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Old 6th September 2016, 14:47
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Are there better quality cards for my two bog standard Canon cameras?
I have a Canon SX30is a bridge camera and a Canon SX230hs pocket camera. Both are fairly good and I use standard hc? cards.
I take a lot of ships photos in poor, misty, hazy early morning light, the subjects usually around one or two miles away.
I don't really want to change the cameras, and was just wondering if the quality of my pictures could be improved by using higher quality cards and getting more pixels for my bucks.
I'm just a happy snapper really, and don't really want to go for higher quality cameras or invest in a camera with high quality interchangeable lenses.
I'm always disappointed with the results I get, except in broad daylight when both cameras work quite well.
Tweaking with my software can help, but I rarely get pictures that are as good as my Mk 1 eyeballs.
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Are there better quality cards for my two bog standard Canon cameras?
I have a Canon SX30is a bridge camera and a Canon SX230hs pocket camera. Both are fairly good and I use standard hc? cards.
I take a lot of ships photos in poor, misty, hazy early morning light, the subjects usually around one or two miles away.
I don't really want to change the cameras, and was just wondering if the quality of my pictures could be improved by using higher quality cards and getting more pixels for my bucks.
I'm just a happy snapper really, and don't really want to go for higher quality cameras or invest in a camera with high quality interchangeable lenses.
I'm always disappointed with the results I get, except in broad daylight when both cameras work quite well.
Tweaking with my software can help, but I rarely get pictures that are as good as my Mk 1 eyeballs.
The basic difference in HC (High Capacity) memory cards is the speed at which they process information. Obviously the faster cards can make the loading time between shots a lot quicker, or as quick as the cameras internal electronics can operate. They have no connection with the focusing of the camera lens They come in a variety of 'flavours' and I have enclosed a shortcut that explains it all'

http://www.integralmemory.com/faq/ca...c-and-sd-cards

Hope this helps as it can be a minefield!

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I'm not familiar with that camera, but I believe from what I've googled it's a 14 megapixel. While it's a good idea always to use the best quality storage cards, they are literally that, storage, the picture quality will always be dictated by the lens and the sensor pixel count.
I'm assuming you've got the resolution set to it's highest setting on the camera (this means much larger files but that's why you should use best quality storage.) If you're using magnification with your shots you have to realise the resolution/light will fall off as you go. The primary consideration with digital cameras is the pixel count of the sensor. Fourteen isn't bad, but it's been well surpassed by now.
Some years ago I bought a Canon E550D second hand on Ebay with an 18-55mm telephoto lens, a very versatile size. I eventually bought a more powerful lens but I have to say in all fairness the 18x55 is still my favourite. The camera itself is 18 megapixel.
I too am only a snapper, but take a lot of shots outside, mountains, sea views, and so on which is why I wanted an interchangeable lens (with stabilisation.)
Then a year ago I decided to buy a pocket camera, (the E550D is rather bulky and heavy) and settled on a Canon IXUS 275 HS which is so much easier to carry. Not much larger than a Swan Vestas matchbox, but both optical and digital zoom and 24 megapixels. You can't change the lens on it, but you can slip it into your shirt pocket.
The Mark 1 eyeball is probably the most beautiful optical instrument in existence on this planet, but remember, most of what you see through it is mightily processed by the brain.
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Its all in the lens Dickyboy, I dont think a better memory card will help you just like LouisB mentioned. Hock your old cameras and buy a new one.
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Many thanks everyone
So basically better cards won't make much, if any difference. It's all down to the processor within the camera, right?
I may get a better camera SLR perhaps with RAW available.
But then another question arises, Will the pictures appear MUCH better on my computer screen?
If so what Cannon would anyone recommend?
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Its all in the lens Dickyboy, I dont think a better memory card will help you just like LouisB mentioned. Hock your old cameras and buy a new one.
Hocking your old camera is no good,I have been trying to sell my Panasonic lumix FZ38(bridge camera)All of the camera shops that I have tried do not want it,the 2 local pawn broker type shops will only offer £30 for a £300 camera ,still with its own box and all the bits.

