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Old 27th January 2019, 08:26
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Hi Again Russ, can you give me a rough date when you and Keith sailed together, or when we were in Vancouver,,,,found Discharge book but nothing jumps out at me. Talking about redundancy , that lovely Alex D Duncan , he ripped me off on that one big style, was on Fort Nelson in Japan, when message arrived, mother serious ill, they got me off and I flew home, mum had stomach cancer, with months to live, whilst helping my father look after my mother, Duncan phoned me to ask how things were, not great at that time, and they needed a 2/E right away, told him that there’s no way I could go, as things were bad with mum, he said a well i’ll Take you off the books for now, 3 months later mum died , and decided to stay ashore as C. P. Were not going in the right direction, I was working out of Hong Kong, Mixed Manning, it was not until years later talking to various sea going pals that I discovered of the dedundancy packages, but never knew anything of it at the time, had more important things on my mind. Life moves on, worked a service engineer for a few years, loved the Job, then wife and family came along, them moved into the whisky production industry, for better money. All my very best for now, Bob
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Old 30th April 2019, 21:03
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Hello all from CP Ships past.. My name is Ian Annand, I am the son of Malcolm Annand, he was a chief engineer at CP Ships until he was made redundant circa 1986.. I think his last ship was Fort Toronto shortly after the Falklands War had ended, he also served on the GA Walker, Fort Colouge/Port Hawkesbury.. does anyone remember him please? He died from terminal cancer in November 1990, still much missed.. Best wishes, Ian.
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Old 7th May 2019, 12:00
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Hi Ian,
Unfortunately I don't remember your dad. I sailed with CP around the same time though, perhaps we just never crossed paths.
Sorry to hear about your dad's passing, and wish you all the luck in finding someone on here who may of known him.
It might be worth contacting Bob Evans, he has a much better memory than I,
anyway, good luck
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Old 18th May 2019, 02:07
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Malcolm Annand (Chief Engineer, CP Ships)

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Hello all from CP Ships past.. My name is Ian Annand, I am the son of Malcolm Annand, he was a chief engineer at CP Ships until he was made redundant circa 1986.. I think his last ship was Fort Toronto shortly after the Falklands War had ended, he also served on the GA Walker, Fort Colouge/Port Hawkesbury.. does anyone remember him please? He died from terminal cancer in November 1990, still much missed.. Best wishes, Ian.
Just to underpin Ian's comments above, Malcolm (my former father-in-law) joined the Fort Toronto in Port Stanley outer harbour in December 1982 and left in late May 1983. He was one of the best regarded CE's in CP and was very popular with his staff and the rest of the crew. I was serving in the Falklands at the time three anchorages up harbour on the mv Stena Inspector on Naval Party 2010 as a RN Marine Engineer Mechanic. Malcolm invited me over for a 48 hour stay over, which was immense fun and hugely drink filled. The Captain of FT was a real party beast (a Geordie as I remember) - cannot remember his name but sadly passed on a few years later, rumoured to have succumbed to the bottle and found dead in a hotel room. Any help you can give Ian to complete his story would be appreciated. Vic 'Slinger' Woods (WO2ET(ME) - still in the RN!)

The attached photo is him with my daughter Hannah in 1988, shortly before he fell ill.
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Old 29th May 2019, 19:58
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Hi Ian/Vic

I remember Malcolm very well and can only concur with Vic that he was well respected and liked onboard. I was the 5th Eng on the Fort Rouge during the latter stages of build and thereafter on its first trip from Sanoyasu in Japan in Dec 1980. He always seemed upbeat and approachable (even for a snotty nosed 5th) and, quite rare for a Chief (in my experience) , not afraid of being self-deprecating or being the source of humour. He got on very well with the Mate, Kenyan Elias and the story goes that at a formal dinner with the Japanese hosts pre-launch, Malcolm ate a table decoration (some flower I think Ken said) the Japanese looked aghast at the mistake, Malcolm never batted an eyelid, just said something like 'not bad' and carried on with something else! Some guy. I don't want give the impression that he was only a joker, he was extremely technically competent and one of the best man managers I met in my time at sea.
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Old 30th May 2019, 00:00
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Hi Ian/Vic

