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Old 29th September 2005, 14:36
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Another few for the list and these are only the ones I sailed on;

Naess Cavalier 1965
Naess Pioneer 1969
Naess Talisman 1968
Jersey Bridge 1970
Baknes 1970
Clarkeden 1972

Morar was the free pistoned gas engine and holds a place in the history
books as the only British ship to pass Cape Wrath 5 times in one day
with the ships head on the same heading. Morven was a geared bulk
carrier.

Don't think the "drunken Duncan"was the cadet ship, that was the Crinan.

Cast Narwal was (if my memory is correct) not an OBO but designed only
for oil or ore.
Not trying to not-pick chaps ! only trying to help things along
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Old 29th September 2005, 18:10
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John,

Good man! Thanks for the input. I'll get the changes made later. With help like this we'll soon have a more accurate list.

There were so many of the ships which changed names, they will appear on the list more than once. An example being one of my old ships - Nordic Crusader. Started life as Naess Crusader then Nordic Crusader then Cast Fulmar ....... left Denholms ..... then Marinicki then Mount Athos I and finally Mount I ....... then she was scrapped!
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Old 29th September 2005, 19:56
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Nordic Crusader was also one of my old nightmares, should have been scrapped at birth.
Gulpers, sent you a private. As I'm new to this site, hope you get it.

In general, Denholm ships were one thing, but there must be a lot of fond memories about the Denholm legends eg. some of the Masters;
anyone remember sailing with (for example ) J.J."Harpic"Rose or D."Black Duncan"MacDonald. The memories start to flood back.

Denholms also had what we called the Gourock navy. I remember sailing as 2nd.mate with "wee jock"mcVicar on the Jersey Bridge around 1970.Him and me used to play partners at table tennis most evenings (before the days of videos on board) and it was always Gourock v The World.

Happy days and happy memories

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John,

Sailed with J J Rose on Erskine Bridge.

How about - Sh1thouse Taylor, Dougie Naismith, Jim Gray, Ian Jackson, Tommy Isbister, Ian Ramsey, Ian Graham, Jim Nichol, John Houghton, ? Ridley, ? Merrick, ? (Childish) Wildish ...... not forgetting Norman Angus on the GTVs ...... That'll do for a start.
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Old 30th September 2005, 20:15
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Ref.the Gourock navy here is my list of the ones I know of;

J.McVicar Master, sailed with him on Jersey Bridge,Baknes,Conon Forest
R.Macmillan Master nearly did a run job with him delivering Queen mary
II to her ignominious end on the Thames -around 1970.
D.Balloch A chief eng never to be forgotten, sailed with him on Atholl
Forest,
R.M.MacMllan Ch.off. Sailed with him once on Naess Cavalier 1964.
Stuart Cameron Went to australia just after 2nd.mates and died there
very young - early 70's.
Sloan Kelly Cadet on the Crinan , never heard of him again
Frank Brown Fellow apprentice on Crinan and Dunkyle 1964,never seen
him since.
Then there's me and Gulper.
Stir any memories.............anyone i've missed ??

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Old 30th September 2005, 21:58
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Gulpers,

what about ADVARA, I think she was Denholms managed geared bulk carrier converted to a geared container ship, I may be wrong?

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Old 1st October 2005, 00:50
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Pilot mac,

Yes you are correct, thanks for that, she's another one I forgot. When I get a moment I'll update the list ......promise!
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Gourock Navy

John,

What about Neil Smart. He was on the GTVs from Junior up to 3rd, or possibly even 2nd Engineer.
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Old 1st October 2005, 01:12
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Hi Fellow Clydesiders,
You talk about the Gourock Navy---the only navy Gourock had was Ritchies Ferrys?
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Additions to list of the Glezga Greeks ships

Hopepark (Ex Esso something or other. From memory Esso deline to take delivery of her and D wound up with her somehow) Used to ply the Arab - Israeli oil run.. 4 months on 4 months off. Real dodgy lifestyle back then.
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Old 1st October 2005, 03:43
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Another addition to ships list:

Darius - Tanker? - had a fire in ?? Rotterdam?? One crew member died..?? around 1969-70-ish
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Old 1st October 2005, 10:19
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Darius was a bulk carrier , I think,
Was Advara not the old "Conon Forest after she was converted ?.

Ritchie's ferries - M.V.Granny Kempock et al. - all aboard for Kilcreggan.

didn't know of a Neil Smart.

Nearly included John Gatherer but he was from Fort Matilda. He spent a lot of time on the Hopepark on the Israeli oil run. Last met John just after starting to work for Cast in Antwerp. John was Master on the Cast Fulmar discharging in Rotterdam and went up to visit him. Soon after , he went to the States to work for a firm in New York.
Had an accident on one of their ships and died as a result of some sort of poisoning , I think. Terrible shame , grand chap. Did my pre-sea with him at Greenock 1962.

