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Old 20th December 2014, 16:04
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Nina, the concern was her Russian lover and possible pillow talk from Profumo.
Strange times in those days, I am sure we are going to find out more with what is brewing at the moment with the possible? involvements of MP's from those days.
I agree Chadburn - Over the years and on my travels I have met and worked with people, some of which had extremely well connected and influential relatives. I have learned since that some of the related tales that I was told were quite true. All a long time ago, however the secrets don't appear to have been buried deeply enough, as recent events are now proving. A lot of forelock touching in those days - not so much of it now seemingly.

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Of the two girls, I always thought that Mandy Rice - Davies was the prettier, just personal choice
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Always pleased to help, if I can!

One of my own recollections was reading at the time that Miss Keeler spent her early life in Hoylake, Wirral, having been born and quite possibly conceived there. There was a sense of history in the air (or in the pubs at least!) that the conception which ultimately rocked the nation might have taken place on our own doorstep!
Not according to her biography, Barrie. She born in Uxbridge, grew up in Berkshire and migrated to Soho at age 15. Not to worry though, probably others were conceived on your doorstep in those "knee trembler" days.

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I`ve just read a book called`A Very British Affair`about the Profumo affair,fascinating read I recommend it to you,it`s true they,Keeler and Rice Davies,were not on the game,just no better than they should have been.What most revealing was the vendetta the Fleet Street press aimed at the Government as a result of the imprisonment of two reporters for not revealing their sources.What was really a relatively minor affair was blown into what ensued by their relentless pursuit of all involved.Fascinating reading abvout how Peter Rachman came to become so powerful,all those large houses i the estates of the Dukes,Bedofrd,Westminster and all had been on 100 year leases when built and Rachman bought the fag end of them and supplied a very real need for post war housing,no altruisim shown,rent controlled tenants out,multiple occupancy in.
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Many thanks, JT,

Yes, I remember the Uxbridge bit, too, now that you come to mention. But I do have a vivid recollection of a connection (or at least a purported connection) with Hoylake, somewhere. Perhaps it was nothing more than ale-house gossip, but I do remember the gossip, quite vividly.

The saddest part has to be the trial of Stephen Ward; and the end of his life; and his utterly lonely funeral.

Another vivid recollection is the publication of the Denning Report, which must have been in September 1963. I had been to Spain with friends for a holiday. Pre-air-travel. Overnight coach (horror of horrors, pre-motorway) to London and then by train, cross-channel ferry and change at Paris - and then SNCF to Barcelona. Travelling home with the young lady who eventually became my wife, we were able to buy the Denning Report in London; and read it on the overnight coach back to Birkenhead.

Never since then have I travelled by overnight coach; and have no wish to repeat the experience!
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Not according to her biography, Barrie. She born in Uxbridge, grew up in Berkshire and migrated to Soho at age 15. Not to worry though, probably others were conceived on your doorstep in those "knee trembler" days.

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Rejuvenating, innit?
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Politics hath no end.

Long ago it was pointed out to me that Tories place their hands LIKE THIS, Socialists place their hands LIKE THAT and Liberals place one hand ON THE HIP. Very little changes.

Recently I read a review of "Boris on Winston" (Johnson's new biography of Churchill). I understand (subject to fulfilment of my Christmas wish-list) that it contains an account of a civil servant reporting to Churchill that a Cabinet Minister had been caught in flagrante delicto with a guardsman, on a bench in Hyde Park, at 0300, in February.

The review indicated that Churchill's response was (approximately) "With a guardsman? At 0300 on a bench in Hyde Park? In February? Makes you proud to be British!"
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"Half a pound for Mandy Rice,
Half a pound for Keeler,
That's the way the money goes,
Five bob to feel her".

I had the experience although very innocent, to dance with Mandy when she was on honeymoon with Israeli husband No 1 in the Seychelles. This was the Hogmanay of 1964 and RFA Tidespring was paying a visit to that beautiful part of the world. Two much maligned young women Mandy and Christine were, when the real nasty ones were the ones in high places.
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From my recollections she was not a 'lady of the night) nor was CK, rather a pair of good time girl.
the whole affair in hindsight sight was laughable what with state secrets going between them Profuimo the Russian total balls their conversation would gave been limited to other topics rather that Mata Hari style.
laughable!
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Perhaps better described as life's pattern at its richest.

Laughs, there were many; but the more obviously serious aspects far outweighed all of those things.
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Mandy Rice-Davies, one of the main figures in the 1960s Profumo affair, has died from cancer at the age of 70, her publicist has said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30547066

A classic where a low born state school lady of the night stuck it right up the Tory voting public school qc.
A shambles of a case with the Tory party trying to blame every man and his dog for their self inflicted wounds.