I remember Malcolm very well and can only concur with Vic that he was well respected and liked onboard. I was the 5th Eng on the Fort Rouge during the latter stages of build and thereafter on its first trip from Sanoyasu in Japan in Dec 1980. He always seemed upbeat and approachable (even for a snotty nosed 5th) and, quite rare for a Chief (in my experience) , not afraid of being self-deprecating or being the source of humour. He got on very well with the Mate, Kenyan Elias and the story goes that at a formal dinner with the Japanese hosts pre-launch, Malcolm ate a table decoration (some flower I think Ken said) the Japanese looked aghast at the mistake, Malcolm never batted an eyelid, just said something like 'not bad' and carried on with something else! Some guy. I don't want give the impression that he was only a joker, he was extremely technically competent and one of the best man managers I met in my time at sea.
Thanks very much for these kind comments regarding Malcolm. That does indeed sound a lot like him and his offbeat, irreverent and very seagoing humour. He always regaled to me he was 'one more gin an tonic away from joining the Royal Navy' as an ME Officer (he'd served as a reserve officer on HMS Jaguar and HMS Berwick) and in many ways pined for the RN, but loved his life as 'Chiefy' in the commercial fleets, missing it a lot when he finally hung up his spanner. He was a gifted soul, immensely knowledgeable and skilled as an engineer be it with huge, medium speed diesels powering bulk carriers or life in miniature at home building small scale steam locomotives or, as in the picture, a fantastic battery powered car for his grandkids. Great bloke, and sadly missed by all.
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Old 30th May 2019, 10:58
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Pic from that time

I had the original picture once but this was in CP News (copied from this thread)
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Old 30th May 2019, 12:06
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I had the original picture once but this was in CP News (copied from this thread)
Sjones - thanks so much for this. Do you have a larger .jpg of that pic to hand at all (or any other stories/pics of the man to share?)I have been in touch with my daughter and my ex-wife and they are both delighted at your memories and equally thankful.
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Old 30th May 2019, 12:10
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Hello all from CP Ships past.. My name is Ian Annand, I am the son of Malcolm Annand, he was a chief engineer at CP Ships until he was made redundant circa 1986.. I think his last ship was Fort Toronto shortly after the Falklands War had ended, he also served on the GA Walker, Fort Colouge/Port Hawkesbury.. does anyone remember him please? He died from terminal cancer in November 1990, still much missed.. Best wishes, Ian.
Hello Ian

I was in Fort Toronto in the FI from Feb to Jun 1983 with the Naval Comms Party 1750. I do remember your dad, a pleasant fellow and easy to get along with. Brian Sanderson was the Captain, he relieved Captain John Hume who was a very young Captain of some 28 years.They made me welcome onboard their ship. Sad to know your father has been taken from you so early in his life.

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Old 30th May 2019, 21:06
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Brian Sanderson was a great old man. He was on G A Walker on the Maracaibo run and in Norfolk drydocking. Never a dull moment.
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Old 31st May 2019, 11:23
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Sjones - thanks so much for this. Do you have a larger .jpg of that pic to hand at all (or any other stories/pics of the man to share?)I have been in touch with my daughter and my ex-wife and they are both delighted at your memories and equally thankful.
Unfortunately, I don't have the original pic. If you look at this thread I think you'll find a link to some files that include the 'Seanews' edition (Feb 81) that has the picture - its too big to attach here. Let me know if you can't find it and I'll try sharing it somehow if you want.