I have decided to keep the camera but i am going out tomorrow to buy a Sony WX350,small ,light and with all the mod cons,
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Many thanks everyone
So basically better cards won't make much, if any difference. It's all down to the processor within the camera, right?
I may get a better camera SLR perhaps with RAW available.
But then another question arises, Will the pictures appear MUCH better on my computer screen?
If so what Cannon would anyone recommend?
MY HD videos are brilliant!
Go to the shop and try the Canon and a Sony,then buy the one that does the trick for you.
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Old 6th September 2016, 17:04
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Looking at an EOS750D. Looks pretty good to me. Currys offer a 2nd lens (Zoom) for around 70 Quid. One complaint frequent in the reviews is the cost pf a 2nd battery. Early makes of this model had a product recall as well, but that was over a year ago, so I expect the prob' has been resolved by now. People also say that the AUTO is very good as well.
Not worth selling the old one methinks, believe it or not I have friends, yes friends! who might like it for a pint or two.
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At 24 megapixel I think you'll find a considerable difference with that camera. Coupled with stabilised lenses easily switched with a simple click. I can only judge from mine, an earlier model of that series but I've been very pleased with it. With just the 18-55 zoomed up I got this picture from the gallery a couple of months ago on Lundy Island, well north of where the Oldenberg was berthed.

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Just adding to my previous posting re focusing etc. I have used digital cameras since their inception and now do my own printing up to A2 size. This can always show up any lens or focusing faults in the original photo'. Most (but not all) of the non professional cameras use a focusing system based on contrast i.e. it looks for the difference in brightness in the area that you wish to photograph. Once you have 'zoomed' into that area, try half depressing the 'shoot' button. This will then focus the camera to the greatest difference of contrast within the shot you wish to take. If there is insufficient light the focus system will hunt and you will probably end up out of focus when you press the button all the way to take the shot. If shooting in low/ish light try altering the aperture to around f5.6 and compensate the smaller intake of light by raising the iso to around 800/1000. Another 'silly' suggestion is to ensure that the lens is absolutely spotless - believe me, it does make a difference in a small sensor camera.


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I have had Canon EOS cameras for some years now, film and digital.
The main issue with Canon digital SLRs is something called 'anti-ailiasing' which they use to prevent interference patterns on strips and similar.
Nikon do not use it and 'claim' that the end result might be sharper without it - well they would wouldn't they.
Anti-aliasing is really any use when the mega-pixel count is around the 7 to 15 mark. The newer 20+ mega-pixel cameras should not need it, in theory.
I have just bought a new EOS760D . Reasons being: I have a load of Canon lenses; It can record video; It has very similar controls to my previous cameras, but is smaller and lighter.
Downside is that my old CF cards do not fit and I have had to invest in some new SD HC/XC cards - CF and standard SD are too slow for video apparently.
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This is a pic I took some years ago with a Fine Pix. Similar to the results I get I get with my current one. Of course a lot of detail is lost when a pic' has to be reduced to fit into the forum Gallery. It's not broad daylight photo's I have problems with, it's ones taken in low light misty, hazy conditions usually in the morning.
If I took photo's an "Normal" times I wouldn't have a problem, but the Cruise ships and others tend to arrive in the Solent around 05.00 so that's when I want to try and get better quality photo's.
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Looking at an EOS750D. Looks pretty good to me. Currys offer a 2nd lens (Zoom) for around 70 Quid. One complaint frequent in the reviews is the cost pf a 2nd battery. Early makes of this model had a product recall as well, but that was over a year ago, so I expect the prob' has been resolved by now. People also say that the AUTO is very good as well.
Not worth selling the old one methinks, believe it or not I have friends, yes friends! who might like it for a pint or two.
Try 7dayshop for your battery Dickyboy £4.49 each plus delivery (Courier as the Post Office won't deliver Lithium Cells) always get my Nikon batteries from there https://www.7dayshop.com/digital-camera-batteries
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Just adding to my previous posting re focusing etc. I have used digital cameras since their inception and now do my own printing up to A2 size. This can always show up any lens or focusing faults in the original photo'. Most (but not all) of the non professional cameras use a focusing system based on contrast i.e. it looks for the difference in brightness in the area that you wish to photograph. Once you have 'zoomed' into that area, try half depressing the 'shoot' button. This will then focus the camera to the greatest difference of contrast within the shot you wish to take. If there is insufficient light the focus system will hunt and you will probably end up out of focus when you press the button all the way to take the shot. If shooting in low/ish light try altering the aperture to around f5.6 and compensate the smaller intake of light by raising the iso to around 800/1000. Another 'silly' suggestion is to ensure that the lens is absolutely spotless - believe me, it does make a difference in a small sensor camera.


