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  #51  
Old 12th November 2016, 16:10
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I was 6th Engineer on Norselion joined in Japan in 1975 and was on fortnightly iron ore runs to Port Hedland and Port Walcott Western Australia.
Paid off in September 1975 and joined Bank Line as 5th.
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Old 15th November 2016, 11:28
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Hi

I was 5th Engineer on the Norse Lion and joined it in Japan in 1977 so a wee bit after you
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Old 15th November 2016, 22:23
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Hi

I was 5th Engineer on the Norse Lion and joined it in Japan in 1977 so a wee bit after you
Hello John,

I live in Portknockie, I was 3rd engineer in 1977.

I remember in Vancouver, the top polis guy arrived , your brother.

I have just started liver biopsy but failure.

Such is life.

All the best, John.
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Old 16th November 2016, 12:13
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Smile Norse Lion

Hi John

I remember you and Wullie Hastings

You may also remember Alistair Campbell the 4th engineer. Alistair passed away last year

I have had a prostate treatment done and now the cancer is in remission

All the best

John
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Old 16th November 2016, 20:24
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I was also on the Norse Lion at that time as the sparkie.
The second mate was John Cardelli (or something like that) from Australia. There was also an Irish 3rd mate with his wife.
I paid off in Vancouver, must have been cheaper than Japan for the company.
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Old 16th November 2016, 22:12
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Norse Lion

Hi Quiney

Sorry don't remember you

I remember the Ozzy guy

The chief engineer was a big fat guy

The electrician was a Welshman called Vivian Pellow, I wonder what happened to him

I am semi retired now and living n the south of France

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John
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Old 16th November 2016, 22:24
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We must have been on at slightly different times because the lecky that I was with was a Georgie with a nickname of Chick. He flew out with me and and I met him again some years later on the Volney.

John
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Old 17th November 2016, 12:02
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Norse boats and HC Ltd

HI Guys

We are now old guys and most will either be retired or getting there and hopefully healthy

After the Norse Lion I went to the Norse Herald as 4th then left the company after that to join Denholm MacLay

They had 4 bulk carriers and later a gas tanker called Stena Oceanica

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John
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Old 17th November 2016, 12:32
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I was first trip junior eng on British Monarch 22Feb1962 - 26Mar1962.
B&W 4S Diesel with Scotch boiler and all steam auxilliaries.
Saw the light and went steam turbine after that
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Old 17th November 2016, 12:40
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Hi Basil

So you joined the valve packers and water pumpers

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Old 17th November 2016, 21:24
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Norse Lion

Hi

When I was on the Norse Lion, the 2/E was John Clark, 3/E's were Al Joa and William Hastings, 4/E was Alistair Campbell, 5/E was me

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John
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Old 18th November 2016, 16:56
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So you joined the valve packers and water pumpers

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John
Ah, yes. Now I think of it, I recollect a valve design which had two seats: one conventional for closed and the other which sealed off the spindle when fully open. I bet they were de rigueur on ammonia 'fridge plants.
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Old 18th November 2016, 17:32
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Hi Basil

The valve that you describe sounds like the type used on the high pressure gas line on the well testing on rigs

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Old 18th November 2016, 22:39
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The Cancer

The Dates..
ENGINE FAILURE, CREW INJURY AND DAMAGE DURING HEAVY WEATHER.

1. TRAIN OF EVENTS

Sunday 22nd February 1998
* 0030 hours Main Engine stopped due to a fault on the controls. Changed over amplifier pump.
* Main Engine on reduced speed and manual control due to overspeeding.
* Vessel started to roll excessively with equipment getting thrown about.
* Called out the second engineer.
* Informed the Captain that we had a dangerous situation in the engine room with equipment coming adrift.
* 0300 hours approx. Lost the jacket cooling water. Main Engine shut down.
* The spare cylinder cover had left its stowage position and crashed through the main jacket cooling water inlet pipe.
* All engine room staff were called to the engine room.
* The second engineer, fourth engineer and wiper started attaching additional chain blocks to the spare cylinder covers stowed outside the workshop.
* The vessel rolled again very heavily and the chain blocks failed.
* The covers started sliding rapidly from port to starboard.
* The fourth engineer slipped and fell in the path of a cover.
* The second engineer pulled him clear but not completely.
* The cover struck the fourth engineer on the lower part of his body.
* The second engineer and wiper carried him to the stores flat.
* The stretcher party were called out and he was transferred to the hospital.
* Started to remove the damaged pipe work.
* Obtained a flexible cargo hose from the deck.
* Started to manufacture reducers and fittings.
* Working under very difficult and dangerous condition's due to the vessel rolling 45 to 50° .
* The flexible pipe was fitted to the engine and pressure tested, it was then noted that three vent pipes were leaking .
* The damaged sections were replaced with fire hose.
* The damaged ford auxi blower ducting was sealed and lashed up with pvc sheet.
* 2000hrs Vessel got underway at slow ahead due to the restricted inside diameter of the flexible pipe thus causing a reduced cooling water flow to the cylinders.

Monday 23rd February 1998
* 0010 hours Injured as per SAFIR report. Second engineer in charge.
* 1200 hours. Fourth engineer off by USCG helicopter.

Tuesday 24th February 1998
* 1300 hours. Chief engineer off by USCG helicopter.



2. DETAILS.

2.1. Main Engine on reduced speed.
The engine was racing up to overspeed and due to this the rpm was being controlled between 70 and 90 rpm on manual control.

2.2. Second Engineer called out.
By the noise it was obvious that equipment had come loose in the spare gear store above the engine room control room.
I was commited to manually controlling the engine therefore I called out the second engineer to check and secure equipment as required.