I'm sorry, I don't have any more Malcolm stuff, I left the merchant navy shortly after and I only sailed with him on that trip. He was one of the good guys.
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Old 28th June 2019, 14:47
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Hi all,
I'm ex CP engineer.
I started a cadetship in 74 (2 years in Plymouth, college of further education, year at sea, then final year at South Shields Marine and Tech college)

Spent next 4 years at sea, leaving as a 4th engineer (with 2nds ticket taken in Poplar, London) in '82 when the voluntary redundancy scheme came in. I was refused the redundancy which p***ed me off, and ended up leaving anyway.

My memory of the vessels I served on is crap (need to find discharge book) but definitely sailed on the G A Walker, I D Sinclair, Fort Kipp and pacific Logger to name a few, and the last ship was the Fort Providence, which I stood by the last few weeks of its build in the Hyundai shipyard, Pusan, Korea, and sailing on its maiden voyage.
Unfortunately I don't recognise any of the names that have been posted here, but that doesn't mean a lot, I have a rubbish memory for names.
One of the guys I do remember as I did my cadetship with him , is Keith Cheshire, originally from Gravesend in Kent. I know he stayed on after the redundancy scheme to sail as a second engineer.
I have a few photo's that I will try and add,
Hi Russ
Hugh Hutchinson (Sinclair, Voyager, Coleman, Edmonton, Coulonge, Trader, Quebec, Strathcona) here, we didn't sail together but we did share a final year at South Tyneside and a memorable First Aid at Sea course in Southampton. Glad to hear you're well and doing well, sorry about the marriage. You met my wife on the course (we were staying in a caravan) and I'm pleased to say we're still married after 42 years and have our own company specialising in moving older unemployed DWP customers closer to the job market.

Also glad to hear that Keith (ID Sinclair, Voyager) Cheshire is well and got to 2nd (I didn't!) he deserved it. Keith was my Best Man at my wedding. Give him my best if you ever catch up.

I also lost touch with the salty life once I left (1982) and went to build oil rigs in the Highlands. Amazing how the years fly by, like the ships we sailed on most of the rigs I worked on have already been scrapped!!

All the best
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Old 4th August 2019, 19:40
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Fort Victoria 1977

I have just stumbled upon this site whilst searching the web for pictures of ships I’ve sailed on. I see it isn’t very active now, but I hope somebody will see this.
The attached photo was attached by Bob Clay several years ago. I was delighted to recognise myself in it. I am Chris (Christina) Wales, one of the first trip deck cadets that joined the Fort Victoria in Holyhead in Sept 1977.
Anyway, I can name most of the people in this photo.
Left to right: Brenda Plumbley ( wife of Derek Plumbley, Second Engineer), Brian Paltridge RIP ( purser chief steward), Maddie Harris (deck cadet), Andy Sharpe ( 3/O, whose 21st it was!), Sue Paltridge ( wife of Brian), in front of her perched on table is me, Eddie Taylor (Deck Cadet), Ken Peach ( C/E), not entirely sure who the 4/E is but I think his name was John, Bill Johnston ( engineer cadet), seated is Ian Denham (Deck Cadet), Maggie Riches ( wife of Chris Riches) and I think it is Chris Riches (2/0).
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Old 4th August 2019, 19:52
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It was 1977. I was one of the female Deck Cadets. There were two female deck cadets, but no female engineer cadets.
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Old 4th August 2019, 19:54
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Old 4th August 2019, 20:16
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I got your message. Many thanks for that. Hard to believe all that was more than 40 years ago.

That was one of my favourite trips

I stuck with CP until 1986 then came ashore in various jobs and ended up at GCHQ.

Now retired and a professional idle bastard.

