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Old 9th July 2010, 21:26
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If Obama and his crew get any more hawkish with regard to BP and other oil companies it could well backfire with oil going up to $100 / barrel and more . The price at the pump will then cause an outcry from the people and he will find himself in a self made box with no escape .
Methinks that is why he has become somewhat silent . When the well is capped he will claim all the glory and then it will be the status quo with ongoing sets of litigation which will bore the population to death who will not care of the outcome as long as gas in cheap at the pump .
Well said and on the mark!
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Old 12th July 2010, 20:32
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Today BP are installing a new well capture system which they hope will bring all the escaping oil to the surface in a controlled way and allow them to capture it all thus stopping the massive leak which we have been watching.
The relief wells continue with Development Driller 3 being at 17810ft. and has completed their 10th ranging run. They are going to run casing in the new well and once that and the cementing is complete, I think they will attempt to drill into the well casing at around 1800ft. Once they penetrate the casing we will know just how much of a well this is and with luck the first load of heavy mud will knock it down. DD2 is at 16000ft and is ready to cement her casing and will then continue to range into the well casing.
BP are still aiming for the 1st. half of August to kill the well.
With luck they will kill it first time with the first attempt and I wish them every good luck with that.
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Old 12th July 2010, 21:40
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Been watching the Coast Guard over the last few days with their new toy.
The US Navy have contracted an Airship which will be crewed by the Coast Guard and will be used to patrol over the GOM to check oil spills and check for marine wlld life.
Due to its long time endurance it will be on patrol for up to 12 hours at a time and should be a great asset to the USCG in their fight with pollution.
Wonder why its chartered by the Navy but crewed by the USCG?

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Old 13th July 2010, 09:50
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Been watching the Coast Guard over the last few days with their new toy.
The US Navy have contracted an Airship which will be crewed by the Coast Guard and will be used to patrol over the GOM to check oil spills and check for marine wlld life.
Due to its long time endurance it will be on patrol for up to 12 hours at a time and should be a great asset to the USCG in their fight with pollution.
Wonder why its chartered by the Navy but crewed by the USCG?

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If I remember correctly Don, the USCG may only charter vessels and aircraft for single voyages or trips; or at least, very short term. Something to do with budgets.
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Old 14th July 2010, 20:39
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Well BP have the new system in place and are ready to test it, see if it holds and how much pressure it will take. Now it seems to be the USCG Commander and the US Government who are stopping the test taking place and they expect to keep it open for at least another 24 hours while they make their mind up. BP want to test it as soon as possible but are being held up.
I have always had a lot of time and admiration for the Coast Guard but they do seem to be getting in the way with quite a lot of this operation. The system has never been tested before as no one has done anything like this before so what do they have to make their mind up about, it works or it doesnt!
Also some confusion about the relief wells, USCG at one time says they are stopped and at others say they are still drilling ahead.

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Old 15th July 2010, 11:14
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I think so far as the well being drilled by the Development Driller III is concerned they will be ranging and drilling as they are very close to the target well and almost at deoth, now, so they will be alternately drilling, pulling the string, ranging nd drilling, and the same may go for the Development Driller II's well by now also. The DDII is behind because her BOP was kept available for a few days in case BP wanted to try to mount it on top of the Deepwater Horizon's BOP, which was one of the plans considered early on.
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Old 15th July 2010, 11:23
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Seems that they have a bit of a leak on one pipe, they'll have to get back to the drawing board!
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Old 16th July 2010, 09:19
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Current claims say the flow is 'staunched' ....whatever that means!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10658519
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Old 16th July 2010, 09:55
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Looks very good at present, and the BP share price has gone up5%+ today, on the London exchange.
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Old 16th July 2010, 16:52
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The live well cap has now been tested by everyone and his brother and seems to be holding the pressure inside the well.
Just watched the USCG response on the well, and as you can imagine they are taking calls from everyone and s=we still get the question "what happens if the relief well blows up?" The drilling guys must be tearing their hair out as despite everything they have done and shown and told people about this well, the disaster and their response, we are still getting women with a microphone asking stupid questions.
I know this well or the rig, blew up but how often does this happen? It may be fifty years until it happens again but that does not count, its better to ask in case it happens again. One woman was quoted as saying "about time, I thought it could have been done months ago!" All this without stopping eating, and you may guess she was not over at Transoceans test area, she was just a hungry expert.
Now with luck the relief well is only a few feet away from this 7 inch pipe 2 miles below the rig so its pretty slow but I am sure they will make it and indeed kill the well pretty quickly.
Then what will happen, will the Government leave this well capped as it is a huge field and with rising prices America needs the oil, we can only guess!

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Old 16th July 2010, 17:44
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Interesting that the new, "Cap", is a 78 tonne, "pressure cooker weight", with three line valves on it acting as chokes. It looks like the old dead weight cap trick still works. I like the way that the cap is fitted with a 1,5M square, foot thick, steel plate, to take advantage of the mile of water on top of it. pure Newtons!

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Old 16th July 2010, 18:09
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Coast guard daily publication show a three blind ram BOP but dont know where it is fitted, just a drawing really as no explanation unless its fitted above the cap but it wont do much up there if the cap comes adrift. Lot of weight though and it does look good.
Check out CG pages today and they have a drawing of both relief wells with drilling rates and casing sizes and angles, quite good for anyone interested who doesnt have a great knowledge of drilling.

