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Old 18th September 2013, 19:59
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Security! CE. 1978 and 1979/81

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That's it Graham! I was on the Security Sept 80 to Jan 81. And she was my final ship in 1986 when the axe fell.
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Hanratty rings a bell, AKA Big Jim?

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I never knew him as big Jim,we used to say they hung the wrong Hanratty. He was of small build ,from Newcastle,liked his drink .
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Old 19th September 2013, 16:09
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I never knew him as big Jim,we used to say they hung the wrong Hanratty. He was of small build ,from Newcastle,liked his drink .
Trying to remember if I sailed with him, or he was one of those whose reputation went before him.

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Old 19th September 2013, 16:29
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I was lecky on board the Reliance from26/2 /70-24/4 /70 (ALAN SCOTT)and only did one trip.Stockholm -dry dock in Wallsend . This period was so long because for most of that one trip, we were stuck in ice off Stockholm. It was my first ever ship and I was stuck in Stockholm for several days before it actually arrived.
We actually walked across the Baltic Sea to anther BP tanker to get some essential supplies (beer ). Did you become aware of this at all .The captain was Bell and the 2/E was Bob Hofton an ex lecky .
The worst part though was ,when we docked in Wallsend for the months dry dock ,I got transferred to the Gunner in Barry Island . I only lived 12 miles away in Shotton.
It was a good ship though.
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Another good ship was the Patrol ,coasting late 1970.2/E Colin Tuck and a great 3/E whose name I can not recall at present Mike ? a cockney.We went ashore one night in Malmo and went across on the Ferry to Copenhagen (after disposing of some scrap metal) )without passports I think .And got the first Ferry back in the morning with just our return tickets left -no money .I remember seeing the famous statue in the harbour . Met a girl that night whose job was a translator (of pornography books ),what a girl . We actually did 2 trips in 5 days on this ship -Kings North power Station next door from I.O.G, I was actually ashore at the dentist and missed the ship and had to get the taxi to take me round to Kings North .Then I.O.G to Purfleet. Ashore 6 nights out of 7.

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Old 19th September 2013, 16:37
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Hi Alastair,
I was on the Patrol in 1969 (first trip as deck apprentice) and I remember her as a 16 (thousand tons deadweight ) with those huge masts and being firmly "on the coast" , trading heavy fuel oil from Swansea around the UK and up to Sweden and Denmark etc. I remember her as carrying fuel oil because her rivets were getting to be a little loose for lighter cargoes. I could be wrong (I usually am) but I am not sure that she would have been carrying out a tow off Columbo in her later years? <smile>
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Old 19th September 2013, 17:03
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Alan Scott? A short trip on the Hazel in 1973?
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Seem to have my ships mixed up here . It was the Reliance I was first on. The Patrol ,(my third ship after Gunner 24/4/70-31/8/70) was later in the year ,Joined Gothenburg 1/12/70-5/5/71Dundee.
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Old 19th September 2013, 17:22
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I was lecky on board the Reliance from26/2 /70-24/4 /70 (ALAN SCOTT)and only did one trip.Stockholm -dry dock in Wallsend . This period was so long because for most of that one trip, we were stuck in ice off Stockholm. It was my first ever ship and I was stuck in Stockholm for several days before it actually arrived.
We actually walked across the Baltic Sea to anther BP tanker to get some essential supplies (beer ). Did you become aware of this at all .The captain was Bell and the 2/E was Bob Hofton an ex lecky .
The worst part though was ,when we docked in Wallsend for the months dry dock ,I got transferred to the Gunner in Barry Island . I only lived 12 miles away in Shotton.
It was a good ship though.
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Patrol?
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Old 19th September 2013, 17:24
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I was lecky on board the Reliance from26/2 /70-24/4 /70 (ALAN SCOTT)and only did one trip.Stockholm -dry dock in Wallsend . This period was so long because for most of that one trip, we were stuck in ice off Stockholm. It was my first ever ship and I was stuck in Stockholm for several days before it actually arrived.
We actually walked across the Baltic Sea to another BP tanker to get some essential supplies (beer ). Did you become aware of this at all .The captain was Bell and the 2/E was Bob Hofton an ex lecky .
The worst part though was ,when we docked in Wallsend for the months dry dock ,I got transferred to the Gunner in Barry Island . I only lived 12 miles away in Shotton.
It was a good ship though.
Patrol.
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Old 19th September 2013, 18:41
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Patrol Engineers December 1970