I don't get on here much, but it was very nice to hear from you. I've been in contact with Ian Denham, who has posts on here, but nobody else from CP.
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Old 5th August 2019, 10:26
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Hi Chris, nice to see a name I remember from CP, I think we sailed together on the Fort Hamilton in about 1984, you were 3/O and I was C/E Henry Robson with my wife Gloria.
I stayed with CP until made redundant in 88, remained at sea until 2014 when I retired.
Maddie Haris married Byron Gudgeon and joined the WA Mather in 83 I think, Byron relieved me in Fujaira and I signed off with John Simcox, that was his first trip master.
Tracey Edwards was another female cadet I sailed with once as cadet and once as 3/O.
There was another one who's name I forget who left and joined the police, she had married a 2/O and CP messed them about never getting on leave together.
Thanks for making my memory work
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Old 7th August 2019, 05:41
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Hey I got a question fellas! I was on a coaster the Blisworth to be exact around 1949/50, we were discharging in Depford creek,road stone from Newlyn If I remember correctly, when aboard bounces a couple of Canadains looking for work, both were AB's, they had an unhappy story to relate, they said all the Canadain crews had been "Fired" from all CP ships, and CP were signing on Brits under British articles, whose pay scale was far short of the Canadian pay scale, they said they were not asked to "resign"so were "on the beach" We did have a job for one of the guys a Newfie who stayed with us for quite a few trips. on sailing later that day there was about four "Beaver" boats tied up alongside at Tilbury.What was that all about? was it a strike by the Canucks that got them all Fired, or was it a company ploy to reduce costs
http://www.wfhathewaylabourexhibitce...-union-strike/
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Old 7th August 2019, 16:13
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In April 1949, the Canadian Seamens’ Union declared a strike against the shipping companies. The S.I. U. headed by Hal Banks, (a gangster brought up from New York) were hired instead of C.S.U. The strike had world-wide repercussions. London docks were affected, and the British Parliament met. Members of the C.S.U. were blacklisted and our merchant navy virtually destroyed. It was the time of McCarthyism in the States, and C.S.U. members were labeled “Commies.” The Canadian government and the R.C.M.P. were complicit. There is an excellent book about this by Jim Green:
Against the tide: The story of the Canadian Seamen's Union: Jim Green. i see by your link that you've already read the background on this matter.
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Old 7th August 2019, 16:19
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There were many communists in the labour movement, both in the UK and North America, using it for their own purposes. "The Communist Technique in Britain" by Bob Darke, a former communist details this.

Of course the shipowners used that for their own purposes: they'd rather have a crooked, bought union than a real one, and if the communists couldn't control a union they'd rather see it destroyed, as according to marxist dialectics "the worse things got, the better they got" and an effective non-communist union defused worker discontent and made "capitalism" more effective and prosperous.

And now we have F.O.C. and no one is better off; except the guys from the 2nd and 3rd worlds who got the jobs.

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Old 7th August 2019, 17:20
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chrisw13..was ken peach ch/eng,ex fyffes if so sailed with him many times' was with cp for 3 years as ch/stwd on walker,edmonton,mather,kipp,fraser Calgary.Eddie.
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Old 8th August 2019, 00:01
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I worked on the Princess of vancouver for a few months when I first immigrated to Canada, it was a ferry boat travelling from Vancouver to Nanaimo on Vancouver Island. That was in 1962.
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Old 8th August 2019, 00:08
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In April 1949, the Canadian Seamens’ Union declared a strike against the shipping companies. The S.I. U. headed by Hal Banks, (a gangster brought up from New York) were hired instead of C.S.U. The strike had world-wide repercussions. London docks were affected, and the British Parliament met. Members of the C.S.U. were blacklisted and our merchant navy virtually destroyed. It was the time of McCarthyism in the States, and C.S.U. members were labeled “Commies.” The Canadian government and the R.C.M.P. were complicit. There is an excellent book about this by Jim Green:
Against the tide: The story of the Canadian Seamen's Union: Jim Green. i see by your link that you've already read the background on this matter.
thanks for that, I know a bit about that but I will have to look for that book, Paddy McDonnell.
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Old 8th August 2019, 15:39
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Paddy, I see you live in Canada. You might try the public library for Jim Green's book. I know it's in the Vancouver Public Library.
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