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Old 14th March 2006, 12:31
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GUIPERS HI if up look on one of the sites on the web tugs for salei have seen the three of these tugs for sale in the last week or so it is the site that coes up at the top of the page annot tell you whicw one but it will not take long to findit.it shows you rigth round the tugs with vido cam and the numbers on the shell of the tugs sam
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Old 14th March 2006, 13:36
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GUIPERS HI if up look on one of the sites on the web tugs for salei have seen the three of these tugs for sale in the last week or so it is the site that coes up at the top of the page annot tell you whicw one but it will not take long to findit.it shows you rigth round the tugs with vido cam and the numbers on the shell of the tugs sam
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Thanks for the tip-off. I'm off for a search!
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Old 14th March 2006, 14:10
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HI GULPERS i am going to have a look round and see if i can find it and when i do i will let you have the site it is one
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Old 14th March 2006, 14:22
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HI RAY found it for you the site is called shipexo .com there are to tugs on that site of the rolliker type and one as a munber on it A366 sam
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Old 14th March 2006, 20:26
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HI RAY found it for you the site is called shipexo .com there are to tugs on that site of the rolliker type and one as a munber on it A366 sam
Sam,
Sorry I can't find your tug site.
The side numbers for the three sisterships are:
RMAS Roysterer (A361)
RMAS Rollicker (A502)
RMAS Robust (A366)
The site you have found evidently shows Robust and another of her sisters.
Can you try going back to your site sometime and carefully copy its address.
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Old 14th March 2006, 20:52
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Gulpers,

The address is www.shipexpro.com, select 'Tugs' from the left-hand menu and you will find the photo listed as file 1755, right down the bottom of the gallery of photos.

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Old 14th March 2006, 20:55
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Old 14th March 2006, 21:09
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Gulpers,

The address is www.shipexpro.com, select 'Tugs' from the left-hand menu and you will find the photo listed as file 1755, right down the bottom of the gallery of photos.

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Ron,
I've tried two PCs and I can't get that url to work.
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Old 15th March 2006, 16:43
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Acording to this .pdf file HERE Ocean Towing and Salvage went to the recievers in Feb 2000 (section 348 No. 15, or bottom of page 10 of 56).

Gulpers, not sure about date for Cambodian entry.
Ron, the link wont work for me either.
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Old 15th March 2006, 20:22
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HI RAY found it for you the site is called shipexo .com there are to tugs on that site of the rolliker type and one as a munber on it A366 sam
Guys,
I'm beginning to think that the two ships Sam refers to in the above posting are Robust and Roysterer.
That still leaves Rollicker and, so far, we are no further forward with her fate!
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Old 15th March 2006, 21:06
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http://shipexpo.com/sales/vessel_detail.asp?FileNo=2259
Could be Roysterer, I have a picture in a book of Roysterer with that emblem on her funnells, can't remember if other ones had that. Build year according to Mike Critchleys British Warships & Auxiliaries (1994-95) is 1972 not 1975. Looking again, I can't tell from those photos which one it is.

http://shipexpo.com/sales/vessel_detail.asp?FileNo=1755
This is Robust, you can just read the name on the photo, and the pennant number matches, taken at the West Jetty in the Great Harbour, Greenock. Also, in the book, Robust build year is 1974, not 1975.

Just noticed the funnell emblem on Robust also.
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Old 15th March 2006, 22:45
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Hendo,

You should be a Detective with Strathclyde Police! Good work!
I think you have confirmed that the two vessels for sale are Robust and Roysterer!
Your mission - should you chose to accept it is ........... what happened to Rollicker?
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Old 17th March 2006, 20:34
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Ok we reckon rolliker went to 'Iraqi interests'. I went back to the Worl register site and did an owner/operator search and got this.
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# Name Full name Country Port (City) Fleet Details
1 Al-Saleh ARM Abdul Rezzak Mohamed Al-Saleh Iraq Basrah 1 Details
2 Al Bahar Marine Al Bahar Marine Service Iraq Basrah 1 Details
3 Hadi BJ Bassam J Hadi Iraq Baghdad 1 Details
4 Iraq Govt Government of The Republic of Iraq Iraq Baghdad 84 Details
5 Iraq Govt Agriculture Government of The Republic of Iraq (Ministry of Agriculture & Agrarian Reform- State Fisheries Co) Iraq Baghdad 6 Details
6 Iraq Govt Trans & Comms Ports Government of The Republic of Iraq (Ministry of Transport and Communications General Co For Ports of Iraq) Iraq Basrah 1 Details
7 Iraq Govt Water Transport Government of The Republic of Iraq (State Enterprise for Water Transport) Iraq Baghdad 10 Details
8 Iraq Govt Ports Government of The Republic of Iraq (State Organisation of Iraqi Ports) Iraq Basrah 62 Details
9 Hussain Mohammed Hussain Mohammed Iraq Basrah 1 Details
10 Iraqi Oil Tankers Iraqi Oil Tankers Co Iraq Basrah 5 Details
can't gat any more details from that site unless I fork out 300+ for registration! That s why I have no more details of the Cambodian flagged Al Fahd.

