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Old 1st November 2008, 06:43
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Ahoy,
This is what "Merchant Ships 1956" says:
REINA DE MAR,20,225 tons gross.This new passenger liner, built for the PSNC by Harland & Wolff Ltd.,Belfast,has joined the REINA DEL PACIFICO to maintain the service from the UK,France and Spain to Bermuda,the Bahamas,Cuba,Jamaica,Panama,Colombia,Ecuador,Peru and Chili, and augmented service enables calls at Trinidad and in Venezuela to be added. The REINA DEL MAR ia a twin-screw turbine ship with a lenght o.a 600 ft. 7in,lenght b.p. 560 ft.,breadth moulded 78 ft.,depth moulded to C deck 44 ft,draught 30 ft. In appearence the ship is graceful and has the modern tapered funnel for keeping the smoke clear of the decks. The hull is largely riveted,though butts are welded, and welding has been extensively used inside the ship.
In common with ther new passenger vessels she is fitted with Denny-Brown stabilizers. The propelling machinery consists of a two-shaft arrangement of Parson' double-reduction geared turbines,having a total power in service of 17,000 s.h.p,with propeller revolutions of 112 per minute. Stean at 525lb per sq. in. pressure and 825 degree F. temperature is generated in two water boiler made by the builders to Babcock & Wilcox controlled-superheat three-drum design, The REINA DEL MAR does not reflect the modern tendency towards a one- or two class ship, as she is desigbed for the South American trade where there remains a demand for the conventional three classes. Well-to-do South Americans expect and are prepared to pay for the best possible accommodation and service, and the ship provides for 207 first class passengers. I n the cabin class there is accommodation for 216 passengers in single, tw, three, four-berth rooms. The 343 tourist class passengers are provided for in cabins with one to six berths, and consist largely of emigrants when first leavinf Europe and other returning to re-visit it. A feature of this modern three-class ship is that in effect there is a move up for all three classes,the first class becoming "de luxe", the second class becoming first. and the third class is better than the second class accommodation in older ships. Air condition covers the whole of the passenger accommodation. In addition to passenger accommodation the REINA DEL MAR has a total of 6,000 tons for cargo in five holds. The outward cargo is mostly of manufacturers' goods, but much of the homeward cargo consists of heavy commodities such as metal ores. There are insulated cargo spaces in No. 4 tunnel and lower tweendecks.
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Hope this will clear things regarding the replies,here also added a [HR available] scan of the ships plan,btw Gianpaulo's aka Tanker posted in 2005, picture was a scan from the same booklet.
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Old 1st November 2008, 17:31
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PSNC in the sixties carrried outward bound all manner of manufactured goods, homeward mainly ores as Rudd has stated. We used to carry copper ignots, tin ore in bags from Bolivia, Llama wool in bales, fish meal bagged, onions when is season, tinned fish products already labelled Princes Foods (Liverpool) cant remember if it was labelled Country of origin and some tinned fruit etc.
Apparently the Reina del Mar never operated proffitably under her PSNC operations, what the extent of her losses were for each voyage I cannot say.

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Old 1st November 2008, 17:57
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I always think that the "Reina del Mar" was built as a REPLACEMENT for the "Reina del Pacifico". I don't think that after WW2 there was much demand for a two-ship passenger service between North Europe and the West Coast of South America and Royal Mail knew this that's why the schedule was expanded to include Bermuda , Nassau and other West Indian ports en route. These additional calls were taken away from other Royal Mail services or at least augmented them.

The "Reina del Pacifico" had extensive war service and must have been quite tired looking inside after 1945. My father was on an extensive voyage from the UK to South Africa then on to Port Tewfik at the southern end of the Suez Canal during the war. He was in the RAF and I think the voyage must have carried additional troops for what became the North African campaign.

Cargo between the WCSA and northern Europe was very much as described and was not to be easily containerized when the time came. I can imagine fish meal in bulk (or bags) must have imparted a unique odor for the passengers northbound!

I think the "Reina del Mar" was a very good looking ship and a credit to her designers and builders. Harlands continued to use rivets for sheer strake and for attaching shellplates to frames long after other used welding. I was on two H and W-built ships built in the 50s that were so constructed.

