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Old 19th January 2009, 16:44
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Hi all,

What a great site. Am hoping to find some of you who sailed with my dad Fred Ditty he was an engineer with Houlder Bros for some years from 63. His ships included Joya Mccance (both of them), Clydesdale/Clydebridge, chelwood/oswestry grange, Sholt Stuart, Sir John Hunter, Orelia, Oregis, Tewkesbury, Shaftsbury, Ocean Transport, Royston Grange, Clerk-Maxwell. I dont have dates but will update them later plus any ships I have missed out.

My mum and I had the privilege of joining him on the Clydebridge (3 times I think) between 69 and 72 and on the Oswestry Grange when she was going back and forth between Grangemouth and Holland. A couple of names I know he sailed with are Chris Olsen and Iain Cranston.

Would love to hear from anyone who can remember him.

Jennifer
yeah i remember fred i was a junior eng on the clerk-maxwell bet dec 1968 and june 1970 happy days ba/states/aussie /port kembla etc
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Old 26th January 2009, 21:22
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Hi, I sailed with your father when he was Third Engineer on the Chelwood in 1973, I was the Third Mate at the time. I remember him as a bit of a character.
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Old 30th January 2009, 17:21
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I am trying to locate some info about MV Queensbury. My Uncle was a member of the crew in 1965. His name was William (Bill) Joseph Westhead. He became ill on the ship whilst it was near to Brazil, about Sep 1965, and was taken ashore at Victoria. He died at Sau Paulo. Does anyone remember Bill and any information of where he was buried, plus does anyone know of where the ships logs and company information might be kept so I can investigate further. My intention is to locate the grave to visit but as you can imagine there are many grave yards and the ones I have checked around Sau Paulo have all come back with a negative result.
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Old 30th January 2009, 17:32
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Zoe, a warm welcome to you. Thank you for joining the community - and making an initial posting, although I am sorry to find it is a difficult one for you. Hopefully some of our members can assist with news, in the meantime do enjoy the site and all it has to offer, and we very much look forward to your postings in due course, with maybe some news of your success.

Mark
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Old 2nd February 2009, 10:36
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Hi, I sailed with your father when he was Third Engineer on the Chelwood in 1973, I was the Third Mate at the time. I remember him as a bit of a character.
He still is a bit of a character! I'm sure I have only heard the tamer stories.
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Old 2nd February 2009, 10:46
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yeah i remember fred i was a junior eng on the clerk-maxwell bet dec 1968 and june 1970 happy days ba/states/aussie /port kembla etc
Thanks evan, all stories welcome - wind him up a bit.
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Old 5th February 2009, 20:32
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Hi all I am Howard Bowden an ex houlder brothers cadet and 3rd mate. Joined may 1974 joined CLYMENE in abadan then went to STOLT SPAN, FARADAY, HUMBOLDT, ( Up the kiel Canal to Riga )UPWEY GRANGE, MEDIC, LORDKELVIN promoted and Then joined HORNBY GRANGE in Belfast, new ship ,18 hours out Crankcase explosion then long trip on 5 legs to Curacao for repairs. After that trip The Humboldt in and out of Lake Maracaibo in Venezuala. then back to the HORNBY Couple of trips on her also went on to Elstree Grange with Ann My wife, Then onto the BLACK MAX ( Clerk Maxwell) hat parties & lots of singing EL PASO there another trip on Hornby Grange then last two years to 1985 was on CANADIAN EXPLORER apart from 2 months on the DART BRITAIN Joined Police in 1985 been there to date. I would welcome any messages from anyone that remembers me.
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Old 7th February 2009, 19:39
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Hello,as new boy to this site let me introduce myself . Frank Clay ,I sailed with Houlders from 1966 to1973 . Istarted as 4th Eng and sailed on the following Oredian,Hornby Grange,Avogadro Shaftesbury Mabel Warwick Clyde Bridge and finally Cumbria . i finished as 3rd although I did sail as Dispensation Cheif on the Avogadro and was 2nd on the Shaftesbury for two voyages .
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Old 7th February 2009, 19:41
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Hello,as new boy to this site let me introduce myself . Frank Clay ,I sailed with Houlders from 1966 to1973 . Istarted as 4th Eng and sailed on the following Oredian,Hornby Grange,Avogadro Shaftesbury Mabel Warwick Clyde Bridge and finally Cumbria . i finished as 3rd although I did sail as Dispensation Cheif on the Avogadro and was 2nd on the Shaftesbury for two voyages .
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Hello Frank, a warm welcome to you - enjoy the Site and all it has to offer and you will find more than a shoal of Firey Kippers (and others) on here.
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Old 7th February 2009, 20:05
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Hi Howard, I was on the Humbolt & the Black Max and if you look at my profile you will see the dates. Include your dates and we will see if we were together, alot of us on here are very old and have lost our memories.
I will haveto dig out my old discharge book God knows where its hiding The wife tidied up some time ago i havent seen it for a while.On the Max i had mmy wife Ann with me and the riser was struck by lightning off Naples ( Cured my constipation) we had athief on board in tarragona Does that ring any Bells.
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Old 7th February 2009, 22:38
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Updated ships etc