Oh well, something to sniff around with anyhoo.
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Old 26th November 2006, 16:51
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I was an RFA Tug/RMAS Electrical Officer on these vessels, and during 1997, with Ken Butt, spent a few weeks in Portsmouth Dockyard getting her ready for service and generally instructing the New Zealand crew. This was when she was known as Joseph Brown.

I was informed of Joseph Brown's loss a few years later, but it could never be substantiated.
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I was the Electrical Officer of Roysterer for four years, with odd trips on Rollicker and Typhoon from 1972 to 1976. My daughter, incidentally, was conceived while I was Duty Officer one Sunday!

The R Class tugs were indeed reduced in length by some 30 feet - but on the drawing board. It was a popular cost-saving measure by the MoD, and was even applied to Newton in the same period.

The builder, Charles D. Holmes of Beverley, were not the best - after a few months we had an emergency drydocking, as wash frmo the port screw had cut through the plating above, and was flooding the void space below the steering flat. On investigation the scre to hull clearance was under half the normally agreed safe limit. Devonport Dockyard fitted doubling plates, which solved the problem. It was later found that the tailshafts were also off line.

The R Class were very lively indeed, as was shown when we went to sea in awful weather to test this scientifically. The roll recorder went off its scale at 45 degrees quite regularly, the 'specialist' who was carried to access the matter taking to his bed for the duration.

The post-trial decision was that the ship's staff 'over-estimated' the matter!

I would however, have great confidence in the R Class sea-keeping quality, having been beyond Spitzbergen island in winter (ice and high seas) three Cod War patrols (Bridge wing rails under water!) and lots of other high sea conditions - provided that there was plenty of fuel. The 420 tonnes of fuel was primarily expensive ballast, as if over 50% was used things became very violent. We once managed to get down to 25%, which was downright dangerous.

Sea sickness was not a problem - so long as one had plenty to eat - the real problem being fatigue, as sleep was impossible, and comfort unknown!

Roysterer was sold to a Nigerian company, Robust to the US/Caribbean, and Rollicker to New Zealand.

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Chaps,

Post the questioon on tugspotters - www.tugspotters.com - but you will have to join first. If anyone knows, someone there will!

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Hi, I was looking for information on the Roysterer and Rollicker today on Google and found this site. It was the Roysterer that went down in the Indian Ocean but I'm not sure what year. The Rollicker was scrapped in 2006, information on that I found on Sea Web.

My Grandad was Master of both Rollicker and Roysterer, the Roysterer being his last ship which he retired on in 1981. I can remember going onboard in Portland in around 1978 when I was 3. He was also Master of the Typhoon and Envoy and was out in Singapore on the Typhoon.

I have met a few people who sailed with him, and one Plymouth taxi driver who sailed with him (I think as Radio Officer or 2nd Mate) said that he was known as drag em under Dunkley as the Roysterer once had a tow overturn in the Bay of Biscay? Anyone know anything about this?
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R Class

You might like to know that the ROBUST is currently up for sale in Florida (can't recall the website) as a pleasure vessel or motor yacht! She has been completely cleared of all asbestos and is 'sound' by American standards. Given that the R class rolled on a wet tissue then I'm not sure I would buy it as a pleasure craft.
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Hi, As a kid back in the late 60s early 70s I remember seeing these tugs being dragged down the river Hull from Beverley, at the time they looked massive and they could only float them down on high tide so it took quite a few days to get them down the river for fitting out . Our house backed on to the river Hull so over the years saw quite a lot of shipping heading for the fitters yard.But the three tugs I will always remember.
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I was 2nd engineer on Rollicker at the Falklands in 1982 and the last Chief engineer on Roysterer and Robust. Good vessels but uncomforatble in bad weather.,
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Sam,
Sorry I can't find your tug site.
The side numbers for the three sisterships are:
RMAS Roysterer (A361)
RMAS Rollicker (A502)
RMAS Robust (A366)
The site you have found evidently shows Robust and another of her sisters.
Can you try going back to your site sometime and carefully copy its address.
Cheers and well done,
The side numbers you refer to are actually called pennant numbers.
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Admiralty Tugs Deep Sea

In the 60's or 70's I am not sure whether again it was on the tyne or on the humber: There where 3 new deep sea tugs built for the admiralty, and | wonder if they are still around.
RollicKer, Rollister and ??? Nmaes escape me precisely??? Buit at Clelands/ on the Tyne or at Hessle on the Humber.
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In the 60's or 70's I am not sure whether again it was on the tyne or on the humber: There where 3 new deep sea tugs built for the admiralty, and | wonder if they are still around.
RollicKer, Rollister and ??? Nmaes escape me precisely??? Buit at Clelands/ on the Tyne or at Hessle on the Humber.
C.D.Holmes,Beaverly.
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the last i heard of the r class was that one had sunk , one had been scrapped , and one was up for sale abroad.never sailed on them myself as there wasnt one based at rosyth.one was based on the west coast of scotland and the other two were down south.they were not the most comfortable vessels in rough seas apparently.i always thought they looked massive but originaly they were supposed to be longer than they were.think the original design was chopped by a good few metres.G.R.T.-1036 tons.Dimensions-54m x 12m x 6m.Speed-15 knots.no doubt someone on here will have more info david.thats all i know.cheers.ROO
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Robust. Still awaiting a rescuer at a Yacht Conversion Yard in FLorida, the last I heard?
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