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Old 1st November 2008, 23:37
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Fishmeal certainly stunk and also was liable to spontaneous combustion mainly smouldering due to its dampness. canoot say if the Reina ever carried it I expect not due to its odour and passengers whims. The odour of the fishmeal permeated into clothes and was murder to totally get rid of it, one became immune to the smell but when one got home others would smell its pugnant odour.
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Old 11th November 2008, 16:55
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I believe during her sea trials there was a boiler room explosion where gas had gathered between the furnace front and the outer casing, causing death and severe burns to ship and shore personnel.
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Old 27th February 2009, 16:00
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Yes we carried lots of West Indians on the reina, third class, they were very naive, but the children on sunday mornings were all dressed in their best gear for the church service. Also remember one young man asking me whether it would be quicker for him to walk to London from Plymouth, or to carry on and land at Liverpool, I was a steward in the tourist restaurant, and they kept me well supplied with rum (and coconut water)
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Old 27th February 2009, 17:40
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I was at sea during ww2 and untill . In 1965 we joined a club run by a Max Wilson - a South African who was going to make cruising like the air holidays which were the bcoming popular. You saved each month and then booked a cruise. We chose the Reina del Mar from L'pool to NY and back - the World Fair was on in NY and the 17day cruise included 4 days living on the ship in NY and visiting the fair etc. It was a wonderful holiday and cost us £135 for 4 of us - missus and 2 kids. The cabins were brand new - the cargo holds had been converted. She had the longest bar afloat, we were told - right across the lounge forward of the bridge. Some passengers had booked to go to Montreal on one of the Empress ships but owing to poor bookings were put on the RdM and flown from NY to Canada for 4 days and then back with us The captain was the uncle of a chap I worked with so we were introduced- - he used to come to the lounge and stay all evening. One evening I pointed out to my wife that all the deck officers except for the junior 4th mate were in the lounge as well as nearly all the engineers. A regular feature was the po-pop-pop of the steam from the funnel owing to excess boiler pressure we were told. One night a crowd of us were milling around the engine room in the early hours.
Needless to say, the firm went bust very shortly afterwards.
The world fair was great and we had helicopter rides from the fair to Wall Street etc.
She was a great ship. The captain was a real character. Once he said to me quite seriously - "I can't understand why you left the sea - where else would you get a clean shirt every day "!!!
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Old 26th April 2009, 16:07
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I signed on for a relief trip in July 72 around the Med. There was also a week in Southampton dock while repairs were carried out. I was glad to return to the Bulk Carrier King Alfred. I heard a story that when the ship was sailing to the Taiwan breakers, the bosuns mate (from St Helena?) finally got around to fixing the broken door to the chippy shop!
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Old 11th June 2009, 15:44
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Reina Del Mar

Hi
I was JOS on the Reina from 05/04/66 to 27/02/67
I had a lot of good times on her. As I recall we used to spend more time in Lisbon than we did in the UK. Apart from the "Medi" cruises, she also did a South American cruise from Capetown. Didn't enjoy that part of it, as the passengers were a bit uncouth, if you know what I mean?
Prior to the Reina I was on the Andes. The Reina was a much more laid back ship, as I recall a Tourist Class cruise liner, whereas the Andes was strictly First Class. The Reina had a bit of a holiday camp atmosphere about her, and more of a family holiday ship than the Andes.
I enjoyed my time on her much more than the other Pazzie ships I was on.
She was the only passenger ship I was on where the deck crews accommodation was aft, next to the Chinese laundry men's cabin if I remember correctly.
I can only find one photo of the Reina taken by me, though I must have taken many more. Lost over the years I suppose.
Not very good, but I'll attach it anyway.
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Old 2nd September 2009, 18:22
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was on the reina from 27/7 to 8/8/66.first trip after the strike.from what i can remember the mate seemed to have a downer on deck boys
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Old 7th November 2009, 09:50
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was on the reina from 27/7 to 8/8/66.first trip after the strike.from what i can remember the mate seemed to have a downer on deck boys
I was Seamans Mess Peggy on her for a lot of my time. That was a rude awakening! Never thought that being a Peggy could be such hard work. Trying to keep the crew happy in the Mess was hard work, and most ABs had a complaint about something. Something not clean, not enough food, food cold, etc etc......
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my grandad ron miller "dusty" was chief steward and i was wanting to know if anyone had any info or photos on him.
if anyone has please contact me by private message.

