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Old 17th August 2016, 06:21
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Hull Alexandra Dock

Just posted by BT Films.Wonderful production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lOxgLTYpYs
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Old 17th August 2016, 08:54
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great film
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Old 17th August 2016, 10:34
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to true keep them coming thanks for posting
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Old 17th August 2016, 18:09
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That,s a brilliant film,a feast of nostalgia.I know the ship featured is one of Ellerman,s but it would be a shame if it didn,t get seen more, tucked away in the Ellerman forum.
Thanks for posting it funnelstays.
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Old 17th August 2016, 19:08
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Great film. Am sure there was one in which the Denholm ore carriers were featured.
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Old 17th August 2016, 21:07
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Interesting. First time I saw those Coal Hoists was in the 1950s when one of my older brothers let me come and watch him paint them. It was during the summer school holidays.
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Old 18th August 2016, 01:58
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Great film about a bygone age. Not a hard hat in sight! I guess they wouldn't have stayed on with all the Brylcream? If three of those "captains" had gone over the side there would have been a bigger slick than the Sea Empress!!! When I saw all those dockers move to the front I thought aye they have been promised a stripper and when they went to the back I thought "au up, there must be a ship, let's all f**k off to Sutton Golf Club!!! And as for the passenger, keep quiet mate, play the white man and you won't have to go to Nuremburg!!................just my wicked sense of humour but the film was still great!
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Old 18th August 2016, 10:17
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BRAVO

She was the second Wilson Line vessel to bear this name.
Details below according to Wilson Line by John Harrower
Launched 06 February 1947
Completed June 1947
Builders Henry Robb Ltd., Leith
Engined Central Marine Works, West Hartlepool
Engine Details Triple expansion 3 cylinder engine & LP turbine with DR gearing & hydraulic coupling to screw shaft
Accommodation for 12 passengers
11 April 1959 ran aground at Murvik, Trondheimsfjord; re-floated by own means and proceeded to Trondheim with bottom damage for dry-docking
16 June 1962 put into Leixoes with fire in No. 1 hold; fire extinguished by shore fire brigade
02 October 1962 seriously damaged Norwegian vessel STORD when in collision near Bergen; damage to BRAVO not serious
16 May 1966 sold to Fairtide Ltd. of Rochester, Kent and renamed CONSTANTINE
1967 transferred to Maltese registry
1969 sold for demolition
18 August 1969 delivered to breakers at Bilbao
16 September 1969 demolition commenced by Teodor Fernandez, Bilbao

Health and Safety today would have a fit at what the Stevedores were wearing or not wearing!!!
The excellent film was 40 minutes 41 seconds long. Does anyone know what year it was filmed?
Any ideas on the below?
27 minutes and 30 seconds we see the “P” flag being raised – I joined my first ship as Deck Cadet on 01 October 1971 and remember that
27 minutes and 43 second 2nd Officer standing on the port bridge wing looking at his watch and blows his whistle to raise the “P” flag – I remember flags on City of Oxford(1972 and 1974) and at 0800 ALL flags were raised on the whistle (those were the days when we had sufficient man-power on deck!!!) Go back to 20 minutes 12 seconds and the Ensign was already up????
36 minutes and 31 seconds we see (I am assuming the fore mast with a lifeboat in the fore ground) on the outer starboard yard the “P” flag, inner port yard a burgee flag which I am guessing is meant to be the Wilson House Flag but even in black and white it does not look like a two swallow tailed burgee (Wilson’s flag was white with a red circle)and does not have the JRE Pennant above it – what flag is it?????? On the outer port yard looks like (even in black and white) the Swedish flag – yes she was heading for Gothenburg by the marks on the cargo but I have never known the flag of the country of the next port being flown at the previous port. If this is not the case what flag is it?
Many thanks Funnelstays for making the film available.
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Old 18th August 2016, 10:27
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It was made in 1950 mikekh.
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Re flying the next port flag. J.T. Waddelton in the Sydney in 69 always flew the Aussie flag when in Savannah last load port when on MANZ Run
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It was made in 1950 mikekh.
Thanks, John, for the information.
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Re flying the next port flag. J.T. Waddelton in the Sydney in 69 always flew the Aussie flag when in Savannah last load port when on MANZ Run
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Thanks, Alan, for that.
I only sailed with Two Fingered Jack on the Toronto from St. John to Halifax.
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Thanks, Alan, for that.
I only sailed with Two Fingered Jack on the Toronto from St. John to Halifax.
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There were occasions lads when you only needed two fingers to deal with Hull dockers and indeed any dockers.
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Old 18th August 2016, 11:51
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There were occasions lads when you only needed two fingers to deal with Hull dockers and indeed any dockers.
Yes, but Jack, lost his fingers in a goose-neck, when he was Chief Officer and the Indian Crew lowered the derrick back down.
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Could do with more of them sam2182sw
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Old 19th August 2016, 12:12
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Yes, but Jack, lost his fingers in a goose-neck, when he was Chief Officer and the Indian Crew lowered the derrick back down.
Poor bloke!
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There were occasions lads when you only needed two fingers to deal with Hull dockers and indeed any dockers.
Pretty shitty conditions working that coal and grain.
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Old 19th August 2016, 15:14
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Not an easy way to make a living admittedly. Still they were resourceful buggers when it came to giving the Tally Clerks the run around!
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Old 19th August 2016, 15:26
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It is easy to see why containers became the norm!
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Old 19th August 2016, 15:30
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Poor Bloke ! I was Third Mate with JT for 5 months. Not the best of Masters to get on with. Did a month or so with him as Second Mate and started to get him. Would have loved to sail with him as Mate. He came up through the " Hawse Pipe ".

As to the loss of the fingers on his right hand I did hear that it was a " White Crew " in a SAM boat and not an Indian crew. May be wrong.

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A good nostalgic film. Made in 1950. Those were the days!, not a Safety Officer in sight. I first saw it several years ago at the Hull Transport museum.
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Gaffer looks a bit like Lee Marvin - wouldn't want to argue with him.
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Casual Dock Labour

Lord Devlin’s Stage 1 brought about decasualisation in 1967, followed by Stage 2 in 1970 where each docker would work for a specific employer. One of the early morning pre-Devlin Calls I attended, as a Stevedore Superintendent in London’s Royal Docks, took place outside the Connaught public house. A gathering of labourers would line along the kerb edge, “on the stones” it was called, where a selection of men would be made by individual Foremen. The Casual system was a relic from the past in need of change.

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Agreed - and I consider myself a bit Right Wing.
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Agreed - and I consider myself a bit Right Wing.
And most of the selection process had more to do with how many pints the foreman had been given in the Connaught the night before, I'll wager!
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