CE, J Hanratty
2E, Derek Tuck (I think he lives here on Vancouver Island), Ex1958 BP EA
3E, AR Hobbins
4E, ID Winn
JE's, C Cotter, R Leah
EC's, PC Holmes, MFD Gordon-Saker

A dearth of ex EA/EC's on that trip!

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PS , and of course you Alan.
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Old 20th September 2013, 15:34
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That's it Graham! I was on the Security Sept 80 to Jan 81. And she was my final ship in 1986 when the axe fell.
Dave,

Were you on her when she got sold to the Italians ? She was my last BP ship. I paid off in Rotterdam.

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Old 20th September 2013, 17:52
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Were you on her when she got sold to the Italians ? She was my last BP ship. I paid off in Rotterdam.

Kev
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No, I paid off in April 1986 at Immingham. According to the book 'BP Tankers, A Group Fleet History' she was sold to the Italians in 1989.

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Old 20th September 2013, 19:00
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Trying to remember if I sailed with him, or he was one of those whose reputation went before him.

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.Yes and it was a reputation ,I am trying to be diplomatic.

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Old 7th October 2013, 18:30
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Patrol Engineers December 1970

CE, J Hanratty
2E, Derek Tuck (I think he lives here on Vancouver Island), Ex1958 BP EA
3E, AR Hobbins
4E, ID Winn
JE's, C Cotter, R Leah
EC's, PC Holmes, MFD Gordon-Saker

A dearth of ex EA/EC's on that trip!

Graham
PS , and of course you Alan.
I remember 2/E tuck very well but always thought his first name was Colin .From Nottingham . If you get in touch with him can you pass my regards to him please Graham. And 3/E Hobbins ,we used to have some good runs ashore. We used to say of chief that they hung the wrong Hanratty (can u remember young James Hanratty 26 yrs old got hung 1962).
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Old 12th October 2013, 19:01
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The only name I see there that I recall is Mr. Gordon Saker, he relived me in Eleusis in Greece in 1983 in dry dock. The vessel was the Mokran ex british neath! I think, or it may have been Norman Searles - can someone help me? Where does the memory go?
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Old 14th October 2013, 19:06
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The only name I see there that I recall is Mr. Gordon Saker, he relived me in Eleusis in Greece in 1983 in dry dock. The vessel was the Mokran ex british neath! I think, or it may have been Norman Searles - can someone help me? Where does the memory go?
Alan, are you sure of that? How about 1979?

Mokran (LEFO) May 1979 CE Mike Herring, you 3E. June12th 1979 same ship, 3E now MFD Gordon Saker .

Norman Searles is a whole different ballgame !

BTW 1983 ships movements for Mokran...Trading gulf Area. Only crew listings are Iranian Deck and Engineering Cadets. Minab and Marun the same, quite odd!

PS. You going to send me some seatime info?, then we can really get down to work. Does wonders for the memory

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BTW 1983 ships movements for Mokran...Trading gulf Area. Only crew listings are Iranian Deck and Engineering Cadets. Minab and Marun the same, quite odd!


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I think at that time those ships had been wholly transferred to NITC and were purely Iranian manned, however BP Shipping was responsible for training the cadets and to all intents and purposes the Cadets were BP employees, this might explain their presence on the list. The "British Surveyor" became "Shoush" under NITC but don't know if it ever went wholly Iranian manned (Think Iranians had a little difficulty finding steam tickets)
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Alan, are you sure of that? How about 1979?

