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Old 31st October 2014, 06:08
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Voyage of Canton in 1947

I used to live in India during the was and returned to England on a ship called the Canton in around 1947. I'm trying to find out exactly when this was. Does anyone have any info going back that far?
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This would be the ship https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galler...canton/cat/520
The info re her voyages should be out there somewhere..

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Old 31st October 2014, 09:50
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On behalf of the 'SN Moderating Team', welcome aboard cryptogram.

I have moved you thread to the P&O forum where members are more likely to respond.

In the meantime, Canton was built at Alexander Stephen & Sons Ltd, Linthouse, Glasgow completed in 1938. At 16,033gt, she made several pre-war voyages, but in 1939 was taken over by the Admiralty, and converted into an armed merchant cruiser, then fitted out as a troopship in Cape Town. After the war she inaugurated the UK/Far East passenger service in 1947, and was painted with a white hull and upper works with a single buff funnel. After the war her second-class accommodation was changed to tourist-class carrying 300 first-class and 244 tourist-class. You could have travelled back from India on her inaugural return to the UK. I hope this helps, but others may have information of your actual voyage if not her inaugural voyage of 1947. Good luck with your search
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Old 31st October 2014, 17:57
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Greetings cryptogram and welcome to SN. I ,did 8 voyages on the Canton,but in the 1952/53.. Bon voyage.
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Old 31st October 2014, 20:32
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According to a shipping notice in the Straits Times (Singapore), in 1947, the CANTON was expected from London on the 11th of November on her way to Hong Kong. She was next expected on the 30th of November on her way back to London were she was due on the 22nd of December. It would seem that she returned to normal commercial sailings in the latter part of 1947 so this could possibly be her inaugural voyage,and again, possibly, her only normal liner run in 1947.

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http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspap...-1.2.85.3.aspx
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Old 31st October 2014, 23:44
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Hello and welcome. If you were willing to give a full name or a name of anyone on the voyage I could check for you.

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Old 2nd November 2014, 11:24
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First of all a big thank you to all of you who have already replied and been so helpful.
Then, in reply to Hugh, my proper name is Robert Graham (I'm normally known as Robin and may possibly appear as this on a ship's passenger list). My date of birth is 29.11.37. I was in India for most of the war (my father was in the Gurkha Rifles). My mother's name was Violet Elisabeth and should be on the same passenger list as me, as we sailed back together (my father returning a year or two later). If it's any interest to you or anyone reading this, we were in Simla towards the end of the war and went to a transit camp in Deolali for a week or two or three before our passge in the Canton from Bombay back to the UK (Southampton). Deolali (from where the word doolally comes from) was the site of the TV show It Ain't Half Hot, Mum.
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Hi there, I am afraid you are a day too late in getting back to me as my access to the passenger lists has just run out. There does appear to be a passenger listing for Violet Elizabeth Graham but I cannot see for what year.

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Old 2nd November 2014, 16:54
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Ah! Thanks anyway. Sorry, I was away all day yesterday and couldn't get back to you. However, I can pay for some access myself!
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I did 4 trips in the CANTON early 60s
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I did 4 trips in the CANTON early 60s
As liners go she does not look in the photos to be a very big ship
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Old 16th January 2015, 22:19
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Canton

Hi. Durango. Your right she was a small liner compared to most, she was just over fifteen and a half thousand ton's if memory serves .She had a sister ship the Cikral??forget right spelling, [email protected] brought them from Belgium if I remember rightly. Your near Rayleigh then,lived here around seventeen years anyway all the best. Narra
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Chitral was bought from Belgium, but the original Canton was not. Canton 16033 tons.
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Hi. Durango. Your right she was a small liner compared to most, she was just over fifteen and a half thousand ton's if memory serves .She had a sister ship the Cikral??forget right spelling, [email protected] brought them from Belgium if I remember rightly. Your near Rayleigh then,lived here around seventeen years anyway all the best. Narra
Pity she is not still about just a nice size for a liner best regards .
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Old 17th January 2015, 20:39
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Chitral was bought from Belgium, but the original Canton was not. Canton 16033 tons.
I thought they were sisters? Allways led to believe that. Narra.
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I was the last 3/O in Canton for the final couple of passenger carrying voyages and the sad delivery run to the breakers in HK. That was October 1962. Canton was the slightly larger, and newer sister to Corfu and Carthage, all built for P&O in the immediate pre-WW2 era. Chitral and Cathay were smaller ships built for Belgian owners at the wrong time, when the Belgian Congo became independant. P&O bought them to replace Canton's sisters who were scrapped before she was. One of the 'S' class Far East 12 passenger cargo ships (Singapore) was repainted white with a yellow funnel and renamed 'Comorin' to try to fool shipping agents that there were still 3 white 'C' sisters on the Far East run. A move in the same class as renaming things Pando this or that or repainting proudly independent ships in bizarre corn with blue funnels.


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Old 17th January 2015, 21:19
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Ian. I stand to be corrected many thanks.Narra
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I sailed on the Corfu 60 61, did the last voyage as Bell Boy.
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Old 8th August 2017, 17:32
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Hi everyone! I am currently doing a research for an article regarding Canton, in particular, I am looking for any information and stories about her last days in Hong Kong before she was sold to shipbreaker (Leung Yau Shipbreaker), and any information regarding her bell, which was presented to and received by my secondary school (Ying Wa College, Hong Kong) on 3rd October 1962, and has been placed in my school since then for almost 55 years now.

See link below to my photo gallery showing the ship in early October 1962, the bell presentation onboard in 1962, and the bell in 2017.

https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galler...&ppuser=204810

Please let me know if you have any such information. Thanks in advance!
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Your link did not work. See here https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galler...r-bell/cat/520

See also my post #3 about Canton.
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The other liner like the Canton was the P & O Carthage. I will provide her details tomorrow. Cheers, Roger

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Old 8th August 2017, 23:55
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Hi David, thanks for your reminder!

I re-post the link to my gallery again below. Hope it works. Thanks!

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The other liner like the Canton was the P & O Carthage. I will provide her details tomorrow. Cheers, Roger
Just checked the Corfu and Carthage were smaller than the Canton. Both built 1931 A Stephen and Sons. Tonnage 14280 Corfu, 14283 Carthage. Service speed 17 knots. I well remember the Carthage, I was on Brocklebank's Malabar a Sam Boat, and an Indian crew member complained of serious stomach pains, we sent a XXX for medical assistance and the Carthage obliged. After much chat she put a boat down and came across and took the chap on board. I remember seeing the Carthage passengers watching with great interests with lots cameras on display. As she pulled away we gave off a large black smoke plume as engineers blew tubes or something. Turned out the crew member when landed in Aden had nothing seriously wrong with him! Cheers, Roger
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