky up fronty bit with holes in it thingy" Or the "Accommodation fore end"
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Obviously a deck forum but I though I would add my ten penith worth. Control/Sticks or Camshaft side,Known as the front of the engine(never port side),Exhaust side Back of the engine(never stbd. side) and the end's, fwd end and flywheel end.
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His name is Peter, and I'm a bit surprised to see he is still around doing the same thing as in the sixties. He was a super earner in posters and design for just about everything then, in a children's colouring book kind of style with much stars and moons. Interesting to see that Stephen Card doesn't like him... or not as cruise ship decorator at least.

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If you were asked to paint the fore part you would scratch your head in bewilderment.If you were asked to paint the Fwd Bhd accomodation block you would say ''what?,''however if asked to paint the bridge front you would be straight on the job.
Not on any ship I was on.
The bridge front was just the bridge front and didnt include the rest of that structure down to the main deck.
If I scratched my head in bewiderment at being asked to paint the fore part, I would have been treated as a congenital idiot, or a skiver.
If asked to paint the bridge front, I would assume it was to be varnished, because at that time most BF ships had wooden bridge fronts.
The last Fore Part I painted was on Cunard's Ivernia, in New York in 1964, and it took four of us two days.
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