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Old 24th October 2009, 15:25
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HMS Venomous - V & W Class Destroyer

My father served on HMS VENOMOUS and since I am a retired publisher I offered to publish a new edition of the little pocketbook written and self published by Bob Moore, the former CO of TS VENOMOUS in Loughborough.

Bob Moore died but the book has been completed by Captain John Rodgaard USN, a close personal friend of Bob's.

The new edition is twice the length of the first edition and has some 80 photographs PLUS a list of officers and ratings who served on VENOMOUS.

If you had a family member who served on HMS VENOMOUS please contact me urgently to check whether his name is included in the book (giving name, rank and dates of service where known).

It will be published on Wednesday 14 April 2010 and the book launch will be held at the Royal Navy Museum in Portsmouth.

Brief details:

A HARD FOUGHT SHIP: THE STORY OF HMS VENOMOUS
by Robert J Moore and John Rodgaard
Holywell House Publishing, 2010

If you would like further information about the book or if you had a family member who served on HMS VENOMOUS please send me a private message.

Bill Forster
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Old 15th November 2009, 18:45
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Dear Bill,

I believe my Grandfather George Speechley was on HMS Venomous at the time of Dunkirk, signals I believe. I if this is correct I can certainly recall some of the things he told me about it, if that would be helpful?

Chris Speechley

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Old 16th November 2009, 15:34
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My uncle served on HMS Venomous

My uncle (Fred Wharton) served on HMS Venomous, I remember a merchant seaman coming to Liverpool on rememberance sunday for years hoping to find men who served on her, he was rescued after being torpedoed from his ship (Which I cannot remember) and he said a sailor came over the side down the scramble nets and was pulling the men by the hair onto the net and one of them was Fred (Again I do not know if this is true) who was in trouble for going over the side as a U-Boat had been detected and the order was given to pull up the nets before he went over, when the two of them met it was tears and rum all afternoon. Can you please confirm he is listed on the crew list. Kind regards
Dr Philip Wharton
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My father served on HMS VENOMOUS and since I am a retired publisher I offered to publish a new edition of the little pocketbook written and self published by Bob Moore, the former CO of TS VENOMOUS in Loughborough.

Bob Moore died but the book has been completed by Captain John Rodgaard USN, a close personal friend of Bob's.

The new edition is twice the length of the first edition and has some 80 photographs PLUS a list of officers and ratings who served on VENOMOUS.

If you had a family member who served on HMS VENOMOUS please contact me urgently to check whether his name is included in the book (giving name, rank and dates of service where known).

It will be published on Wednesday 14 April 2010 and the book launch will be held at the Royal Navy Museum in Portsmouth.

Brief details:

A HARD FOUGHT SHIP: THE STORY OF HMS VENOMOUS
by Robert J Moore and John Rodgaard
Holywell House Publishing, 2010

If you would like further information about the book or if you had a family member who served on HMS VENOMOUS please send me a private message.

Bill Forster
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Lt(E) William Redvers Forster RNR
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Old 11th December 2009, 05:23
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My father, Robert Peafrson, served in her as a Mid in 1921
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Old 11th December 2009, 05:24
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Damn fingers! Pearson, not Peafrson...
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Old 27th December 2009, 17:49
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Quite a flurry of e-mails about my posting since I last looked!

It's time I posted an update about the book.

I am one chapter ahead of my designer in checking, rechecking & adding fresh material for the new edition. Including a wonderful album of photographs taken aboard VENOMOUS in 1940-1.

I have e-mailed those who posted above - please contact me asap.

The book will be three times the length of the first edition and have seven times as many illustrations plus maps.

The book launch will be held at the Royal Navy Museum in Portsmouth on the 14 May 2010 and friends & relatives of those who served on VENOMOUS will be welcome to attend.

More details on request - please e-mail me.

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Old 11th January 2010, 10:01
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HMS Venomous

Hello,
My Grandfather, Francis George Wilson, told me he served on HMS Venomous during WW2, he never really talked about it, but i beleive that the time he spent on this ship was one of the best times of his life. Unfortunately, he passed away in May 2004.
Since then i have been searching the net for information on HMS Venomous, just to see his name on the crew list and maybe find some photographs of him with his 'mates'.

Andrew Wilson.
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Old 14th February 2010, 22:32
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The book I am publishing about HMS VENOMOUS has to go to the printers in two weeks if it is to be ready for the launch in Portsmouth on the 14 April.

A list of those who served on VENOMOUS is included as an appendix.

The list of officers is pretty comprehensive as their names can easily be found in the Navy Lists.