I have now managed to dig out my Dischagre book
My ships and dates are on my profile Please feel free to have a look and see if you sailed with me anytime. Would love to hear from anyone i sailed with
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Old 7th February 2009, 22:41
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Joined Houlder Brothers in 1975 served on Clymene 05/05/75-20/09/75, Stolt Span 10/11/75 - 12/04/76,
Upwey Grange 21/05/76 - 21/07/76 ,Faraday12/02/77 - 03/07/77, Medic 02/09/77 - 17/12/77, Humboldt 06/02/78 - 17/05/78, Hornby Grange(3rd Mate) 18/06/79 - 23/10/79 & Again 14/02/80 - 04/06/80. Elstree Grange 09/09/1980 - 31/01/81, Hornby Grange 6/06/91 - 22/11/81, Lord Kelvin 12/03/82 - 14/07/82, Clerk Maxwell 29/09/82- 23/01/83, Humboldt 04/04/83 - 04/09/83, Canadian Explorer 15/05/84-30/06/84 & 28/07/84 -16/09/84 & 13/10/84 -
10/11/84 & 30/12/84 - 05/03/85 & 30/03/85 - 25/05/85, Dart Britain 30/06/85 - 28/07/85.
I left in 1985 joined South Wales Police and still there. 4 more years to retirement .

Would love to hear from anyone that sailed with me or remembers me
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Old 8th February 2009, 01:15
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Hi Howard, You were on the Humbolt before me but I guess you must have sailed with Captain Jaques and the first mate was Phil Bass, they were on there for years.

I was on the Black Max a few years before you and I still have my tee shirt, pink with I SURVIVED THE BLACK MAX on the front
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Old 8th February 2009, 08:15
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Hello Howard

I think I sailed with you on your last trip on the Dart Britain - you were waiting for confirmation of being accepted by the police. I lasted another 4 years, being made redundant in 1990, last trip being on the British Steel with Capt Creber and Capt Whistler. Enjoy the site!

Best regards Paul Corkin ex R/O
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Old 8th February 2009, 08:29
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I think I sailed with you on your last trip on the Dart Britain - you were waiting for confirmation of being accepted by the police. I lasted another 4 years, being made redundant in 1990, last trip being on the British Steel with Capt Creber and Capt Whistler. Enjoy the site!

Best regards Paul Corkin ex R/O
Thanks for the reply. I'm sorry i dont remeber you, but the name is vaguely familiar. I have a book in my attic that has the naem of everyone i sailed with but i have not yet dug it out its been put "safe" .The trip was short but i do remember a terrific rain/thunderstorm in New York where lightning struck one of the floodlight towers causimg it to wobble around and the rain that fell in such a short time was 4 inches deep on deck. Regards H
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Old 8th February 2009, 17:35
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I have just found my discharge book so can now put dates to ships
Oredian 30/12/66 to 4/4/67
Hornby Grange 28/7/67 to 7/4/68
Avogadro 23/5/68 to 2/1/70
Shaftesbury 3/6/70 to7/7/71
Mabel Warwick 27/1/72 to 5/4/72
Clyde Bridge 28/7/72 to18/11/72
Cumbria9/1/73 5/8/73
I then swallowed the anchor and made the mistake of working ashore ,a whole new ball game ,seemed to spend a lot of time falling out with the union man over doing jobs that were not in my province ,not like on the ships were if it neede doing you got on with it .
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Old 8th February 2009, 20:02
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Hi Frank, I was checking to see if I had sailed with you on the Cumbria and note that you paid off the same day as I signed on in Scaramanga, Greece. That was my first ship.
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I have just found my discharge book so can now put dates to ships
Oredian 30/12/66 to 4/4/67
Hornby Grange 28/7/67 to 7/4/68
Avogadro 23/5/68 to 2/1/70
Shaftesbury 3/6/70 to7/7/71
Mabel Warwick 27/1/72 to 5/4/72
Clyde Bridge 28/7/72 to18/11/72
Cumbria9/1/73 5/8/73
I then swallowed the anchor and made the mistake of working ashore ,a whole new ball game ,seemed to spend a lot of time falling out with the union man over doing jobs that were not in my province ,not like on the ships were if it neede doing you got on with it .
Frank Clay
Hi Frank.
You must have been on the "Cumbria" when I joined in Madras (21.5.73) and as Marinejockey said you paid off in Skaramanga in August that year. I am sorry I can't put a face to your name but I was the Chief Steward. Did we go to Constanza (Roumania) that trip?
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Old 20th February 2009, 22:18
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Cumbria was my first ship, joined it in Japan 8/8/74 as Eng Cadet. Remember the Old Man and Chief Engineer inspecting my cabin.When they opened my wardrobe door dozens of empty beer cans cascaded out on to the deck. The old man Cpt Spong gave me a good ear bashing “ The mans a drinker” said the chief steward (Bill Murdock) my face must have been a picture. When they walked off I heard the Chief Engineer (Humphreys) whispering to Murdock “ you’re a bad man chief”. Sailed with Bill several times after that and I never lived it down.
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WELSH DRAGON,