Profumo went onto to do no end of charitable work in London if I remember correctly

Any excuse to post this....a cracking opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAhwqs6FXQ4#t=51
I was told that she was spotted in a pub in Kendal in the late 60s, and when asked what she was doing there answered that she was looking for the Cock of the North (could be apocryphal).
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good day willincity,sm.yesterday.23:44.re:mandy rice-davies.they used her and abused her,but she was too smart for them.may she rest in peace.regards ben27
You have hit the nail on the head Ben.
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When the 'kerfuffle' with Princess Diana was going on I thought about the similarity with the MRD incident ....."She beat the bastards at their own game"....
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good day keltic star.sm.14th april.2015.#40 thank you for your reply.have a good day,regards ben27
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Let's not get carried away - the pair of them were shagging Commie Spies and Cabinet Ministers and lots of other "rich and famous"at the same time. Something had to be done about it. Keeler did a short prison sentence but I think Rice-Davies walked away.

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In another life when I was living in Cornwall I got tangled up with one of Stephen Ward's string of girls. She was a very nice well educated and well mannered bit of fluff and had a very strong interest in sex,,and never mentioned Ward but did let on about being an enthusiastic amateur at some very stately homes,,When Ward topped himself she got arrested for holding a personal commeration service in the local church, praiseworthy one would think,, problem was she was completely nude and she assaulted the young constable who was sent to collect her. I bailed her out and never one to probe, sorry that should be pry, I waited till she volunteered more info. Keeler and MRD were her friends and were also enthusiastic amateurs, who got involved with Ward. She said Ward was a funny bloke,, probably queer, and was a sort of guru Svengali type which accounted for her church visit even though she also said she hated him. I also knew Lucky Gordon,, a small time stand over man and a nasty bit of work, even though the rest of the west indian community regarded him as a sort of dangerous joke, All this is over 50 years ago,, I look back fondly, after all that is real nostalgia.
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Howay, Reefrat, "never one to probe"? Sounds like a Freudian slip.

Just kidding, an interesting memory for you.

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Let's not get carried away - the pair of them were shagging Commie Spies and Cabinet Ministers and lots of other "rich and famous"at the same time. Something had to be done about it. Keeler did a short prison sentence but I think Rice-Davies walked away.

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Oh come on, tdp....They were just young girls who got carried away with the 'good life' they got for 'giving away', to the rich and famous, what a boyfriend of their own class would have wanted ....

The 'establishment' (then, as now) covered up for each other and it was only when a Labour MP (George Wigg), using Parliamentary privilege, named Profumo that the scandal and spy tale came out....
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In another life when I was living in Cornwall I got tangled up with one of Stephen Ward's string of girls. She was a very nice well educated and well mannered bit of fluff and had a very strong interest in sex,,and never mentioned Ward but did let on about being an enthusiastic amateur at some very stately homes,,When Ward topped himself she got arrested for holding a personal commeration service in the local church, praiseworthy one would think,, problem was she was completely nude and she assaulted the young constable who was sent to collect her. I bailed her out and never one to probe, sorry that should be pry, I waited till she volunteered more info. Keeler and MRD were her friends and were also enthusiastic amateurs, who got involved with Ward. She said Ward was a funny bloke,, probably queer, and was a sort of guru Svengali type which accounted for her church visit even though she also said she hated him. I also knew Lucky Gordon,, a small time stand over man and a nasty bit of work, even though the rest of the west indian community regarded him as a sort of dangerous joke, All this is over 50 years ago,, I look back fondly, after all that is real nostalgia.
There was a joke going around at the time..............

MRD was asked if she knew who was the first to fly the Atlantic Ocean?
She replied...."Lucky Gordon.......well he was ALLCOCK and BROWN"

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Oh come on, tdp....They were just young girls who got carried away with the 'good life' they got for 'giving away', to the rich and famous, what a boyfriend of their own class would have wanted ....

The 'establishment' (then, as now) covered up for each other and it was only when a Labour MP (George Wigg), using Parliamentary privilege, named Profumo that the scandal and spy tale came out....
I'm not saying they weren't being played by darker forces but they were involved, even if they did get in out of their depth. You could say that Profumo was only a bit of a lad having a laugh too.

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Mention of George Wigg reminds me of one of my favourite articles in Private Eye (I think)..."The death has occurred of the Right Honourable George Wigg....his condition is described as satisfactory."
Sentimental I know, but this sort of quote makes me proud to be British; The dreadful hypocrisy concerning Profumo, Ward,Christine, Mandy et al does not.
I believe Lord Astor got away with it, which must be a plus for the gentry.
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Mention of George Wigg reminds me of one of my favourite articles in Private Eye (I think)..."The death has occurred of the Right Honourable George Wigg....his condition is described as satisfactory."
Sentimental I know, but this sort of quote makes me proud to be British; The dreadful hypocrisy concerning Profumo, Ward,Christine, Mandy et al does not.
I believe Lord Astor got away with it, which must be a plus for the gentry.
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Doesn’t it seem strange that more than 50 years later the powers that be still won't release details of who did what....
Was Prince Phillip involved?
Viscount Hailsham (Quintin Hogg) was rumoured to be "The man with the bell"...
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