There are no crew lists for ships in the Royal Navy and as a result the list of ratings is very incomplete. But I can still add names to this list if you e-mail me within the next two weeks.

After that I plan to update the list on a web site I am developing to update the book after it has been published.

If you have a relative who served on VENOMOUS and you would like his name included you should contact me right away. Ideally, I need: name, rank, position, dates of service.

Bill Forster
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Old 27th March 2010, 20:29
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REUNION OF OLD SHIPMATES AT BOOK LAUNCH FOR
“A HARD FOUGHT SHIP: THE STORY OF HMS VENOMOUS”

On the night of 11 November 1942 George Male, a sick berth attendant on HMS Hecla, on passage to the invasion beaches off Algeria was woken from sleep by a violent explosion as a torpedo struck the starboard hull. Four more quickly followed and as Hecla keeled over and began to sink he joined hundreds of his shipmates swimming for their lives or hanging onto overloaded Carley floats. HMS Marne, one of two escorting destroyers, rescued fifty men but then had its stern blown off

HMS Venomous, an elderly V & W Class destroyer built in 1919, was now their sole hope of rescue but during the course of a very long night it had to frequently break off from rescuing survivors to fight the U-boat lurking nearby hoping for another kill.

Nearly seventy years after the sinking of the Hecla George Male will meet some of the crew members of HMS Venomous, including Harry Haddon, who rescued him and 500 other survivors at the book launch for “A Hard Fought Ship: the story of HMS Venomous” on Wednesday 14 April at the RN Museum in Portsmouth.

The sinking of the Hecla is just one chapter in the story of HMS Venomous told in A Hard Fought ship. Sydney Compston, a gunner on Venomous when it rescued hundreds of exhausted troops from Dunkirk, and Stephen Barney, a Midshipman when it escorted the invasion force to Scilly in 1943, and Thomas “Yorkie” Russell, a stoker on Venomous when it was sent to Kristiansand in Norway in May 1945 to accept the surrender of German naval forces, will also be at the book launch.

The authors of A Hard Fought Ship are Robert J Moore, a former CO of TS Venomous, the Sea Cadet Corp Unit which keeps the name of Venomous alive long after it was scrapped, and his good friend, Captain John Rodgaard USN who took over when Bob Moore died two years ago. In his lecture at the book launch Captain Rodgaard will tell the story of the ship and show some of the 170 wartime photographs in the book. The families of many of those who served on Venomous will be there to meet the men who served alongside their fathers and grandfathers.

The lecture is being held in the Princess Royal Gallery of the RN Museum at the invitation of its Director, Graham Dobbin, at 12.00. If you would like to attend please e-mail [email protected] or phone 01727-838595.
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Old 27th May 2010, 19:52
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Hi Bill,
How did the launch go ?, I am gutted I missed it and my profound apologies for not replying to you sooner,in mitigation I have spent the last few months up to my neck in 'Flanders Mud', i am part of her majesty the queens team identifying soldiers from the first world war, it has been both tiring and somewhat emotional,we have also ben contacting family members both for dna samples and to inform them when we found a match.
I will also contact the gentleman you informed me about, I think I mentioned that his daughter contacted me, Thanks again.
Philip
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Old 28th May 2010, 16:23
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Well done in Flanders Doctor, it always seems a terrible shame that someone gave their life and there name is unknown.
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Old 28th May 2010, 20:52
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Launch of HMS VENOMOUS, "A HARD FOUGHT SHIP"

The book launch was a great success & a lot of fun.

Most of those attending were relatives of those who served on HMS VENOMOUS but some of the veterans were there as well:-

Sydney Compston, AB and Gunner in 1939-40
Harry Haddon, AB from 1942-3.
Midshipman Stephen Barney, 1943.
George Male, sick berth attendant on HMS HECLA when it was torpedoed on 11 November 1942.
Thomas "Yorkie" Russell, stocker from 1944-5

George Male, a survivor of HMS HECLA, met former AB Harry Haddon who was on VENOMOUS at the time. The Portsmouth News included almost a full page about the launch and it received loads of publicity elsewhere & is selling so well that a reprint may be needed (touch wood!) so if anybody reading this has photographs or additional information please do contact me by e-mail (or by sending a private message).

The book is dedicated to the memory of all those who served on HMS VENOMOUS between 1919-46 (including my father) and costs 18.99 but can be bought by mail order from the publisher (that's me!) for 12 plus p&p.