I left the Cumbria in Emden, Germany in February 1974 and by mate Mike Fraser took over as Cadet engineer so I am guessing that you must have taken over from Mike as he left to come back to phase III that started in September 1974.

I think I sailed with Bill Murdock, was he either an ex army RSM or his daughters were on the Tennants cans or maybe both. I think I was asked about the girls one night in the bar in his presence and started to brag that they would not be able to resist my charms and what I would do until Bill wacked me on the head.

I still stay in regular contact with Mike Fraser who is now a top manager for Diageo

What College did you go too.
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Old 21st February 2009, 18:47
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Hi Marinejocky, Went to Llandaff for Phase1 1972 to 1974 Then London Phase 3 1975.Your right about Bill Murdock, he was ex RSM in the Black Watch and his daughters were on the Tennants cans. I am sure i sailed with Mike Fraser but where and when escapes me for now.
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Old 27th February 2009, 12:53
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Hi Lads is there anyone out there who sailed on m.v. Queensbury from 1954 - March 1956. My Husband Kenneth Collins was Chief Electrician on her then. Ken passed away in 2005 but I am getting together his ships and info for my Grandson to keep Would love to hear from anyone who knew Ken. Best wishes Jean Collins. (Tiger1).

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Old 11th March 2009, 23:00
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Hi everyone.
I sailed on the "QUEENSBURY" as A.B. from 12/61 - 3/63. to S. America. I think that was the trip that when we docked in Rosairo my brother Chris, who was on a tramp called the "Dartford" walked aboard, and I did not even know he was back in the M.N. we had a few nights ashore together there, and thn both our ships whent down river to B.A. and we had anotherfew days together there. I think you will all agree, that is a million to one chance of ever happening!!

Larry from Liverpool.
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Old 13th March 2009, 18:39
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Joined Houlder Brothers in 1975 served on Clymene 05/05/75-20/09/75, Stolt Span 10/11/75 - 12/04/76,
Upwey Grange 21/05/76 - 21/07/76 ,Faraday12/02/77 - 03/07/77, Medic 02/09/77 - 17/12/77, Humboldt 06/02/78 - 17/05/78, Hornby Grange(3rd Mate) 18/06/79 - 23/10/79 & Again 14/02/80 - 04/06/80. Elstree Grange 09/09/1980 - 31/01/81, Hornby Grange 6/06/91 - 22/11/81, Lord Kelvin 12/03/82 - 14/07/82, Clerk Maxwell 29/09/82- 23/01/83, Humboldt 04/04/83 - 04/09/83, Canadian Explorer 15/05/84-30/06/84 & 28/07/84 -16/09/84 & 13/10/84 -
10/11/84 & 30/12/84 - 05/03/85 & 30/03/85 - 25/05/85, Dart Britain 30/06/85 - 28/07/85.
I left in 1985 joined South Wales Police and still there. 4 more years to retirement .

Would love to hear from anyone that sailed with me or remembers me
Hi Howard, I remember you. We paid off the Humboldt together in Flushing and travelled to Sheerness on theferry. I was 2nd Mate at the time.

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