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Old 11th December 2005, 22:14
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Smile Houlders Ore Carriers

Oregis, Orelia, Oremina, Orepton, Oreridian & Oreosa. Sailed on four of these, b-----s in bad weather rolled like hell especially with a belly of Iron ore.

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Old 11th December 2005, 22:29
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Oregis

Only sailed on the one - OREGIS - 1966/67. Going round North Cape and having the Captain turn the radar off during a blizzard (for no logical reason other than he had the key and was in charge) was "interesting".
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Old 12th December 2005, 07:55
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Probably saw you in Santa Portalbot as sailed on most of the Denholm ore boats
in the 60's. Ah the joys of Margam Wharf.

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Old 12th December 2005, 09:47
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Question ore carrier

sailed on the DUKESGARTH (ore carrier/ tramper) early 70s cant remember the company?
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Old 12th December 2005, 10:33
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Life history of All the B.I.S.C. ore carriers (The Iron Ladies) is given in Records 23, 24, & 25 0f Ships in Focus. Makes interesting reading.
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Old 12th December 2005, 13:37
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DUKESGARTH, MONKSGARTH, QUEENSGARTH, KNIGHTSGARTH (?) all belonged to Cory. Regulars on the Clyde with ore and even after they went to Greeks as DAPO ships.
Pic of QUEENSGARTH in Ore Carriers Forum.
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Old 12th December 2005, 18:17
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BISCO Submarines when on the Sept Isles run, only bridge and aft accomodation above water.
On the Rievaulx did 3 trips Glasgow Sept Isles, 20 hours in Glasgow then 1Hr 50 minutes loading at Sept Isles. Followed by a trip to Port Elizabeth, 2 weeks loading by hand. least we got a run ashore.
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Only sailed on the one - OREGIS - 1966/67. Going round North Cape and having the Captain turn the radar off during a blizzard (for no logical reason other than he had the key and was in charge) was "interesting".
Maybe the same old man who only appeared after his first bottle of gin.
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Old 13th December 2005, 19:53
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Probably saw you in Santa Portalbot as sailed on most of the Denholm ore boats
in the 60's. Ah the joys of Margam Wharf.

JC
Memories are fond of Port Talbot (well the local pubs and one crumy nightclub who's name alludes me).
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BISCO Submarines when on the Sept Isles run, only bridge and aft accomodation above water.
On the Rievaulx did 3 trips Glasgow Sept Isles, 20 hours in Glasgow then 1Hr 50 minutes loading at Sept Isles. Followed by a trip to Port Elizabeth, 2 weeks loading by hand. least we got a run ashore.
Yes Baltic Wal, that's absolutely correct - the Seven Islands loading in 60 minutes was a thing to remember - amazing stuff. You needed a trip to Vitoria or Port Elizabeth after that one.

As for the Port Talbot Pub... maybe "Walnut Tree" or something similar, but the night club, that name is a distant memory that escapes me too.
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Old 13th December 2005, 23:52
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i think the name of the night club in port talbot was the carlton
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Well done Peter, it was indeed The Carlton Club. It was run by Bryn Thomas and apparently the first night club licence in the country to be granted outside London. Specialised in Folk Music and I remember a "Peter, Paul & Mary" act playing there regularly. All I can remember was fancying Mary - which was just as well really given the alternatives....
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All this talk about 'Port Talbot' brings back great memories from 30 + years ago. The 'Walnut' rings a loud bell, memories of some good Chinese Resturants, Margam Abbey steelworks and most importantly 'my first love'.
Those were certainly the days!
Does anyone remember a S Wales bosun by the name of Dennis Ahearn who served on sveral of the PT ore carriers
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Life history of All the B.I.S.C. ore carriers (The Iron Ladies) is given in Records 23, 24, & 25 0f Ships in Focus. Makes interesting reading.
Donald
Where can I find Ships in Focus? I did one trip on the Iron Horse.Talk of Sept Isles and rolling has brought back memories which for 30 odd years had been lost in the deep subconscious. For good reason....
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Ah , what memories indeed.

