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Old 1st September 2016, 15:19
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Hi my name is Vinny although not in the maritime industry myself I am interested in researching great grandfather Phillip Malone and the ships he was crew on. In particular the S.S.Carmania about 1909. Was she sailing out of Liverpool to America then and was she ever damaged by fire. These are only family stories and I cannot verify them. Any info would be most gratefully received.
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Vinnt try this webpagehttp://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=carma
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Hi my name is Vinny although not in the maritime industry myself I am interested in researching great grandfather Phillip Malone and the ships he was crew on. In particular the S.S.Carmania about 1909. Was she sailing out of Liverpool to America then and was she ever damaged by fire. These are only family stories and I cannot verify them. Any info would be most gratefully received.
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thanks this was the type of info I was after it gives me several leads to follow up
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Hello Vinny
To find out for sure about the fire and were she sailed, you need to look at the crew agreements and logbooks of CARMANIA official number 120901 for the period in question. If you subscribe to "Ancestry" you can see them on line. If you do not subscribe your local library should allow you access through their PC's.
If not Liverpool City Libraries
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Website: http://liverpool.gov.uk/libraries-an...family-history
Have the originals.

CARMANIA was a regular on the Liverpool - New York City route 1909-1910

http://stevemorse.org/cgi-bin/boat.p...50&database=ny

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thanks Roger I am on ancestry this info is excellent SN is moving my research on more in my first 4hrs than the previous 4 months thanks to all vinny
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thanks Roger I am on ancestry this info is excellent SN is moving my research on more in my first 4hrs than the previous 4 months thanks to all vinny
looks as if you have got all the info that you asked for,just to add that my grandfather was a QM on the Carmaniawhen she fought the Cap Trafalgar,He was injured in the engagement and subsequently landed in Gibraltar,he was invaladed home to greenock where died of his wounds,
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thanks Jim I have been amazed by the depth and width of knowledge provided by the members of SN
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8I have some of my Grandfathers discharge books N.2,$ & 5. I don't what was in No. 1 or 3 or in fact how many in total he had. Due to the short trips UK to NY each time they signed off in Liverpool. Anyway here goes:/

Carmania sailed from Liverpool 27th. August 1912, signed off Liverpool 15th. September 1912; Capt. D. Dow.
On Liverpool Sept. 24/12 off Liverpool Oct 13. Dow.
On LPL. Oct. 19 off LPL. 10 Nov. 1912. Dow.
on LPL. Nov. 23. Off LPL LPL Dec, 15. Capt. Miller.
On LPL Dec 28. off LPL 20 Jan 1913. Capt. Barr.
On LPL Jan. 25 Off LPL. Feb 13. Barr.
On LPL Feb. 16 off LPL March 10. Barr
On LPL Mar. 15 off LPL 6th. Capt. Rostrom.
On LPL Apr. 19 off May 11.LPL Capt. Barr.
On LPL Apr. 19 off May 11. LPL Barr.
On LPL May 17 off Jun. 8. LPL Capt.Can't read.
On LPL June 14 off LPL Jul. 6. Barr
On LPL Jul. 19 off Aug. 10. 1913 LPL Barr.
On LPL Aug 26 off LPL Sept. 14. LPL Barr>
On LPL Sept. 23 off LPL Oct. 14. Barr.
On LPL Oct. 18. off LPL Nov 9. Barr.
On LPL Nov 15 off LPL off LPL Dec. 8. Barr.
On LPL Dec. 27 off LPL Jan 18 2014. Barr.
On LPL Jan 27. off LPL Feb 13. Barr.
On LPL Feb 14. off LPL Mar. 9 Barr.
On LPL Mar 14. off Apr. 8 LPL. Barr. All above sailed to NYK.
On LPL Apr. 14. off May. 7 LPL. Barr. Sailed to Boston.

Grandfather then sailed Aquitania, Andania,

Carmania.

On LPL May 23. 1918. off LPL Jun. 24 Capt. Irvine.
On LPL Jul. 1 off LPL Aug. 3 LPL. Irvine.
On LPL Aug. 8 Off LPL Sept. 13. Capt. Prothero (I think).
On LPL Mar 8 off LPL Apr. 13 1919. Irvine.Sailed to Halifax.
On LPL Apr. 9 off LPL May 6 Irvine.
On LPL May 21. off LPL Jun. 17. Irvine>
On LPL. Jul. 5 Off LPL Aug. 1. Irvine.
On LPL Aug. 16 off LPL. Sept.12. Irvine.
On LPL Sept. 20 Off LPL Oct. 18. Capt. Welsons
On LPL Dec. 3 off LPL Jan 6 1920. Welsons.
On LPL Feb. 18 off LPL Mar 18. Welsons.
On LPL Mar 27. off LPL Apr. 25. Welsons
On LPL May 1 off LPL May 25. Welsons.
On LPL Sept. 11 off LPL Oct 4 . Welsons
On LPL Oct. 9 Off LPL Nov. 1 Welsons.
On LPL Nov 9 off LPL Decd. 2 welsons. Unless otherwise noted above Sailed to NYK.

Grandfather sailed on Aquitania, Ascania, Mauritainia, Aurania,Louis Pasteur, Volendam. Atlants and others.

HJope this gives you some idea of the voyage frequencies and dedication to certain destinations.

Graeme Murray
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Old 6th September 2016, 09:23
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Thanks Graeme this is the type of info I was after in particular the early logs and the duration of the voyages to N.Y. thanks Vinny
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