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Dunelmia - SD14. 1971 or 1977 vessel?

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Old 7th March 2007, 16:12
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Folks:
On the British Merchant Navy site there has recently appeared a photo of an SD14 - Dunelmia of Metcalfe's:

http://www.merchant-navy.net/Pictures/dunelmia.html

Could anyone familiar with the nuances of the development of that design say if she is the 1971 or the 1977 vessel?? It looks to me like an earlier vessel in the series but there are so many detail differences in individual ships that I'd care not to be too dogmatic.

1971 vessel:
Built as DUNELMIA - then: ARDENHALL, MOOLCHAND, MASHCO STAR, DELTA II. 1993/SCRAPPED Mumbai 22 Sept 1993

1977 vessel:
Also sailed as: NEW PANDA, TRADE FORTUNE, TRADE FAIR, HALLDOR, MASHCO STAR

It does seem very unlikely though that BOTH vessels had TWO common names??

Cheers, Geoff
This is definately the 1971 vessel, I sailed on her in 1974/5 The picture on merchant Navy site is the one I posted, which was given me by Denholms
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Old 17th March 2007, 00:44
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Sad to hear about JJ Rose as you say he was a gentleman but I think he was not in the best of health when I sailed with him, see post JJ Denholm, Troll Park.

I remember some of lost relatives of his coming to see him in Halifax and them not recognising each other.

Sorry not really Dunelmia but forgive intrusion

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Old 24th March 2007, 16:54
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Hi terry, I was Galley boy on the Nov 74-Mar75 trip Liverpool- South Africa
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Old 21st June 2007, 10:04
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Thumbs up Dunelmia

Greetings Alan. Nice to see your input on that trip. I was Mate. Do you remember the dolphins on a mating spree off Port Elizabeth? Or the sudden gale we had when most of the ships dragged their anchors? Or the 40 gallon drum of Castle Lager dumps we had to throw overboard in the gulf? As you say it was a great trip particularly as we found a lot of air rifles in open stow.
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Old 23rd July 2007, 20:44
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Hello Terry, nice to hear from you, I do seem to remember yourself and Capt Stewart firing the air rifles on the bridge at sea. Can you remember on the homeward journey in the bay of Biscay when the deck hands had to jettison all of the gas canisters which were lashed to the foc'sle, in a force 9, it was St patrick's day and all of the scouse EDH's were pissed. Best wishes Alan Marshall
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Old 28th July 2007, 12:23
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I sailed with Capt J J Rose on the Inverewe for 8 months running up the Great lakes in 65.He was a nice old guy but a bit eccentric. Chippie had to hide his tools as JJ would nick them to do jobs about the ship.
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I remember those gas canisters alright - I was the Sparks on that trip who had to put out a nav warning when hundreds of 'em went overboard in Biscay. I remember the seas coming over the foc'sle and lifting the empty canisters up and eventually out of their lashings.
Mind you it could have been a lot worse. We were originally supposed to carry a deck cargo of live zebra's and a couple of handlers from Walvis Bay to Hamburg Zoo, but it was called off at the last minute, so I think the gas canisters were a substitute. I could have been transmitting a nav warning to beware of swimming zebra's!

Jeez! - Do you know, that was almost 34 years ago?

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Greetings Alfalfa and a warm welcome to SN. Enjoy the site and all that goes with it. Bon voyage.
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Ahoy,
I recently got a few hundred SD-14's[photos/data],and just passing by this one,but still a huge amount to go.
DUNELMIA [1]
1969 Order to built a SD-14 by owner Metcalfe,Son & Co.-Hartlepool
Lloydsnumber:7038599
Build:1971
Wharf:Austin & Pickersgill Ltd[Southwick Shipyard]-Sunderland
Build nr:[871]
Type: Tweendecker[general cargo]
Build as DUNELMIA[1]
Owner/Manager:Metcalfe Shipping Co.Ltd-Hartlepool
P.o.R.:Hartlepool
Flag:GB
LOA:141 x 20,48 x 8,86 mtrs
Tons: 9177 BRT-6171NRT-15149DWT
Launched on 30-11-1970
Eng.:2SA 5Cy.Sulzer 7500bhp-5595kW[George Clark & N.E.M. Ltd.]
Spd.:14 knots
Delivered:12-03-1971
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1...deriessgj0.jpg

