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Old 22nd January 2017, 12:57
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As for 'Tally Clerks', I never heard that name, they were 'Checkers' in Liverpool as far as I can remember, although they did exactly that, tally cargo.
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Sorry only just read this Pat,you`re quite correct,it was down the West Coast that they were called Tally Clerks,it was as you say Checkers in Liverpool
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Old 22nd January 2017, 15:05
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.Alan a small world the tally clerk you recall was a man called Johnny Lawrenson he lived around the corner from my wife I knew his oldest son Kenny very well his father lost his arm from above the wrist in the fifties when retrieving a wire sling while discharging heavy logs from the deck of a monkey boat,I recall every ship homeward bound carried this as deck cargo,mahogny I think,I sailed with palm and Elders,Johnny had a false hand which he clipped a board to.KYPROS
Sorry about the time lapse Kypros but I`ve only just picked this up,yes that`s right he had a specially adapted artifiicial arm with a clip attached to it.He was a lovely patient man dealing with a 16 year okld who was more interested in getting on board all the assorted ships that were toing and froing and see what went on aboard.Booker Viking,Booker Valiant a couple of Spanish boats that came in during my time down there.In fact it was looking down the galley of a Spanish boat and seeing sardines grilling on a hot plate that first sparked my interest in the galley and resulted in my changing my department after 18 months and winding up a Purser/Catering Officer later.
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and Bookers
and Moss Hutchisons and Harrisons
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Old 25th January 2017, 13:18
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Garston dock,I joined the Tilapa.Nicoya,and the Chirapo,Elders and Fyffes skin boats as they were called,but the oddest ship I joined there was the little Torwood capt John Mc Gann 260tons of her and tho she was as I have posted before bereft of comforts and a cow to steer she was my happiest ship.I often look over the river from Eastham when we are walking our dog and wish that a skin boat or any of the coasters ,Kelleys.Savages.etc loaded with coal to some of the great little Irish ports would steam up the Mersey to the Garston ah dream on but I will never forget the most southern dock on the river not often mentioned when Liverpool docks are talked about.
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Sorry only just read this Pat,you`re quite correct,it was down the West Coast that they were called Tally Clerks,it was as you say Checkers in Liverpool
Tally Clerks in London
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Old 26th January 2017, 15:36
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Joined my first ED ship "Shonga" in Toxteth Dock 1965
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Old 27th January 2017, 07:45
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When arriving in Gladstone Dock at the end of a voyage (Australia) I remember that we were mostly issued with Channel Money, 5 which was ample at the time, prior to paying off at the shipping office in Birkenhead the following day.
A man with a Horse and cart used to come down to the ship and for a small fee collect and deliver the crew's luggage to the left luggage at appropriate stations. I think it was O'Neils ?? and was a family concern. With the Channel Money one would be able to have a night on the town and retire to one of the hostelries before going over to Birkenhead in the morning, We normally met in a pub up on the right hand side of Woodside Square and socialise until paying off time. Bruce.
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Old 27th January 2017, 08:32
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The Pier Hotel? The Parrot House?

Both long-since closed as pubs but happily still standing.

The Pier Hotel houses some offices (HMRC, I think).

The Parrot House has been standing empty for twenty years or more, as far as I can recall. Any takers?
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Old 27th January 2017, 10:37
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Birkenhead side!

Talking old buildings - does anyone have memories of the Pier dancehall at New Brighton? I think it burned down. Then the Bank Line guys joined ships in Bromboro Dock. I know it's filled in now, but would love to hear from anyone who recalls the events and timing when it ceased to be a discharging dock for Copra etc. .....
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Old 28th January 2017, 07:56
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I think it was the Pier Hotel Barrie, Thanks. Bruce.
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Old 28th January 2017, 15:11
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I also forgot one of the most distinctive coasters John Monks out of the Garston I sailed on two of them one of them was the old Savages coaster the Hazelfield on which I did my first trip,some great tales about Monks one that was true they were tight b""""arcs.
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Old 28th January 2017, 19:28
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Talking old buildings - does anyone have memories of the Pier dancehall at New Brighton? I think it burned down. Then the Bank Line guys joined ships in Bromboro Dock. I know it's filled in now, but would love to hear from anyone who recalls the events and timing when it ceased to be a discharging dock for Copra etc. .....
That would be The Tower Ballroom in New Brighton. It was a huge building with a gigantic ballroom, several bars, amusement arcades, a restaurant and hosted most of the 60s pop groups.
In my youth, it was the place to go on a Saturday night for drinking, dancing, watching big acts like the Beatles and Billy J Kramer, The Rolling Stones, and most of all, pulling the birds!
It burned down in 1969 much to the despair of all the local young bloods.