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Old 17th July 2010, 07:22
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Maybe the pressure lower than anticipated 'cause the well's not the oil rob anticipated?
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Old 17th July 2010, 23:58
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I was wondering what was going on with the giant skimmer "A Whale" So when I looked for news of the giant skimmer I found this report from Fox News that the skimmer was not effective. I am not fond of the Fox News organization but the full article is below.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/17...ng-gulf-spill/
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Old 18th July 2010, 00:51
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Don, A couple of nights ago I was listening to this "Oil Expert" on TV and he was saying that the Gulf of Mexico has thousands of oil wells that have been plugged and these could blow and cause a disaster at anytime in the future. any thoughts on this.

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Old 18th July 2010, 20:21
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There is a very interesting and informative article in today's Observer regarding this incident.
One of the causes of the spill was the failure of the blow out preventor.
It now appears that BP insisted that this BOP was sent to China for modification by the owners of the rig. BP paid for the modifications.
Cameron Interational who made the BOP state that the modifications are so profound that the BOP no longer resembles the item they produced, thus putting them in the clear for any blame that is flying around.
There is apparently no chance of fixing blame on the Chinese sub contractor because China does not recognise international law, so this is going to come right back at BP.
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Old 18th July 2010, 22:48
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Don, A couple of nights ago I was listening to this "Oil Expert" on TV and he was saying that the Gulf of Mexico has thousands of oil wells that have been plugged and these could blow and cause a disaster at anytime in the future. any thoughts on this.

John.
If I may offer a comment on this, these wells may have 'watered out' ie they have produced all the oil they can and are now abandoned. The well bore would be filled with cement and once it was proven there was no pressure at the top of the well it can be left.
It sounds as if the 'Oil Expert' has little or no oilfield experience.
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Old 19th July 2010, 00:55
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Pat I havent heard that one about the BOP being reworked in China and if Cameron say it has been then I would accept that it has. That is frightening as Cameron are specialist in BOPs and I dont see BP or Transocean sending one to China to save some money, it would have had to have been to make modifications Cameron would not approve of. Will check into that and see what I can find.

John Abandoned wells are everywhere, in the Gulf, the North Sea Nigeria Angola Venezuela everywhere. In fact if you live in Continental US there could be one near you.
Wells are normally abandoned as they cant produce enough oil to be economic or just be Dry wells. A whole lot of the wells drilled are dry and never produce so they are capped. Capping normally has something like this in the well. If there is a reservoir they will stop above it and fit a plug which seals the well. They will then cement around 300 ft. of cement as a plug then fit another steel plug then more cement another steel plug and a cement one. Alltogether it amounts to around 1000 ft. of plug and is unlikely ever to blow. In Venezuela for example on the Lake at Maraciabo there are around 16000 wells mostly worked from tiny platforms. I believe that around 12000 are producing and I know that some wells are always being worked over to clean and help production. This goes on all the time, but if your "Expert" was correct there would be no Venezuela let alone the lake.

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Old 19th July 2010, 01:07
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Seems the gloves are coming off now as BP want to keep the well shut in but the Government want it to flow again so they can produce the oil. Cant see any other reason but they want to open the well up and change back to gathering oil on the surface and collecting it in pipes near the well. Only problem is that it would take three days to put it back to that situation and allow old to flow for three days before it could be gathered again and always with a large chance of a leak.
The Coast Guard Admiral in charge says he has to go by the science and wants to open it up again.
If he goes ahead and there is more spillage will the Government then be to blame for it and will we be able to go on tv everyday and blame the Government?
Think its much better to leave it shut.

Relief Drilling had stopped while the cap was fitted but is back drilling ahead. I believe the DD 3 has completed her 12th ranging shot and is within a few feet of where they will attempt to break through. DD 2 is down to around the ranging area and I believe has started her ranging.

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Old 19th July 2010, 02:33
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The EPA wants the well to flow again so that they could realistically judge the amount of oil that has being left in the water and shore line. So far the EPA is reporting that BP has been underestimating oil flow. If a larger amount of oil can be determined than BP's figure's the potential fines would be that much larger.
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If I may offer a comment on this, these wells may have 'watered out' ie they have produced all the oil they can and are now abandoned. The well bore would be filled with cement and once it was proven there was no pressure at the top of the well it can be left.
It sounds as if the 'Oil Expert' has little or no oilfield experience.

Thanks Don and Gordy for the information,as I thought, the "EXPERT" was another talking head,a fear monger.
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Old 20th July 2010, 15:00
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The well has been shut in for a few days now and there have been traces of Methane gas coming from the seabed, so everyone jumped on the BP wagon "as we know its them causing it". Today the US Government has said its normal seabed gas and not related to the well.

Strange sight on TV this morning was a beach in La. with people swimming and playing on it. Remind me if I am wrong but was this not the same state where their government said it would take at least three years for La. to recover?

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Old 20th July 2010, 15:16
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Don thats what I thought, the beach loked as good as the ones on the turkish coast
not much oil laying round but that maybe the cleanup is working better than we told
I hope so. For some reason they dont want to give credit to BP for the attemps to solve the problem.I really hope they are successful this time Regards Tony
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Old 20th July 2010, 19:24
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Usual Governmental stance, say nothing if someone else is paying for it! BP said that it would clean up faster than people expected, four or five weeks ago.

US Media on the march, led by Fox news and Greenpeace! What a bunch of idiots!
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Old 21st July 2010, 00:55
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I found this video while surfing the net,not the Gulf Shores.

http://www.snotr.com/video/4780


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