The walnut is well remembered, also the Grand hotel which was nearest to Margam
and once you had crossed the railway lines served as a first stop and then the
last stop at the end of the evening.
There was also the "Lamb and flag"commonly known as the lamb and tit and a couple
of dubious watering holes on the way down to the "beach".

Remember all the laybys just inside the locks which after the neaps used to be well occupied.

Still got some photos of Santa Portalbot in the hey days which I can post if
anyone interested. (Don't all rush to your keyboards).

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you lucky people you just visited port talbot think of us old salts who live there so much smoke from the steel works even the birds cough and the grand is still there
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"Ships in Focus" can be ordered from J. & M. Clarkson in Preston. Give them a ring on 01772 612855.
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Old 14th December 2005, 19:31
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Crinan, Naess Trader, Sir Andrew Duncan, Ormsary in the 60's!! Happy memories of a memorable era.

Port Talbot - Red House!
Narvick
Seven Islands - Who could forget Sept Iles?
Pepel
Monrovia
Workington - Lovely memories - Cannot remeber the favourite drinking den!
Newport
Sagunto
Alicante - before the arrival of toursists, when a 'Cubalibre' cost pennies!!
Etc, etc.

John Cassells, I remember very well aand have fond memories of the old cacet vessel 'Crinan' - Well mostly fond, with the exception of one sadistic Instructor who will remain nameless!!

First Trip Cadets

Hamish Mackay
Syd Catto
Derek Wickins
John Jackson
Sam Brown
John Cassels
Frank Brown
Gavin Brownlie
John Gatherer
Stewart Cameron
Rodney Holroyd
Hamish MacKay

How am I doing? I have missed one!! Does anyone know what happened to my old pal Syd Catto

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The Grand Hotel and the Walnut tree are the two I best remember especially when they erupted at closing time, still can't remember the nightclub only getting rooked playing roulette.

Was it the Commercial Hotel near the station in Workington I know the beer was Robert Peel, and as we got on well with the barmaid we pretended to be residents and got a lock in.

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Was it the Commercial Hotel near the station in Workington I know the beer was Robert Peel, and as we got on well with the barmaid we pretended to be residents and got a lock in.

Afraid the Commercial is just a derelict building at the moment. Did you never use the Coastguard or the Steam Packet? they were the closest two pubs to the dock, the former was open 24/7, but unfortunatly was closed down a few years ago when a brawl occurred between two Scandiwegian crews. The barmaid tried to control things by brandishing a gun, which someone had given her years earlier and she had believed was a replica ('onest yer honer) the gun when off, blowing a neat hole in the ceiling and upsetting the local constabulary. With the result that the barmaid got a job serving porridge for a wee while and the pub was closed down and is now a private house. Shame!!
The Steam Packet is still going strong, but has been renamed by the locals as the Fag Packet due to the clientels preference for "uphill gardening"

John Peel for the beer, Robert was the guy that started the aforemention constabulary.

The ore days at Workington are finished, the steel works are being shut down, the coal trade has finished completely as well, virtually the only seaborne traffic now is tankers. The local council are at present considering closing the docks and turning the place into yet another marina.
Such is life!!

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Old 15th December 2005, 12:19
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Roddy old pal,

Think you mead Sid(Sandy) CATHRO,

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Old 15th December 2005, 19:15
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Roddy.me again,

How could you miss Kirkeness. Don't you remember our 4th trip on the Crinan ?.
Still got photos of you with the whole crowd on the poop , in fact have lots of
them - on our very first ship.

The "sadistic" instructor.......... I got to know quite well afterwards. Maybe he
mellowed with age !!!!!.

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Old 15th December 2005, 23:00
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Thanks Razor I thought I had got it wrong still pickled from the stuff. We always seemed to go to the commercial as we got the lock ins.
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I know I got chucked out of a pub in Costa del Workington for explaining to the Landlord our cargo - Australian coal transhipped from Rotterdam. Spent the rest of the night at the Coastguard.
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