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I also forgot one of the most distinctive coasters John Monks out of the Garston I sailed on two of them one of them was the old Savages coaster the Hazelfield on which I did my first trip,some great tales about Monks one that was true they were tight b""""arcs.
Monk's boats looked horrible Tom, everything was painted sh1t brown or black and it comes as no surprise to learn the owners were tightarsed.
I sailed out of Garston in the Firth Fisher, on the same trade, coal to Ireland. She was a submarine, dived at Liverpool Bar and surfaced in Belfast Lough!
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Old 28th January 2017, 19:39
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That would be The Tower Ballroom in New Brighton. It was a huge building with a gigantic ballroom, several bars, amusement arcades, a restaurant and hosted most of the 60s pop groups.
In my youth, it was the place to go on a Saturday night for drinking, dancing, watching big acts like the Beatles and Billy J Kramer, The Rolling Stones, and most of all, pulling the birds!
It burned down in 1969 much to the despair of all the local young bloods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MQ92PberJ8

Brilliant - pure nostalgia that bit! Thank you. Joined the Ernebank 1953 and we all trooped over to the Tower Ballroom where I was convinced I was on the wrong planet and definitely in the wrong job. It was as you describe, but there was a balcony with dim lights as I remember, where dozens of couples were glued together on the stairways and up on the balcony, so that we had to step over the bodies. The ' swinging sixties' were yet to arrive as well!
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Quite the most pleasant visit that I have ever paid to Liverpool Docks was this afternoon, to the old rum warehouse on the north side of Stanley Dock. It is now re-developed as the Titanic Hotel.

As a birthday treat, my wife and I were taken by our elder daughter for afternoon tea, which was both excellent and faultless. Not having previously been inside the building, it was most interestng to see its construction, which has been preserved intact (or so it would appear).
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I joined Elders in Sept 1953, was appointed to the "Sangara", but until she sailed was sent to Toxteth dock to learn how to "tally" I think they called it.
I`m not sure but I think the chap who took me under his wing was called "Hughie Small" - he was pretty short too.
Some of the stuff delivered to the docks in those days came by horse drawn transport - the game the dockers played was to pile a stack of spirit cases up pretty precariously and then put something enticing to horses on the top most case, in the hopes it could be induced to knock a box over from high level and of course break a few of the contents - never saw it work.
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[QUOTE=Pat Kennedy;2353873]That would be The Tower Ballroom in New Brighton. It was a huge building with a gigantic ballroom, several bars, amusement arcades, a restaurant and hosted most of the 60s pop groups.
In my youth, it was the place to go on a Saturday night for drinking, dancing, watching big acts like the Beatles and Billy J Kramer, The Rolling Stones, and most of all, pulling the birds!
It burned down in 1969 much to the despair of all the local young bloods.

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I spotted this beautiful lass at the Tower and said to myself she is the one for me and we married in 1959 and had 7 wonderful years together before she passed away.I was on the Empire Hallandale in the bidston dock,I took her home on the last bus from the pier head to Huyton and missed the last bus back,believe me it's a long walk back got to the tunnel in those days a night bus went thro to Birkenhead and then a walk to Bidston dock thank god it wasn't raining,Margaret and I often talked about that first night happy memories she was taken from me far too soon.
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Old 1st February 2017, 20:02
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That would be The Tower Ballroom in New Brighton. It was a huge building with a gigantic ballroom, several bars, amusement arcades, a restaurant and hosted most of the 60s pop groups.
In my youth, it was the place to go on a Saturday night for drinking, dancing, watching big acts like the Beatles and Billy J Kramer, The Rolling Stones, and most of all, pulling the birds!
It burned down in 1969 much to the despair of all the local young bloods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MQ92PberJ8[/QUOT
I spotted this beautiful lass at the Tower and said to myself she is the one for me and we married in 1959 and had 7 wonderful years together before she passed away.I was on the Empire Hallandale in the bidston dock,I took her home on the last bus from the pier head to Huyton and missed the last bus back,believe me it's a long walk back got to the tunnel in those days a night bus went thro to Birkenhead and then a walk to Bidston dock thank god it wasn't raining,Margaret and I often talked about that first night happy memories she was taken from me far too soon.
I met my wife to be in the Grafton, Tom, and like you I missed the last bus from where she lived in West Derby. A hell of a hike to the Tunnel entrance, and then I got a lift home by a bloke who turned out to be Mick Meagan, the Everton and Eire right back.
I had 23 wonderful years and 3 kids with Pam before she passed away in 1990.
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often missed the last bus from the western approaches croxteth and had to walk back to kensington,then an early call from my dad to get back to odessy working bye untill ready to be told which ship next always glad to sail to get a rest ...
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