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Old 25th January 2007, 00:36
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Hello everyone , can anybody help me ? I am looking for a photo of a Hull tug called " MERCHANTMAN" . I know of its existance in the 1950s , but I would really like a photo of her .
Many thanks..............John
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Old 25th January 2007, 01:52
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try the gallery under tugs sure it's there?
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Old 25th January 2007, 02:37
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Sorry John i have searched and can't find it either? surely some one out there can help, Rudd or Thames phill maybe?
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Old 25th January 2007, 11:06
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Greetings, John.

Merchantman:
Built 1945 by Clelands Ltd., Wallsend
1945-46: Ministry of War Transport Empire Bess
1946: Bought by United Towing
1962: Slod to Soc.Arm. Napolitani, Naples as Tarentum
1981: Scrapped.

Is this the one?
The information is taken from "United Towing 1920-1990" compiled by Alan Ford.
There is a very small photograph in the book but it's probably subject to copyright so I can't post it on here. If you send me an email I'll scan it and send you a copy.

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Old 25th January 2007, 12:30
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Ahoy John,
Just check your PM box.
Btw there've been 2 MERCHANTMAN's, 1 as mentioned above by Kris, and another one from 1964 but didn't made it long, sunk in 1967 in the North Sea.
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Old 25th January 2007, 22:22
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Evening Lads , Thanks very much for all your replies , It was most helpful
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Old 25th January 2007, 23:49
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Ahoy John,
Thanks for the PM, glad being able to help.
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Old 7th February 2007, 04:55
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UK Navy Empire tug, Modified Englishman/Larch-class
Registered: LR47-48:10728 /LR50-51:68991 /LR56-57:69987 /LR60-61:71766
IMO 5352769 /(GBR)ON 169199 /(ITA)ON 915
593 GRT, 67 NRT, L43,64m(41,15), B10,09m, D4,566m(4,88)
(143.2'(137.1')x33.1'x15.1' or 143'2"(135'0")x33'1"x14'11.3/4"(16'0"))
1 scr, T3cyl by "George Clark (1938) Ltd" at Sunderland, oil fired, 223nhp-1275ihp

EMPIRE BESS
1945 -25/04: Launched by "Clelands (Successors) Ltd" at Wallsend (GBR) (YN 74)
1945 -26/07: completed for the UK MOT, mng "United Towing Co Ltd" at Hull (GBR)
1946 -08/05: Sold to "United Towing Co" at Hull (GBR) for £36,250, renamed MERCHANTMAN (Capt. W.V. Hopper-1951)
(GBR flag, regd Hull, ON 169199, c/s GFCW)
1962: To "Societa Rimorchiatori Napoletani" (ITA), renamed TARENTUM
(ITA flag, regd Naples, ON 915, c/s IMCA, 568 GRT,160 NRT)
1982: for demolition to "Palermo Salvatore e Cia" at Napoli (ITA)
1982 -28/05: breaking up commenced

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Old 7th March 2010, 00:01
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hull tugs

have built a model from original cochrain drawings of presto sister formaly empire sarah picture present in the hull maritime museum owned originly by ellermans nicnamed the parrot line sold to united towing and scrapped by them have stood on the bridge of salvageman when she was in hull she was big have a list somewhere of all the empire tugs wil try to find it cheers mike hull
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Old 7th March 2010, 10:52
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have built a model from original cochrain drawings of presto sister formaly empire sarah picture present in the hull maritime museum owned originly by ellermans nicnamed the parrot line sold to united towing and scrapped by them have stood on the bridge of salvageman when she was in hull she was big have a list somewhere of all the empire tugs wil try to find it cheers mike hull
PRESTO/EMPIRE SARA was of a different one of the eleven classes of Empire Tug being somewhat smaller.
You are correct that Ellerman's Wilson Line sold her to United Towing in 1968 along with their other tug FORTO. Both were scrapped within a short period.

Will e-mail you some info.

