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Old 11th November 2019, 17:38
gailacawthorne gailacawthorne is offline
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Capetown/durban castle/glenbeg

THANK YOU FOR MEMBERSHIP TO THIS FORUM;
I have been searching information on my father:

JOHN GORDON CAWTHORNE (RADIO OFFICER) WW2.
From memory he spoke of the:
THE CAPETOWN CASTLE..
THE DURBAN CASTLE.
THE GLENBEG...
Blue Funnel Line....Alfie Holt
The Glen Line.
Out of Liverpool......known ports only DURBAN SOUTH AFRICA
Can anybody help me please.???
Thank you
Gail
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Old 11th November 2019, 20:37
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Dear Gail, Welcome to a great mostly Merchant Navy\Marine site. You should receive more responses after this Memorial holiday weekend.
Radio Officers were certified and assigned to various vessels by Marconi and most were able to be considered Company Men thereby shipping out with the same company, and even the same ship, over and over.
Begin by looking up WWII Marconi Radio Officers and could possibly come up with an Association. Alfred Holt ( Blue Flu) has a group of all rating levels that meet at the old Corn Exchange Pub off Water St., Liverpool and should get help from them on line. If you scroll down on this site you will find most of the shipping companies you mention which have their own threads. Good luck and don't give up ! Keith Adams. aka "Snowy"
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Old 11th November 2019, 21:10
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Hope someone can help me on how to start a thread ... I have been an off and on member for 13 years and have only responded to enquirers but not know how to start one up. Have attempted today to reach a leader but unsuccessful.
I am dismayed that no one has a thread for this VERY special day, or am I blind ? Today is Rememberence/Veteran's Day throughout the World and although a holiday it seems to have lost its reverence.
We will have a service here at 3 pm today at City of Santa Clara, California
Veteran's Memorial. I mention this as it one of the very few in the entire United States that specifically includes The Merchant Marine in the services and has a permanent monument. I am taking the liberty to post the inscription there on :-
United States Merchant Marine

No cross marks the place
where we now lie
What happened is known to us
You asked and we gave our lives
to protect our land
from the enemy

No Flanders Fields
where poppies blow
No gleaming crosses
row and row
No un named tomb
for all to see
and pause and wonder
who might be

The sailors Valhalla
is where we lie
on the ocean bed
Watching our ships go by
sailing in safety
now through the waves
often right over
sea locked graves

We ask you just remember us
United States Merchant Marine

Most poetic verses not attributed to any one but obviously someone composed them ... be good to know who.
Anyway, I am really concerned history will repeat itself if we forget. "Snowy"
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Old 11th November 2019, 22:47
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Dear 'Snowy'
I replied via my email, so just in case you did not receive. Thank you so much for information.
Best regards
Gail Cawthorne
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Old 11th November 2019, 22:53
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Dear 'Snowy',

The poem brings home the truth of the matter.

I recently advised an alternative media site Unity News which was selling remembrance badges, that NOT ONE BADGE referred to any hero that was lost at sea. All depicted land based losses. Maybe next year we will see a change,

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Gail
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Old 11th November 2019, 23:59
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Hello and welcome,
I presume you don't have access to his discharge book? So to find out which ships he served in and when, you will need to obtain his CRS10 - service record beginning January 1941 - this should be held at the National Archives in Kew in piece BT 382/303
This file is best obtained by visit to Kew or via a researcher.

I have a second wireless officer John Cawthorne aged 19 in 1943 aboard the Belgian mv PRINSES MARIA PIA. Did he have a scar on right wrist and left cheek? Do you have his date and place of birth?

Edit* I will take a guess was he born in Leeds 25/5/1924? If so then he has a Seaman's Pouch held at Kew in piece BT 372/610/85 and a medal file in piece BT 395/1/15702

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Old 12th November 2019, 00:40
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Oh Hugh, this is such wonderful news.

I had to rack my brains with regards to the scars. But I think you are correct. To me, my father was perfect, no daughter could wish for a better one, so the scars were never significant just part of Dad.
Yes his birthday was 25 May 1924 born in Leeds.
He only applied for his medals in 1980. Since his death I have proudly worn them to the Remembrance Services on my right shoulder.
I shall be pursuing your references with such enthusiasm.

I did not know about the Belgian ship. I am sure I have much more to discover.

The love of ships, the sea and the history of our maritime nation is in the family blood ....we all sail.

Thank you so so much for bothering to look up his name,
What do you do, are you an ex-seaman or archivist? You seem to have a wealth of information at your fingertips.

My very best to you

Gail Cawthorne
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Old 12th November 2019, 00:55
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Hi Gail,
I am ex-Royal Navy and have sailed with the MN on their ships too. My dad was in the MN during the war so in researching him I put my knowledge to good use for anybody researching their maritime connections. Wear his medals with pride Gail, there is nothing more sure - he deserved them.

Regards
Hugh

ps if you can forward on your email address via a private message I will send on the PRINSES MARIA PIA crew list for you.
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