©J.H.Anderiesse
History:
1973 Whilst underway from Durban to Japan,fire in engineroom,the DUNELMIA went to Hong Kong for repair,where she arrived on 25-9-1973
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1976 ARDENHALL
Owner:West Hartlepool Steam Navigation Co.Ltd.
Same P.o.R./Flag
Manager:Metcalfe
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7...unelmiaty8.jpg

©J.H.Anderiesse
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1981 MOOLCHAND
Owner: Cross Point Shipping Corp.-Monrovia
P.o.R./Flag:Panama
Manager:SL Sethia Liners Ltd.-London
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3...unelmiagi3.jpg

©L.Bosschaart
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1986 MOOLCHAND
Owner: Cross Point Shipping Corp.-Monrovia
P.o.R./Flag:Panama
Manager:Aris Ship Management-London
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1987 MOOLCHAND
Owner: Cross Point Shipping Corp.-Monrovia
P.o.R./Flag:Panama
Manager: Nerofleet Ltd.-London
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1989 MASCHO STAR
Owner:Marsay Shipping Corp-Monrovia
P.o.R./Flag: Panama
Manager:Nerofleet Ltd.-London
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1992 DELTA II
Owner/Manager Delta One-Dubai
P.o.R.:Kingston
Flag:St.Vincent & Grenadines
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1993 On voyage from Jubail to Madras,after severe weather condition,water entered in the engineroom,and she forced to drop ancher on 7-8-1993 near Bombay roads.
The DELTA II was decleared total-loss and sold to a local shipbreaker,and was beached on 22-9-1993 at Bombay and scrapped.

Hope this helps,and will post some more SD-14's soon as I'm finished scanning all that stuff.
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This was a head banger to resolve.
The dilemma of witch photo on http://www.merchant-navy.net/Pictures/dunelmia.html was the 1971 build had me a wee bit worried. Even though I bought the photo while I was working on her (01/04/75 – 16/07/75) I still downloaded Alan’s photo to my album just in case I had the wrong one.
But Ruud as found the answer
The clues are: The Derricks and the Panama lead at the Shoulder.
The first picture of Ruud's is DUNELMIA 1971 build, shows the Panama lead, and again as ARDENHALL the lead is shown.
As the MOOLCHAND the Derricks of number one,two and four hatches are housed with a downward slope.
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Old 27th May 2008, 11:22
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The vessel in your photo differs from Ruud`s by a couple of small details I can see. Lifeboats carried one deck lower & `jumbo` derricks & heavy mast would appear to be reversed, there may well be other pointers I`ve missed. I hope this helps you out in some way.
Rgds,
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Old 27th May 2008, 13:07
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Sorry David but can’t see it. Lifeboats are level with navigation lights on wing of bridge. Alan’s photo has them lower. Jumbos aft of masts forward ends of two and four hatches
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Old 27th May 2008, 16:26
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There were two vessels of that name, both SD14`s built in for Metcalfe`s, one in 1971 of 9177 gt, and the other in 1977 of 9346 gt. I feel the upper one in your shots was the `71 built. I still stand by the comments I made at #36, I just hope this is not confusing the issue.
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Old 27th May 2008, 19:37
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No problem David debate makes the world go round.
Just can’t see these two vessels being the same ship
https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galler...hp?photo=42685
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3...unelmiagi3.jpg
http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/show/113026
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Old 17th July 2008, 22:54
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HI, I sailed on the Dunelmia twice in the 70s. joined her in porto cabello at anchor dec 78, she had sailed from japan and we were at anchor for about 3 weeks waiting for a berth. I am certain this is the ship i was on and it is the 77 build,
http://www.merchant-navy.net/Pictures/dunelmia.html

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Hi lads i am looking for a photo of the old Dunelmia 1952 for a book i am writing i was working on her in the dry dock in Hull it was at the time that J.F.KENNEDY was shot can any of you help sam2182sw
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I've sent you a PM Sam with a couple of links to pictures of the one you want.
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