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Old 7th November 2012, 17:04
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Thanks Sparkie - I hadn't but a quick google put me right - which begs the question why was a libel action against Private Eye not proceeded with? Its a small difference between a caterer and an egg saleswoman presumably?
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Old 7th November 2012, 17:44
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My son "works" for Childline and worries that he is not giving the right advice or support by not asking the right questions. He is going to ask for support, advice and monitoring so that he can.
I am obviously proud of him for this and the other things he does and has done, so there ARE people out there to give these vulnerable children support. Esther Rantsen has a lot to answer for! And more power to her elbow to continue!
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I wonder of St. Esther will announce on t.v. the "jury's verdict" on this one??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20267832
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Old 9th November 2012, 19:56
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HARD FACTS TIME>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20269114

or lack of them.

Amazing what the requirement for proof can do................just as well Lord McAlpine isn't dead, isn't it?

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Old 10th November 2012, 00:26
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I feel so sorry for those who are innocent but named in suspicion of these paedophile accusations.

It is easy to prove a man is guilty but difficult to prove innocence, and once a name has been mentioned in this connection, however innocent he may be, the stigma will stick for a lifetime.

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HARD FACTS TIME>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20269114

or lack of them.

Amazing what the requirement for proof can do................just as well Lord McAlpine isn't dead, isn't it?
It doesn't seem to matter how many times you say it, Sparkie.......
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"the unamed politician"

Politician(S) to be accurate.................but yes...............STILL unnamed!!!!!!!!

Wonder why?
Will people ever learn!!!!!
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Old 11th November 2012, 11:47
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"It doesn't seem to matter how many times you say it, Sparkie......."

It doesn't seem to......... for sure.
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Old 11th November 2012, 22:20
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Four hundred and fifty thousand £ for 54 days work, not a bad deal for Mr Entwistle.
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Four hundred and fifty thousand £ for 54 days work, not a bad deal for Mr Entwistle.
That in itself, is criminal.
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Old 12th November 2012, 01:08
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A quick glance at the "next in line" for the Director General's job is quite interesting.............B.B.C. political in-fighting at it's very best.

Take a look at the "runners and riders"...............the former "unsuccessful applicants" for the D.G. post, may be particularly interesting.........
particularly in terms of chronology.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20287211

also...........http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...t-8227386.html

and then there is the "awkward relationship"...........http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sed-staff.html

As i posted before............"Savile was the subject............the Director General was the target."

MUCH more to this than meets the eye.............any cess pit would smell sweeter.

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Old 12th November 2012, 05:31
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It would be good if the Daily Mail could discover an Entwhistle Blower lurking in the wings.

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Old 12th November 2012, 14:38
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That in itself, is criminal.
Its a crazy world when Bankers & BBC bosses do a god-awful job, get fired and then get given massive amounts of cash.
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I feel so sorry for those who are innocent but named in suspicion of these paedophile accusations.

It is easy to prove a man is guilty but difficult to prove innocence, and once a name has been mentioned in this connection, however innocent he may be, the stigma will stick for a lifetime.

Derek
There was a case some years ago when a paediatrician was forced out of her home by a group of vigilante thugs who had confused paediatrician with paedophile. There was further controversy when paediatricians were being threatened and attacked following their evidence as expert witnesses for the prosecution.
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I think I'm losing the plot here but if you resign you have left your post voluntarily so why the pay off?... In my day if we resigned from H&W it was thanks and goodbye and don't let the door hit you on your way out. I'm sure it was much the same for you sea going lads, sign off a ship and you know where the gangway is... can anybody explain where I'm going wrong?
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I don't think you are going wrong, just other rules apply when its OUR MONEY the incompetents are getting!!

One justification that was given on the radio this morning was to the effect of "Well he needs the money, where's he going to get another job from"
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I think I'm losing the plot here but if you resign you have left your post voluntarily so why the pay off?... In my day if we resigned from H&W it was thanks and goodbye and don't let the door hit you on your way out. I'm sure it was much the same for you sea going lads, sign off a ship and you know where the gangway is... can anybody explain where I'm going wrong?
I believe the reason given is that he enough of a sport to have stepped down, so why not dob him a years wage, 'cos he is such a decent chap.
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Old 12th November 2012, 18:25
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The problem with the BBC as I see it is that it receives it's income from a direct tax on the public, while it' competitors have to work as a business. The BBC therefore do not need to employ the best managers available, but can award top jobs without showing due care and diligence. I think the licence tax should be abolished and the BBC put on a business footing and have to compete in the open market, and if the liberal Establishment want a propaganda machine, let them pay for it themselves.
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The problem with the BBC as I see it is that it receives it's income from a direct tax on the public, while it' competitors have to work as a business. The BBC therefore do not need to employ the best managers available, but can award top jobs without showing due care and diligence. I think the licence tax should be abolished and the BBC put on a business footing and have to compete in the open market, and if the liberal Establishment want a propaganda machine, let them pay for it themselves.
the bbc are supposed to be impartial regardless of what right or left say and i would feel very aggrieved if i had to rely on some of the commercial companies for factual news
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the bbc are supposed to be impartial regardless of what right or left say and i would feel very aggrieved if i had to rely on some of the commercial companies for factual news
having posted the above, i would still stop all these bloody shenanigans where the higher up the pecking order you are the more surreal your contract of employment becomes. golden hellos, golden parachutes , gardening leave, golden handcuffs. three year rolling contracts, so when they finally find a good reason to sack one, instead of one being a good chap and falling on ones gold plated sword, one is entitled to three years pay from the moment one is sacked. they really are taking the piss
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having posted the above, i would still stop all these bloody shenanigans where the higher up the pecking order you are the more surreal your contract of employment becomes. golden hellos, golden parachutes , gardening leave, golden handcuffs. three year rolling contracts, so when they finally find a good reason to sack one, instead of one being a good chap and falling on ones gold plated sword, one is entitled to three years pay from the moment one is sacked. they really are taking the piss

Its called amicable i call it diabolical absolute disgrace i agree Farmer
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Old 12th November 2012, 22:58
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WilliamH....................Spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well said.

The B.B.C. should be dragged into the 21st Century and made to pay it's own way..........

............IF it can.............. and it's a hell of a big "IF".

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The B.B.C. should be dragged into the 21st Century and made to pay it's own way..........
I have Freeview and Freesat with loads of channels, mostly commercial offerings that, presumably, pay their way. A bigger load of cr*p you cannot imagine. Given the option of paying my money to the government/BBC or having to watch that rubbish I would be happy to continue the way that things have been for many years.
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Old 12th November 2012, 23:11
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"A bigger load of cr*p you cannot imagine."

In which case a B.B.C. funded by subscription and not tax should have no difficulty in beating the cr*p competition with ease.

Viewers would be happy to pay voluntarily for a superior service............

I wonder why the B.B.C. fights tooth and nail to avoid it?

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"A bigger load of cr*p you cannot imagine."

In which case a B.B.C. funded by subscription and not tax should have no difficulty in beating the cr*p competition with ease.

Viewers would be happy to pay voluntarily for a superior service............

I wonder why the B.B.C. fights tooth and nail to avoid it?
sorry sparkie you're way off beam the bbc wins hands down, all the same our lost nhs and, soon to be privatised bit by bit, the constabulary
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