Bill Forster
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Old 5th August 2010, 17:55
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Following in the wake of HMS VENOMOUS on the web

I have set up a web site about HMS VENOMOUS, the V & W CLass destroyer on which my father served as Lt(E) in 1944-6.

Its aim is to update the list of officers and ratings who served on VENOMOUS given in:

A HARD FOUGHT SHIP: THE STORY OF HMS VENOMOUS
Robert J Moore & John A Rodgaard
Holywell House Publishing, April 2010

And to publish new material received since the book was published.

If you have a family member who served on VENOMOUS please check the web site to see that they are listed.

And if you have photographs, journals, diaries or letters written whilst they were serving on VENOMOUS please get in touch as it may be possible to publish this on the "WHAT'S NEW" section of the web site.

The web address is: http://www.holywellhousepublishing.co.uk/

I can be contacted by e-mail via the web site or via this Forum.

Bill Forster
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Old 5th August 2010, 18:53
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V&W's were some of the finest looking RN Destroyers, cant wait to get a copy of the book, well done
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Old 11th August 2010, 18:21
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Thanks, Paul.

Did a family member serve on VENOMOUS?

Or do you have associations with the RN?

The book was only published in April but I have already received quite a lot of new material from veterans in this country and overseas which I am publishing on the WHATS NEW pages of my web site at: http://www.holywellhousepublishing.co.uk/new.html

And I am hoping I shall hear from the families of those who served on VENOMOUS as a result.

Bill
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Old 11th August 2010, 19:05
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What a good piece of work this is.
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Old 9th November 2010, 22:11
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Armistice Day 1942 & Remembrance Sunday 2010

Do take another look at my web site on the eve of the anniversary of the sinking of HMS HECLA and the rescue of 500 survivors by HMS VENOMOUS.

See WHAT'S NEW at: www.holywellhousepublishing.co.uk

There is a lot more information and some wonderful new photographs of HMS HECLA provided by George Male and the grandson of Jabez Skelhorne, one of the unlucky ones who died after their rescue by VENOMOUS, and were buried at sea while en-route from Casablanca to Gibraltar.

And at last the full story of Warrant Officer Jimmie Button, the anti-submarine Boatswain who saved the lives of many of the survivors only to die himself as a result of is exertions, is told.

More than half of the 1,000 copies of A HARD FOUGHT SHIP I had printed have been sold.

A Hard Fought Ship: the story of HMS Venomous;
by R.J. Moore and J.A. Rodgaard.
Holywell House Publishing, 14 April 2010.
234x156 mm with 384 pp, 170 photographs and 12 maps and plans.
ISBN 978-0-9559382-0-7. Paperback, *18.99

It can be bought for 17 post free (cheaper than Amazon) in the UK from this web site, se; www.holywellhousepublishing.co.uk

Bill Forster

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Old 10th November 2010, 05:03
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Bill, you may like to repair the link to your site in the posting above. The bracket ( ] ) at the end is included making the link invalid.
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Old 21st February 2011, 19:42
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Service careers of officers on HMS VENOMOUS (1919-46)

The naval careers of the 138 officers who served on HMS VENOMOUS between launch in 1919 and scrapping in 1948 have been added to the unithistories.com web site.

There is a direct link to their service careers from the list of names at: http://www.holywellhousepublishing.co.uk/officers.html

If any names are missing or there are errors or omissions in their service careers please contact me via the web site or a personal message.

Bill Forster
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Old 13th September 2011, 10:18
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V & W Class Destroyers & the V & W Association

69 V & W Class destroyers were built at the end of WW1.

They were all scrapped at the end of WW2 but some of the men who served on them are alive & active today.

The V & W Association was formed in 1993 and publishes a magazine HARD LYING and holds a REUNION once a year. Relatives of those who served on V & Ws can join as Associate members.

Sadly, John Appleby, the longtime Secretary of the V & W Association, died on the 30 August aged 86.

John served on two V & Ws, HMS WIVERN and HMS VIVIEN.

A brief outline of his service career can be seen on the V & W Associations web page at: http://www.holywellhousepublishing.co.uk/V&W.html

He became a school teacher and ordained Minister and was much in demand at naval functions and at funerals of naval officers.

In addition to being Secretary of the V & W Association he was branch secretary of the Russian Convoy Club and chaplain to both the Burma Star Association and the Merchant Navy Association.

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Old 16th November 2012, 23:22
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I should have posted this on Armistice Day - but as the saying goes ...

The first torpedo struck HMS HECLA at 11 pm on the 11 November 1942.

If you have not looked at my web site about HMS HECLA recently you will notice quite a few changes and additions.