2.3. Ford Cylinder Cover left its stowage position.
The vessel pitched and rolled very heavyly.
A very lound thud and crashing sound was heard from the ford part of the engine room.
Jacket cooling pressure was lost and the engine stopped.
The fire alarms sounded.
I left the control room and observed that the main jacket water cooling inlet pipe was damaged beyond repair with steam and water emitting from the broken ends. The ford spare cylinder cover was lying on the bottom plates.
It was also observed that the cylinder covers port side retaining stud had sheared and the starboard side retaining stud was missing with the threads oiled and in good condition.

2.4 Spare Cylinder Covers stowed outside the workshop.
With engine failure the vessel was at the mercy of the weather and started to
roll to a greater angle than before.
Attempts were being made to secure the covers more firmly with chain blocks. These failed and the covers started to slid in an uncontrolled manner. Port to Starboard. Finally to be jammed between a girder and bulkhead on the starboard side and resucured with chain blocks.



3. CONCLUSION

3.1 Spare Ford Cylinder Cover
The cylinder cover cover left the stowage position due to a combination of heavy weather and the starboard retaining stud coming loose.
When the vessel pitched and rolled the full force was exerted on the port retaining stud which then sheared allowing the cover to leave its stowage position.





John M Clark
Chief Engineer Officer
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Old 19th November 2016, 08:54
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Hi John

I have not heard on Nautilus as I left uk in 1990

My healthcare has always been with bupa as a gold member and they would cover all expenses like what you are now experiencing

Regards

John
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Old 25th January 2018, 22:45
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Iain Harrison

Sad to say, Iain Harrison passed away on 25th November, 2017. A Memorial Service was held in Killearn 2 weeks ago.

A very good man. RIP Iain, and many thanks.

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Old 20th April 2018, 08:40
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When I was on the Norse Lion, the 2/E was John Clark, 3/E's were Al Joa and William Hastings, 4/E was Alistair Campbell, 5/E was me

Regards

John
Been off this site for a while, it seems.

I remember Al Joa - always the same wave of the hand as he went off watch, with “Everything is alright, you know”. Nice fella.

Willie Hastings is around on the Harrisons Clyde Facebook group “An even curiouser venture”.
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Old 15th May 2018, 12:16
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I remember Al Joa and John Clark well. Willie Hastings and Allison live in Gourock; Willie still works at sea doing whatever he fancies, and Allison is still a nurse.

The last of the remaining original Directors, Peter J Wordie, passed away last week. A memorial service for him will be held in Dunblane Cathedral.
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Old 16th May 2018, 00:35
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I remember Peter Wordie visiting the "Scotish Monarch" in a far away port. The mail had just caught up with us and my wife who wrote on a nearly daily basis, she numbered the letters so I would know if any were missing. Peter Wordie came in to my cabin and saw the prodigious pile of mail and back out and said I will let you sort out the crew mail. No I replied its all mine and if the office had forwarded it on time I would not have had so mauch at once. We and the above poster David were sitting having a liquid refreshment when he joined us. I still to this day remember a comment he made when we were discussing our lot as seamen.
"shipping is a facinating game" to which I commented " and what happens when you got fed up playing this game ?' No response as it was indeed a game for them trying to get investors especially when they had old tonnage such as the Celtic and British Monarch which to be kind were rather worn out.
Good to see you still about David, no travels planned?.

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Old 21st May 2018, 15:06
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Bill Ross

Hi Bill,
Good to hear from you; hope Ruth and yourself are still keeping well. I still go the occasional cruise, but am not so fond of the long air journeys nowadays so am more likely just to hop on a flight at Glasgow and nip down to Gran Canaria for a couple of weeks in the sun. Old age------you can't beat it!
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Old 8th June 2018, 21:54
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Just heard that Brian Tyrell passed away last week, he was skipper with Stirlings for a good few year.
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Old 9th September 2018, 11:50
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I'm looking for photographs of the ships I served my time on as deck cadet with Harrisons Clyde. These included the Vennachar, Volnay, Varna and Norse Lion. Also interested to hear from anyone who served on these ships
Hi Old Jake

I joined Harrisons Clyde from Head Line, first sailing on the outbound voyage from Avonmouth to Canada, did three voyages before I even got an interview, once that was over I flew out to Japan the Norse Lion as Ch Eng first with Capt Jones, then Capt MacDougall sailing Japan/Australia with iron ore. A wonderful ship and both wonderful masters being a pleasure to sail with. Harry


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Old 9th September 2018, 15:40
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VENNACHAR with photo
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuil...ip.asp?id=2511

VOLNAY
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuil...ip.asp?id=2518
http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/show/146309

NORSE LION
http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/show/223521

VARNA
http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/show/113960

Can't see any photos for the last three in the usual places, but maybe someone will come up with one under a different name.
You might like to know that when I clicked on the Clydesite to see pic of Volnay, a threat warning from my security system came up. I assume it's a reputable site?

I remember seeing Volnay entering Gatun Locks a long time ago while I was alongside at Cristobal bunkering. I reall her being a green colour all over.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 03:58
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I joined Verdala in 1968. Sailed on her for one year before serving on Vennachar as CAdet and then Third Mate until leaving in 1973. I have very happy memories of both ships. I think this photo was taken on Vennachar when she ran aground in the lakes of Panama Canal.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 07:12
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Hi Norrie,
There is a facebook group "An Even Curiouser Venture" devoted to Harrisons, Stirling and Western Ferries. You may find a lot of info and even old shipmates. You can request to join.

Al
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