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Old 2nd June 2017, 15:56
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Just heard that Hms Queen Elizabeth will sail from Rosyth late June for 5 weeks trials. She will then return to Rosyth for two weeks dry docking for a full paint over. On completion of this she will sail for three months trials and then she will head to Portsmouth just before Christmas.

This comes from a friend of mine who is currently onboard the ship.

Hope this helps and clears up any mis-information that may already be out there.


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Old 2nd June 2017, 23:50
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Can someone explain to me why great expense has been lavished on the "Princess Royal" quay, and associated facilities, allowing both carriers to berth at the same time.
When it is well known that at least one will be laid up (in the second hand warship lot, around the back).
why did they not recover some of the !0 billion, or is it 20 billion overspend, lavished on this 'state of the art' facility (Though I would expect nothing less than state of the art, if it was brand new).
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Old 3rd June 2017, 11:19
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Can someone explain to me why great expense has been lavished on the "Princess Royal" quay, and associated facilities, allowing both carriers to berth at the same time.
When it is well known that at least one will be laid up (in the second hand warship lot, around the back).
why did they not recover some of the !0 billion, or is it 20 billion overspend, lavished on this 'state of the art' facility (Though I would expect nothing less than state of the art, if it was brand new).
Is the quay actually long enough for both? I thought it was built for only one at a time. I shall ask my friend.
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Old 3rd June 2017, 18:10
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Any aircraft for it yet or are they not bothering!!
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Old 3rd June 2017, 18:42
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Crew will be Croatian Officers with Philippine deck and engine ratings.
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Old 3rd June 2017, 18:43
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Old 3rd June 2017, 18:56
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Make a good gate guardian at Portsmouth.
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Old 3rd June 2017, 19:21
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date of departure is 21st .... exiting the basin at high water , then holding up river til the tide ebbs enough to allow her safe transit under the bridges, .... weather permitting of course. if she doesn't make it out on that date she has a further week to exit the basin before tidal conditions would keep her there for another couple of weeks.
11 tugs on the job , ... she's a big beastie !
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Old 3rd June 2017, 19:54
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Old 3rd June 2017, 19:57
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Surely we've got a couple of Fairy Swordfish bi-planes somewhere we could put aboard just to give a semblance ....
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Old 3rd June 2017, 20:40
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Old 4th June 2017, 04:14
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Old 4th June 2017, 07:45
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May I ask you to deploy all your positivity and explain in words of one syllable how these two Carriers will be manned, armed, operated and protected within a CBG.
I have yet to read a rational explanation, ignoring PM Gordon Brown, for these two warships.
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Don't worry there is always the unknown and that will surprise us.... Argentina for a start was not expected but we did manage it in the end.
Skyhawks!! et al.

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Old 4th June 2017, 08:20
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Indeed, the main reason for putting all your eggs in one basket is that you can muddle throu when the sh1t hits the fan.
The Argies will certainly think twice when confronted with a carrier with no aircraft, few escorts and, dare I say it, not many boots to put on the ground.
I say Biggles are the V Bombers still flying?
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Old 4th June 2017, 17:54
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The other thing to remember the really good part of the Argentine Army remained where it was needed mos, on the Chilean border......

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Old 5th June 2017, 02:48
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No taxpaying member should be happy about having aircraft carriers with no planes and, nuclear submarines armed with nuclear missiles that need foreign permission to launch. It is just too big a financial burden to carry. Get rid of Trident and put the savings into a carrier group equipped with suitable a/c and you will have a better deterrent than the big T. Plus, you will have the only European navy with the muscle to project power around the European perimeter. They will be knocking at your door, seeking military cooperation and, who knows, maybe a real 'common market."
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Old 6th June 2017, 00:28
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Really disappointed with the real poor responses on her people.. stop being negative and racist !!!
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ITV news doing a live feed on their facebook page of her sailing. She has approached the bridge once, but they have now turned her around waiting for the tide to drop ! https://www.facebook.com/itvnews/vid...type=2&theater
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Old 26th June 2017, 18:38
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Surely to god they can work out an air draft.
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Old 26th June 2017, 18:52
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It's now anchored until midnight ! Doh !
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Good looking vessel though
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Old 26th June 2017, 20:49
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Can't help thinking that these are too large and will be difficult to protect, even if we had the manpower and escort vessels available. Always thought the illustrious class were the right size. There again, what do I know about warships!
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Old 26th June 2017, 22:11
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Crickey there are some gloom mongers out there. I can assist with a few queries. Both carriers are scheduled to initially come into service, as an aside Prince of Wales is also way ahead of her build schedule. ultimately they will operate together, one possibly reverting to commando / support role while other adopts readiness strike carrier. As the refit cycle starts then we will see independent operations, much like Ark Royal and Eagle during the 60's.
The strike aircraft are still working up with a slow build rate, so we will not see 809 , 892 or RAF squadrons fully operating from her until 2020. However all other aircraft will ( Merlin, Wildcat, Chinook, Apache, and foreign flights. ) It is expected that the USMC will operate F35 from her in 2018 when she deploys in the Atlantic. this will be the start of full air operations. The new facilities at Portsmouth, for the first time combine workshops, berths and crew accommodation in one area, thus making the whole operation of the carriers more efficient. no more walking a mile around the basin from workshops. Manpower is up to strength, the return of Ocean has helped. However the main bulk of crew have been on-board or in Rosyth for a considerable time, her manning is lean with only about 680 crew. As for size, she is big however she requires the same amount of protection as any other carrier, being Illustrious or Nimitz. without doubt she will operate with a destroyer and other escorts as did the CVS with type 42's & 22/23's, the difference being her sensors and escorts are far more capable. This is the start of the resurgence of the RN returning to being a credible naval power, we have relied on carriers in the past and now with dwindling friendly territories the need is far greater if we are going to assist our allies and those in need. You never know what is around the corner, having a floating airbase and control centre anywhere in the world is a strategic necessity. as another aside we have full command over our nuclear submarines and full launch capability over the missiles within. The only foreign link is that the rocket bodies are serviced in America.
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Old 26th June 2017, 22:26
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Bloody good show 86. That put the old British surrender monkeys in their box. Good to hear the old Andrew is in spiffing form and ready to give assorted foreign johnnies a biff. Have you told the Second Sea Lord. One hopes the IEP system can spin as freely as the MOD/RN.
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