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Dear friend if you want you can see the shot of GLENPARK i Historic shipping line and ships!!!
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How silly of me, Granny Kempock did the Helensborough run.
Lady Jane Ritchie did Kilcreggan.

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Old 1st October 2005, 19:28
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Hi Seafarers,
This is for the Gourock lads, I was sitting out on Cardwell Bay going out for a sail on a friends sailboat when suddenly around the corner at Fort Matilda appeared my favourite river steamer " PS Waverley" I snapped 3 shots the middle one was a beauty,after proccessing my son who is a technical illustrator made a air brush painting of the photograph,I'm quite proud of it. My problem is how to get it onto this web site,it will make the Gourock lads homesick? it does to me.
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Go to the the Gallery - click the link at top of this page - click UPLOAD photo, pick the most suitable category from the drop list (use the down arrow), browse to the file on your computer, complete any other options as necessary, Upload/Submit .....
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Old 2nd October 2005, 09:22
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John,

Have a look in the Gallery. Would you believe that japottinger has some shots of the Granny Kempock - also, if you search for MFV, you will find some of his shots of the admiralty MFVs that used to lie in the Great Harbour.

Will email later, doing yachty things today!
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Neil,

Excellent! Would love to see your picture. Airds' advice should help you post it. I still see Waveley on occasions down here on Anglesey - good to see the old girl churning along!
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I think the Advara was originally the Kyoto Forest. I was on the Conon Forest when
the Advara was sailing

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Clunepark

Hi,

Clunepark - I see she is listed as a bulk carrier.... I thought she was a cargo tramp.... maybe it was a previous one....???

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Old 4th November 2005, 10:32
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I sailed on the Naess Patriot (Bulker) 69,903 GRT and the Swiftness 12,980 GRT.
My discharge book has an H.CLARKSON & CO. LTD stamp for the Swiftness, and a
DENHOLM LINE STEAMERS LTD stamp for the Naess Patriot.
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Clunepark - I see she is listed as a bulk carrier.... I thought she was a cargo tramp.... maybe it was a previous one....???

Yes you are correct, she was General Cargo Ship, bought whilst building in
Japan for Greek owners in the mid to late fifties.
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Do any of you remember an incident in 1971 involving, I think it was, the "Naess Champion" off Albany, Western Australia?

She was a large (for those days, anyway) crude tanker with a midships bridge, I think she was bound from Geelong, Victoria to probably the Gulf but we came across her completely broken down and dead in the water just south of Albany in a typical SW'ly gale just after daylight in the 4-8 watch one morning. I was C/O of the 5976 grt Australian coastal containership "Kooringa" (Melbourne bound for Fremantle) at the time and recall thinking not all looked well with this big tanker, sitting high in the water and obviously drifting. I can remember calling on VHF and getting no response, even using the aldis lamp with no response and it wasn't until our R/O came on watch at 0800 that he got a very weak signal from the tanker requesting assistance.

To cut a long story short, we went back to her and expended eight rockets trying to get a line aboard her (I remember that we got as far as having a polyprop between us at one stage, I don't recall she made any attempt to get a line to us?) but in the end we stood by her until her Master decided he was out of immediate danger. Even if we'd managed to get a line aboard, I doubt we'd have been able to tow her - didn't ever get exact details of what happened to her in the end, but I believe a tug went out from Albany initially and eventually the Fremantle salvage tug took her in tow and she went to Singapore for repairs?

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Hello to the Denholm forum the Master of the Coastal Hercules Billy Coutts was the last time I was in Sullom Voe Skipper on the tugs that service the port,and another Master Jim Anderson of Denholms was a pilot in the same place,Jim Anderson was also involved in interviewing prospective applicants from Shetland prior to them being sent south for an interview and engaged as cadets in their ship management outfit Clyde Marine

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Old 15th November 2005, 23:46
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Missing ships

Hi
I am new to this forum
Some more of Denholms ships
Sig Ragne
Bibi
Scotstoun
Bern
Al Dhafrah


But there's one missing. To say I sailed on her is not accurate, in a four month trip we weighed anchor and moved two miles to get a better TV Picture off Khor Fakkan. The fishing was especially good during this trip.

I ran the bar on this ship and figured if I could run a pub ashore with the income like that I could make a living out of it. I am sorry to re awaken a nightmare but does anyone remember .................................................. .................................................. ........
DALMA

Out of all the engineers who sailed with Denholms how many remember this one
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