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Thanks Louis I've never tried altering the aperture, but I do half press the button, and let auto do the work, with poor effect.
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Try 7dayshop for your battery Dickyboy £4.49 each plus delivery (Courier as the Post Office won't deliver Lithium Cells) always get my Nikon batteries from there https://www.7dayshop.com/digital-camera-batteries
Had a look on there. Great value. Curry's don't list much in the way of batteries. Certainly not the EP-E17 that I would require.
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The LP-E17 batteries are available from many e-bay sellers at a good price.
Do not bother. They are second hand, or at least 'previously used'.
I bought one and when the 'problem' was pointed out the seller offered half my money back, which I accepted, one time only.

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This is a pic I took some years ago with a Fine Pix. Similar to the results I get I get with my current one. Of course a lot of detail is lost when a pic' has to be reduced to fit into the forum Gallery. It's not broad daylight photo's I have problems with, it's ones taken in low light misty, hazy conditions usually in the morning.
If I took photo's an "Normal" times I wouldn't have a problem, but the Cruise ships and others tend to arrive in the Solent around 05.00 so that's when I want to try and get better quality photo's.
Very nice photo Dickyboy.
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The LP-E17 batteries are available from many e-bay sellers at a good price.
Do not bother. They are second hand, or at least 'previously used'.
I bought one and when the 'problem' was pointed out the seller offered half my money back, which I accepted, one time only.

7dayshop have not got them listed as yet.
I bought 4 batteries off of ebay for my pocket camera. 2 of them were duff, so I'll never buy from there again. Probably Chinese fakes.
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Very nice photo Dickyboy.
Thanks John. One loses a lot of the quality when it is posted on line though.
I like to post a picture, then save it back to my computer, with a slightly different name, then compare the two. The difference between the one with MBs and the one with KBs can be clearly seen when zooming in and out. The original was 1.2MBs I think.
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Dickie I have a Nikon Coolpix l840 bridge camera 16.0 megapixels with a 55mm lens and 38X zoom that goes out 76X zoom electronically.I have found this to be an excellent camera for my needs.This camera also does excellent video with full HD.This camera replaced a Fuji bridge camera that gave me excellent service and which I still occasionally use.As for batteries I by mine from Amazon all original at a reasonable price

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Dickie I have a Nikon Coolpix l840 bridge camera 16.0 megapixels with a 55mm lens and 38X zoom that goes out 76X zoom electronically.I have found this to be an excellent camera for my needs.This camera also does excellent video with full HD.This camera replaced a Fuji bridge camera that gave me excellent service and which I still occasionally use.As for batteries I by mine from Amazon all original at a reasonable price
Looks very nice Brooksy, but not quite what I'm after. Quite similar to what I have now, but a few more Mega Pixels. My Zoom is 35X so not much difference there either really. If I'm going to get a new camera it might as well be a very much better one than I have now I think.
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I have been a Nikon fan > My Nikkon gave up when taken under water pictures in San Carlos water but this one always had the best results. I brought a Nikon af was very good but could not stand shipboard use. Next a fugi digtal card would only take 12 pics come very useful when the windless hdy motor went to pices abel to sent office pics via my MOB and laptop. Back to Nikon 150 very good but trying to take pic of the Matterhorn did not like the strong light. now brought a Nikon 3300 very good also have 75 to 150 and a 150 to 300 nikon lens. also a nikon cool 20 again a very good camera got the picture of the matterhorn. with the 3300 also eagles flying over the house. and many other things



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I've had quite a few digital cameras over the years, but never a Nikon.
My first Digital Camera had video capability, but no audio! That was an Olympus back in 2004 I think. How they've improved since then!
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I have a Panasonic that can do video, but I use it very little, usually as a result of pressing the wrong button !! It occurs to me though, that given a high storage card, they might be useful as a dashboard camera for short journies. I have not tried it yet, but any thoughts ??

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I have a Panasonic that can do video, but I use it very little, usually as a result of pressing the wrong button !! It occurs to me though, that given a high storage card, they might be useful as a dashboard camera for short journies. I have not tried it yet, but any thoughts ??

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I've tried that with a camera. Didn't work very well as it tended to slide around on the dash, which is not a flat surface. I did have more luck with the digicam though.
I've bought a Canon EOS750D camera and a Sigma telephoto zoom in the one package.
I was supposed to pick it up today, but what with the car prang, I had to pay an extra Tenner to have it delivered.
Total price at Curry's £655.49. No doubt I could have bought it elsewhere for less. Please don't tell me Curry's is very local to me and if things go wrong I can go around there and thump the counter in the same way that John Briggs avatar did.
PS I would suggest a "Dash Cam for the car. Quite cheap apparently, easily mounted and made for the job.
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