All the pages can be accessed by clicking on the links from this page: http://www.holywellhousepublishing.co.uk/HMS_Hecla.html

More than 500 lives were saved by HMS MARNE and HMS VENOMOUS when HECLA sank. Most of the survivors went on to raise families and live fulfilling and active lives. And some are still with us today.

Norman Johns is in good health though no longer running his chandlery and yacht rigging business and I spoke to Jim Clouton in Lancashire this afternoon but his good friend Ron Harris died three years ago. John Rodgaard who took over as lead author of A HARD FOUGHT SHIP when Bob Moore died, visited Les Proctor in Ottowa earlier this year. Fred Lemberg in New Zealand e-mailed me this week and although I have not heard from them for some time I believe Fred Woods and Les Mortimer are still with us in Australia.

Sadly, George Male, a Sick Berth Attendant on HECLA and one of the organisers of the reunions of the HECLA, MARNE AND VENOMOUS ASSOCIATION held between 1992 - 2003, died last month but Maurice Hudson who joined the Sick Bay Team on the Clyde in April 1941 has been in touch quite recently. Stan Juson was just month short of his 90 birthday when he died in January this year.

There were no reunion of veterans and their families but the children and grandchildren of the survivors have a lot to celebrate.

And I hope the book I published and the web site will keep memories of what happened on that long night alive for future generations.

If you have stories to tell about the HECLA or photographs do please get in touch.

Bill Forster
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Old 27th November 2012, 12:35
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HMS VENOMOUS & HMS HECLA in "WARSHIPS IFR"

There is an article by Captain John Rodgaard USN (Ret) in the December issue of "WARSHIPS" on the sinking of HMS HECLA by U-515 and the rescue of survivors by HMS VENOMOUS.

I bought my copy from the local branch of WH Smiths.

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Old 18th January 2016, 15:19
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Listen online to the veterans of V & W Class Destroyers

I have recorded interviews with the veterans at their annual reunions since 2013 and these can now be listened to online from a page on the web site of the V & W DESTROYER ASSOCIATION: http://www.vandwdestroyerassociation...ecordings.html

This year's Reunion of the men who served on V & W Class destroyers will be held at St Ives (near Cambridge) from Friday the 15 - Sunday 17 April (leaving on the Monday).

Join as an Associate Member and come to the Reunion to meet the veterans and find out what it was like to live and fight on the V & W's.

Further details of the Association and this year's Reunion can be seen on their web site: http://www.vandwdestroyerassociation..._ShipList.html

Work has began on telling the story of the 69 destroyers of the V & W Class: http://www.vandwdestroyerassociation..._ShipList.html

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Wind the clock forward a year and its time to let you know that the V & W DESTROYER ASSOCIATION will be meeting at Derby from 7 - 10th April.

For details of where we are staying & how to book see: http://www.vandwdestroyerassociation.org.uk/index.html

"The veteran members attending last year's reunion at St Ives in Lincolnshire were unanimous in deciding they wanted to return to Derby where they last met in 2010 for their reunion in 2017. As usual our Secretary, Vic Green, has investigated and arranged for us to stay at the Hallmark Hotel in Midland Road, over the weekend of Friday April 7th. to Monday April 10th. 2017. The cost - 99 per couple per night, 60 per single room. Sadly parking is extra at 8 per day but the hotel is about 200 yards from Derby railway station.

Book direct with the hotel which requires a 50 deposit stating V & W Destroyer Association. Rooms will be held for us until March 1st. 2017.
Address: Hallmark Hotel, Midland Road, Derby DE1 2SQ. Tel: 01332 345 894. Web address: http://www.hallmarkhotels.co.uk/hotels/derby-midland"

Only the veteran members (all in their 90s) can vote but family members can join (cost 5) and attend what will probably be the last meeting as it is proposed to wind up the meeting.

If that motion is passed the V & Ws will continue to sail through time and space on the WWW as long as I continue to edit the site.

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Old 26th July 2017, 21:49
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Please help me trace the families of the men in HMS VENOMOUS, the V & W Class destroyer which brought the Welsh and Irish Guards back from Boulogne on 23 May and made five trips to the beaches and North Mole at Dunkirk to bring back 4,100 troops and Generals Alexander and Percival?

Their names are on the crew list which can be seen here: http://www.holywellhousepublishing.c...May%201940.htm

I want to invite them to tell their family stories of Dunkirk on the website and in the book via online links.

To see how this works click here:
http://www.holywellhousepublishing.c.../Contents.html
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