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Old 8th March 2010, 12:36
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Looking for flatty Thomsons TUG /FORTO

FORTO/PRESTO
Hi there, I am the grandson of Ernie Thompson (flatty) and would love to make my mothers wish of owning a photo of the tug which my grandfather worked on come true, apparently he was the skipper of her. His was FORTO which as far as I know was the sister tug of PRESTO / any info or help would be much appriciated, please send me a private message

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Old 8th March 2010, 15:07
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FORTO/PRESTO
Hi there, I am the grandson of Ernie Thompson (flatty) and would love to make my mothers wish of owning a photo of the tug which my grandfather worked on come true, apparently he was the skipper of her. His was FORTO which as far as I know was the sister tug of PRESTO / any info or help would be much appriciated, please send me a private message
PRESTO
O.N. 169307. 274g. 111'8" x 26'7" x 12'4½"
T.3-cyl. (15", 25" & 42" x 27") engine made by Amos & Smith Ltd., Hull. 850 IHP.
6.5.1943: Launched as EMPIRE SARA by Cochrane & Sons Ltd., Selby (Yard No. 1267) for the Ministry of War Transport. 10.8.1943: Completed, France, Fenwick Tyne & Wear Company Ltd., Newcastle, managers. 14.9.1944: The Alexandra Towing Company Ltd., Liverpool, appointed managers. 22.5.1946: Sold for £22,500 to Ellerman's Wilson Line Ltd., Hull, and renamed PRESTO. 13.3.1968: Purchased by the United Towing Company Ltd., Hull. After a short period of use, was laid up for disposal, wearing the United Towing Company Ltd's, funnel with Ellerman’s green hull. 15.6.1968: Arrived at Blyth for demolition by Hughes Bolckow Ltd.



FORTO
O.N. 167047. 180g. 4n 107'8" x 25'8" x 11.2 feet.
T.3-cyl. (15”, 24” & 40” x 27”) engine made by Amos & Smith Ltd., Hull. 106 NHP. 650 IHP.
1.1939: Completed by Cook, Welton & Gemmell Ltd., Beverley (Yard No. 649) for Ellerman's Wilson Line Ltd., Hull. 13.3.1968: Purchased by the United Towing Company Ltd., Hull. After a short period of use, was laid up for disposal, wearing the United Towing Company Ltd's, funnel, and Ellermans green hull. 15.6.1968: Arrived at Blyth for demolition by Hughes Bolckow Ltd.
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Old 9th March 2010, 12:55
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Hi my grandfather was Ernie Thompson (flatty) he was the skipper of FORTO sister to presto , and my mum still owns the original Bell and clock from her,


would love to see the model or a photo of it thx
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Old 19th March 2010, 18:23
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Hello everyone , can anybody help me ? I am looking for a photo of a Hull tug called " MERCHANTMAN" . I know of its existance in the 1950s , but I would really like a photo of her .
Many thanks..............John
its in the gallery ,photos ,merchantman ..
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Old 13th May 2010, 21:04
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I was with your grandad when he was with united towing on the krooman the one thing about your grandad he was great tug skipper unlike some and always laughing I also sailed with his two brothers on the smaller tugs
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Old 15th May 2010, 21:11
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Photos of Presto

Some photos of the Forto/Presto for you from my Dads collection.

Regards

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Old 15th May 2010, 23:17
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Off Alexandra Dock Hull, Stern tug looks like Autocrat, can anyone name the Wilson boat.
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Old 20th May 2010, 21:45
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I think it's Tinto

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Old 23rd May 2010, 20:59
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to big for TINTO it looks like DAGO/DOMINO class sam
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Old 1st June 2010, 22:35
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Hi my grandfather was Ernie Thompson (flatty) he was the skipper of FORTO sister to presto , and my mum still owns the original Bell and clock from her,


would love to see the model or a photo of it thx
I have a coloured picture of presto and an artists impression of photo and presto towing a merchant vessell into Hull the photo I will copy if it is any use to you I have several b.w pictures I have also built a model of presto and am currently refurbishing her and fitting radio control in her she is nearly 4 foot long photos can be arranged for you if you would wish Email me on [email protected]] sorry for the long time in replying to your thread but life has been busy I also know a gentleman who sailed on presto and may have known your grandad he searched a long time for the bell of presto but could not find it . all the best Mike.

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