Mokran (LEFO) May 1979 CE Mike Herring, you 3E. June12th 1979 same ship, 3E now MFD Gordon Saker .

Norman Searles is a whole different ballgame !

BTW 1983 ships movements for Mokran...Trading gulf Area. Only crew listings are Iranian Deck and Engineering Cadets. Minab and Marun the same, quite odd!

PS. You going to send me some seatime info?, then we can really get down to work. Does wonders for the memory

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OK OK memory shot!! It was 1979 with Mike Herring as CE a real nice bloke. Dry docked in Amsterdam and there I paid off heinekeined out!

Yes, Norman is a different story and I see from the latest Flag still at sea! As CE a very good engineer. Since I have left the once happy house in kent! I have lost touch with him.

Graham, what sea time do you want from me? The vessels I sailed on and when. If so, it will be guesstimation as my discharge book probably went on a bonfire in the garden following my departure.

Please let me know.
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Yes, Norman is a different story and I see from the latest Flag still at sea! As CE a very good engineer. Since I have left the once happy house in kent! I have lost touch with him.

Graham, what sea time do you want from me? The vessels I sailed on and when. If so, it will be guesstimation as my discharge book probably went on a bonfire in the garden following my departure.

Please let me know.[/QUOTE]

Alan,

Settling in?

I have never heard of Norman Seales before, tell me more.

I'll send you a personal email, not through SN.

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Old 15th October 2013, 21:28
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Ooops , my mistake ,I meant Norman Searles.

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Old 15th October 2013, 21:36
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I think at that time those ships had been wholly transferred to NITC and were purely Iranian manned, however BP Shipping was responsible for training the cadets and to all intents and purposes the Cadets were BP employees, this might explain their presence on the list. The "British Surveyor" became "Shoush" under NITC but don't know if it ever went wholly Iranian manned (Think Iranians had a little difficulty finding steam tickets)
Duncan,

I'll have to go to my font of information on that, Don Shearwood, prodigious memory, he is still around. A few Masters, Mates , CE's and 2E's might remember him. He was heavily involved with the Iranian Cadet programme from the start.

One of the Iranian Engineering Cadets is a CE on BC Ferries, I have met him.

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[QUOTE=Ajohnson;709359]OK OK memory shot!! It was 1979 with Mike Herring as CE a real nice bloke. Dry docked in Amsterdam and there I paid off heinekeined out!

Alan,
you were a juvie in those days how could you remember. Mike was a 1958 EA, I have tried to get in touch with him ( in 2003) but with no success.
The 1958 intake produced some long term BP CE's, I have been in touch with 14, you are included David!

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Don Shearwood and Dave Sperring - Nobody from my era will ever forget them!
I did not have a home phone until I joined the Commodore as Chief in 1970 and consequently they would have to contact me by PO Telegram. My wife and young kids always knew I would be leaving as soon as they heard the motorbike approaching. I would then have to go to a phone box acroos the street to contact them for my instructions. Those guys had a hard job and managed to be always pleasant. Played darts against them in later years when I worked in HO but Teams I was on always got beat by them!!

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OK OK memory shot!! It was 1979 with Mike Herring as CE a real nice bloke. Dry docked in Amsterdam and there I paid off heinekeined out!


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Nice chap Mike, last saw him at a funeral, of all places, a couple of years back in Portsmouth.
He lost his wife, remarried and from what I can make out spends a lot of time in the States where his wife has family.

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I have just joined shipsnostalgia and have noticed this thread. I was 3/0 on the Gull when she went to the assistance of the Comet. We towed her for approx. 10 days from the west coast of Ceylon around to Trincomalee where she reprovisioned after all the fresh and frozen food had been dumped. I do not know if my memory is failing but I do not recall a problem with the lifeboat.
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