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Old 10th July 2012, 14:34
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ss North Cambria 1918

While researching the eight names on the WW1 War Memorial in Pentrefelin Caernarfon Gwynedd in the chapelyard I found a grave of David John Jones who was aboard the SS North Cambria in the English Channel 1st Aug 1918 when it sank after a collision with the SS Port Stephen. Can anyone shen any light on what happened?
Have downloaded a pic of the stone in the Gallery

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Old 10th July 2012, 18:30
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Old 10th July 2012, 18:32
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A warm welcome to SN.

The North Cambria was on a voyage from New York to La Pallice carrying a cargo of railway material. Another Member may be able to add more.
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NORTH CAMBRIA (2) (1915-1918)
Steel single screw cargo steam ship
O.N. 125636 3,577gt 348.5 x 49.5 feet (106.2 x 15.1 metres)
T.3 Cyl. by Richardson Westgarth & Company, Middleton, Hartlepool
28.8.1907 launched, 10.1907 completed by Furness, Withy & Co. Ltd., Middleton, West Hartlepool Yard No. 305 as CALCUTTA for s.s. Calcutta Co. Ltd. (Nelson, Donkin & Co.), London. 1915 sold to H. Roberts & Son, Newcastle renamed NORTH CAMBRIA. 1.8.1918 sunk in collision on passage New York for La Pallice with railway material.
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Old 11th July 2012, 09:08
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Minor Correction

The vessel that the Hugh Robertson & Son' s s.s. North Cambria collided with was not the Port Stephen (sic) but the 7,198 tons cargo ship s.s. PORT STEPHENS (ex Star of Australia-owned by Commonwealth & Dominion Line Ltd.)
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Old 11th July 2012, 10:55
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SS North Cambria

Thank-you for the info ,most of it I have found myself, what I'm really trying to find out is what actually happened? I believe it was in collision with another ship, some reports say the SS Port Stephen. Where can I find out about the incident itself?
Is it possible that the William David Jones on the gravestone was in the navy or Merchant navy, have seen the list of deaths and survivors of the Cambria on that day but he isn't listed?
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Old 11th July 2012, 10:59
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Old 11th July 2012, 11:15
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Are you sure this is correct? According to the website "wrecksite"it the "PORT STEPHENS ABANDONED IN THE SOUTHERN PACIFIC OCEAN ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 3. 1906." Was it recovered?
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Old 12th July 2012, 07:49
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Are you sure this is correct? According to the website "wrecksite"it the "PORT STEPHENS ABANDONED IN THE SOUTHERN PACIFIC OCEAN ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 3. 1906." Was it recovered?
Myra,there are usually several ships of the same name over a lifetime.

The PORT STEPHENS which collided with NORTH CAMBRIA was a later one,built 1899.(Official No 110507) .She did not sink ,continued in seagoing service and was scrapped at La Spezia,Italy in 4/5/24.
Wrecksite would not include her because of course she was not wrecked !

The earlier PORT STEPHENS which Wrecksite refers to was O.N. 102853 built 1894 and foundered in the S.Pacific 3/10/06.

Hope this clarifies things.

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Old 12th July 2012, 20:12
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thanks for clearing that up for me, still trying to find out about David John Jones of Pentrefelin who was on board. Have a feeling he may have been in the RNVR but still searching.
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Old 12th July 2012, 20:12
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On board the SS North Cambria I Mean :0)
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SS North Cambria

I have spent some years researching this vessel. My Grandfather was First mate when she went down as a result of a collision on 1st. August 1818 with SS Port Stephens.

I have a complete list of the ship's manifest and crew listings (those drowned and those who survived).

Also I believe I may have found a painting of the ship.

Should you wish more details, please ask.
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We too are researching the SS North Cambria. I have found a letter written by my great, great uncle Teddy to his mother with the address SS N Cambria, Barry Docks, S Wales. The letter is not dated. We know he lied about his age to enlist and that he died at sea, a casualty of an accident. His body was never recovered and because of this his mother never accepted his death. I read your thread and was interested to learn that you have a list of the casualties. Could you please be as kind as to share what information you have collected with me and my family? Thanks
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Old 18th October 2014, 11:47
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Hello,
Yet another piece of the jigsaw!
This is just a short reply to explain what info I have. Within the next few days I'll gladly send you further details including the reasons for my research, together with details/assumptions I have about the SS North Cambria and its demise.
I can confirm that your great, great uncle was a member of the crew.
The ship's Crew List reads as follows:
Teddy Hughes Age: 15.
Birthplace: Bangor.
Previous ship details: First.
Date and place of signing agreement: 14th. May, Barry.
Engaged: Steward's Boy.
Commencement of voyage: 16th. May 1918
Place: Barry
Termination of Voyage:
1st August 1918.
Place: North Atlantic
Sunk by Collision with SS Port Stephens
If you have further thoughts or information, please let me know.
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Old 12th May 2015, 20:33
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Crew List for SS Cambria

Please might you send me the crew list for SS Cambria. I am interested in Cecil Archbold and Charles Hutchinson. Cecil comes up on a memorial I am researching and Charles was his friend.

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Old 12th May 2015, 22:12
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Dear Tarw,
I do have the names of some crew members, but unfortunately both names you listed are not on it. Are we discussing the same ship? I researched the SS North Cambria sunk in collision 1/2 August 1918. I am aware that there was a much older ship known as SS Cambria. Is this the ship you are interested in?
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Old 13th May 2015, 15:52
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Dear Teddy,
Many Thanks for replying so promptly. I noticed that the ship you were discussing was called SS North Cambria, while the ship Cecil Archbold drowned on was SS Cambria. However, the date I have for Cecil's death is 1st August 1918. Surely this is too much of a coincidence? Of course, it is possible someone else has made an error, but my original source dates from 1921, when events from 1918 would still have been in people's minds. Sverige said he had a full complement list - is that what you have as well?
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Old 13th May 2015, 18:48
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Hello Tarw and welcome,

I can confirm that both Charles Hutchinson and Cecil Archbold were casualties of the sinking of ss NORTH CAMBRIA on 1st August 1918.

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Old 14th May 2015, 22:42
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SS North Cambria

Hallo again Tarw.
In my correspondence with Sverige he only provided me with the names of the crew members drowned that were from Porthmadog because this is where my great uncle had lived before joining the merchant navy. Sverige gave me a lot of detailed information. Have you contacted him? Best of luck.
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Old 19th November 2018, 16:06
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Charles Hutchinson (full name Charles Gibson Hutchinson) was a distant cousin of mine. From a short roll of honour, in the Newcastle Journal 17th August 1918, of local men are the following: Cecil Archbold and Charles Gibson Hutchinson, giving family details.
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