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Old 20th January 2010, 13:04
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Welcome aboard from East Yorkshire, Mark.
Site policy is to use the private message system rather than posting private email addresses so your post has been edited slightly.
Find your way around and get to know the crew.
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Old 1st January 2011, 21:09
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The Reina Del Mar was a fantastic ship, I have many wonderful memories from the voyages I made in her as an AB in 1960,more relaxed than any other passenger liners I,ve sailed on.
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Old 30th January 2013, 22:44
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I was on this ship as an AB on the scrap run to Taiwan it was a slow voyage but a pleasnt one played football in the coral lounge the swimming pool was fulled and a few bar b cues were hld
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Great ship and a great run,Havana before Castro, was a great night ashore, we were there on Jan 1st when the revolutionaries came into havana, we were in the dos hermanos bar fortified with bacardi. The next trip however things had changed and Havana was taken off the itinary. Still there was always Valporaiso, Callao,panama and the spanish ports for compensation
I was on the Del Mar on her second voyage recall the Dos Hermanos bar Havana with affection not infection as one of my mates might do,used the bar many times on visits on other ships,I have posted before of my time on the Del Mar,my favourite place on her was the padded cell above the after mooring deck where a lady passenger and I spent many happy hours,her mum was a great lady also she was a friend of another a.b.from Wallasey but he didnt get to share the padded cell , the lucky bugger was sneaked down to her cabin,The crows nest was an open one great in the tropics but bloody freezing when docking before xmas.There was a raving Portugese poof on her I think he was one of the extra crew we picked uo in Santander,any body remember him?I think the skippers name was Rice and the chief engineers was Curry?
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I was on this ship as an AB on the scrap run to Taiwan it was a slow voyage but a pleasnt one played football in the coral lounge the swimming pool was fulled and a few bar b cues were hld
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The Reina was a wonderful experience. She was like a public transport bus stopping constantly to take on or drop off passengers. And as an observant AB I discovered that once she arrived in the Carribean, and on to all of the ports down to Valparaiso and back again, more than a few of the Latin passengers were fare dodgers just like those on a bus. And getting off at the next stop.
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One job I had on the Reina was to assist the Deck AB. I can't remember his title, but he used to keep the outer decks up to scratch. Make up new quiots, organise deck games for the passengers, and generally interact with the passengers. He had a locker on one of the open decks, lifeboat I think. It was a good job, and one of the few where a deck crew member could interact with the passengers.
If I recall correctly the deck AB name was "Topsy" Turvey, an Aussie who had been a helicopter pilot in Nam, came to the UK and ended up on the ships.
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On the scap run the raings had the top passenger cabins this made the voyage very pleasant for us the officers had to use there usual cabins because of the alarm systems I think I am right in saying when opperational the crew cabins aft where air-conditioned
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[QUOTE=kag52rc;658121]On the scap run the raings had the top passenger cabins this made the voyage very pleasant for us the officers had to use there usual cabins because of the alarm systems I think I am right in saying when opperational the crew cabins aft here air-co No Kag the crews accomodation aft was not airconditioned, the deck crowds if I recall was on the port side aft.
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Correct, the Deck Crowds Accom' was port side aft, just ahead of the laundryman's accommodation, which was one big cabin in which they cooked, ate and slept, at least I think they cooked in there as well. Used to stink our accommodation out, I do remember that.
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PSNC passenger service was not limited to UK passengers. The Reina del Pacifico (in 1950) called at La Rochelle, out and homeward, carrying French, German , Swiss, etc. between Europe and WCSA ports. Brits were mainly bound for Bermuda, Bahamas and Kingston. Jamaicans used her, going back and forth to their jobs in the Canal Zone.
One of my fondest memories was standing lookout in the bows, and listening to Spanish monks serenading their hispanic kinfolk passengers with La Golondrina, somewhere between Cartagena and Kingston. Those guys could really harmonize.
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I had this photo on a british book about Liverpool city from time ago. But I did not know anything about this ship. At first I thought perhaps she was a spanish liner because she has a very common spanish name: REINA DEL MAR (english: QUEEN OF THE SEA).

I always liked this picture. The book have many others, with portuary scenes from the 50's... with many ships. But no mention of their names, because the book speaks about the history of Liverpool, not about ships.


At Liverpool in 1956 (she was a beautiful new ship). Photographer Elsam, Mann and Cooper.
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An interesting pic of REINA DEL MAR when she was built by Harland & Wolff
ltd Belfast in 1956. She was built to mantein the service from U.K.France and
Spain to Bermuda , Bahamas etc. (M. Ships W.Built 1956).
I think that all photos can be put on the site, important is specified when they are not of our Personal Collection, like this the unfortunately that have not a great collections can partecipate to the site with researching and scanning the various ships pics.Are you agree with me?
This is an example.
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The excellent photo shows her on sea trials ... note code flag "A" at yard arm; also has "H" above bridge. Cheers ! Keith.
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