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HMS AMBUSH collision in Gibraltar

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Old 21st July 2016, 00:32
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HMS AMBUSH collision in Gibraltar

AMBUSH made contact with an oil tanker whilst surfacing off Gibraltar yesterday, sustaining damage to the upper fore part of the fin. Pictures can be seen at the following link:

http://chronicle.gi/2016/07/collisio...-in-gibraltar/

I suspect one or two of her officers will be looking for a new job soon.
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Old 21st July 2016, 07:20
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Was only a "glancing blow"!!! Could happen to anybody.
Maybe they should have retractable conning towers together with periscope.
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Old 21st July 2016, 10:09
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Perisher perished.
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Old 23rd July 2016, 06:05
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A similar event happened around 1974 with RFA Grey Rover and the Canadian submarine HMCS Okenagan. Grey Rover was the target “mouse” off Faslane and the Okenagan was under training. Rover class had a variable pitch propellor, the Okenagan had been counting the propeller revs, not realising that the revs did not indicate movement. Result surfacing under the Grey Rover and damaging the conning tower.

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Old 23rd July 2016, 08:09
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Perisher perished.
Did anyone watch those 'perisher' documentaries on the training of submarine commanders ? Pretty gruesome stuff. You'd have to want the job very badly to subject yourself to that.
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I remember an incident cira 1976 when transiting Straits we were shadowed by a Royal Navy ship. When contacted on VHF they said that they had intelligence that a Russian submarine was under us using us to hide their propeller signature. Maybe considering the size of the tanker the RN have copied Russian tactics.
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Old 23rd July 2016, 08:26
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My manager of the company was one of the first australian class to pass the perisher course. If I remember properly, submarines could only surface during an exercise on a compass cardial direction (nth, sth, east, west) . Shipping in the area had to steam off the Cardinal direction to reduce to chance of surfacing under or in the path of shipping.
Its starting to go to far back to remember!
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Old 23rd July 2016, 09:29
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I remember a similar incident in the North Channel in 1969 where a coaster on passage from Larne to Ardrossan?? struck a semi submerged object in bad weather in the middle of the night. Immediately after the impact the master of the coaster reported seeing something (thought to be a fishing vessel at the time) disappearing under the stern. The coaster suffered damage to her propeller and returned to port. A search and rescue operation was launched, involving ships, lifeboats. helicopters, warships and a Shackleton Aircraft, the operation lasted for days but, nothing was found. The Admiralty announced sometime later, weeks? or more that it was one of their submarines that was involved in the collision. Bruce.
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Did anyone watch those 'perisher' documentaries on the training of submarine commanders ? Pretty gruesome stuff. You'd have to want the job very badly to subject yourself to that.
And who said men could only do one thing at a time. If memory serves if you failed the course you were dismissed the service.
As an aside, in small craft, when sailing in submarine exercise areas it is suggested you leave your depth sounder running.
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And who said men could only do one thing at a time. If memory serves if you failed the course you were dismissed the service.
As an aside, in small craft, when sailing in submarine exercise areas it is suggested you leave your depth sounder running.
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Sent to skimmers, not dismissed the service per se.
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Old 28th July 2016, 05:11
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Submariners called surface shipping "targets"
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Old 28th July 2016, 18:33
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A similar event happened around 1974 with RFA Grey Rover and the Canadian submarine HMCS Okenagan. Grey Rover was the target “mouse” off Faslane and the Okenagan was under training. Rover class had a variable pitch propellor, the Okenagan had been counting the propeller revs, not realising that the revs did not indicate movement. Result surfacing under the Grey Rover and damaging the conning tower.

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This incident took place on 28 July 1973.

Here is a photo of the damage to Okanagan's fin:

http://www.forposterityssake.ca/JPGs...AN/OKA0015.jpg
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Old 28th July 2016, 20:59
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Thank you Scatari
There we “Trophy” bits of the conning tower on Grey Rover.

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