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Old 2nd May 2014, 20:24
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Spring 1971 for Warwickshire

Captain Hudson A.
Chief Eng Officer Ford A.J.K.
Chief Officer Philip B.P.
2nd Officer Appleton J.K.
Ext 2nd Officer Morris T.N.
Deck Cadet Williams P.G.
Deck Cadet Farrimond M.J.
Radio Officer Tracey R.
Purser Martin H.H.
2nd Eng Officer Smith M.D.
3rd Eng Officer Powell R.
4th Eng Officer Jones A.D.
5th Eng Officer Chapman K.
Engineer Cadet Simpson W.
Engineer Cadet Cotton A.
Electrical Officer Pugh J.E.

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Hi Guys

Sorry to deepen the mystery, but thats not me in this photo.(post 56) I think the guy next to Alan Hudson is the Second Mate whose name alludes me at present.

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Old 2nd May 2014, 20:40
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Spring 1971 for Warwickshire

Captain Hudson A.
Chief Eng Officer Ford A.J.K.
Chief Officer Philip B.P.
2nd Officer Appleton J.K.
Ext 2nd Officer Morris T.N.
Deck Cadet Williams P.G.
Deck Cadet Farrimond M.J.
Radio Officer Tracey R.
Purser Martin H.H.
2nd Eng Officer Smith M.D.
3rd Eng Officer Powell R.
4th Eng Officer Jones A.D.
5th Eng Officer Chapman K.
Engineer Cadet Simpson W.
Engineer Cadet Cotton A.
Electrical Officer Pugh J.E.

Yes it does Paul
THE ex 2/o paid off and I was promoted to 3/o

Thank you Mike
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How are you Geoff ?Graham Le Marchand here .
Hi Graham,

Sorry only just sighted your reply to an entry that I had made.

Still working ... with Ofcom at the present time at their HF Direction Finding site near Baldock, have been there for two years now and really enjoy the work. Joined after 22 years with GCHQ and prior tothat 5 years as a Marine Electronics engineer based in Falmouth. Left Bibby Line after they flagged out.

I an presently in Lanzarote visiting my wife who presently lives here due to illhealth, although she is coming back to the UK as here healthis getting worse.She has a dibilating illness of Erlers Danloss syndrome loss of collagen from the body.

So how are you keeping, woukld be great to hear from you.

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Old 12th June 2014, 20:21
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Enjoying your work is worth a lot of money. I spent 2.5 years in Hitchin at GE Pensions and loved it. Took my bike test around Baldock.

Now I am in a job I hate, but cannot afford to give up as the money is more that I would get elsewhere. Just another resource in a large bank.

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Hi Graham,

Sorry only just sighted your reply to an entry that I had made.

Still working ... with Ofcom at the present time at their HF Direction Finding site near Baldock, have been there for two years now and really enjoy the work. Joined after 22 years with GCHQ and prior tothat 5 years as a Marine Electronics engineer based in Falmouth. Left Bibby Line after they flagged out.

I an presently in Lanzarote visiting my wife who presently lives here due to illhealth, although she is coming back to the UK as here healthis getting worse.She has a dibilating illness of Erlers Danloss syndrome loss of collagen from the body.

So how are you keeping, woukld be great to hear from you.

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Old 26th June 2014, 12:07
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Bibbys

Hi Derick
i noticed quite a response to your query and thought i would add to the growing number of x bibby crewmen, i sailed as second cook and baker on the english and australian bridge in the late 70s, although they were good ships regarding pay and standard of accommodation i was always appalled at the segregation of crew and officers. Sorry to be negative but on reflection its what i remember about the company.
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Old 6th July 2014, 18:10
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June 1969 Gazette added

Many thanks to MT Meredith who supplied scans of June 1969 Gazette.
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Old 7th October 2014, 16:05
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Martins Bank Building

Hi all
Does anyone now the history of Bibbys association with this building?
They occupied the top of it and also had basement storage. Did Bibby's own it or lease their part of it?
John C, I expect you may know some of this story, would be interested to hear about it.

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Old 7th October 2014, 22:30
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Hi Alan,
Hope you and Sheila are in good health. From memory the building was owned by Martins Bank, which later became Barclays. As you rightly say Bibbys occupied the whole of the 7th floor as well as space in the basements. As a matter of interest other shipping lines which had offices in the same building were Moss Hutchisons, Athel Tankers and Booker Line. That's about all I can tell you Alan.
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Old 8th October 2014, 08:49
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Hi Alan,
Hope you and Sheila are in good health. From memory the building was owned by Martins Bank, which later became Barclays. As you rightly say Bibbys occupied the whole of the 7th floor as well as space in the basements. As a matter of interest other shipping lines which had offices in the same building were Moss Hutchisons, Athel Tankers and Booker Line. That's about all I can tell you Alan.
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Hi John, thanks, glad to report we are both well. Hope you and yours are in good health.
Thanks for info. I always thought Bibby's owned the building because they occupied the top of it.
Did Martins become Barclays, or did Barclays take Martins over?.

Remember when Bibby's ran their own travel agency to obtain cheaper flights for crew? Members of the public sometimes made it to the 7th floor. I remember there was a desk with a few brochures on it.
I ran out of leave once and being local, Roy Bateman asked me to come in and do some office work, mostly ships radio accounts. That was a strange working environment. I remember borrowing a stapler of someones desk, the owner nearly had a heart attack!
Then there was the secret removal of cups and mugs from draws followed by the race for the morning tea trolly to get the best biscuits.
One day I was head down in some accounts when I became aware that everyone was standing up, this was because Mr Bibby had just walked through the office.
I found the whole amosphere a bit "Mathew and Son" or perhaps like something from Dickens.
It really confirmed my dislike of 9 to 5 jobs and I was glad when my next ship came up.

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Hi Alan,
I seem to recall reading somewhere that A. Harold Bibby was also a director of Martin's Bank. Perhaps that was the connection? Pleased to hear that you are well.
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Old 13th October 2014, 12:43
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that A. Harold Bibby was also a director of Martin's Bank. Perhaps that was the connection? Pleased to hear that you are well.
Ken
Thanks Ken and nice to know you are still on board.
You could be right about Harold Bibby. Research shows that Martins Bank was a private London Bank taken over by the Bank of Liverpool in 1918. It was Bank of Liverpool and Martins and ended up as just Martins Bank. Its quite likely that important local business men like Bibby would be involved in such a venture.

Its supposed to be the only private bank to have its HQ ougtside London.

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New 5 Star Hotel for Liverpool

Hi all
More news just reported in the Liverpool Echo. Martins Bank Building is to be converted into Liverpools first five star hotel. Cost £40M to achieve. Will include fine dining etc. Wonder if you will be able to get genuine "scouse"

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Old 13th October 2014, 22:04
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Thanks for the report in the Liverpool Echo Alan regarding the conversion of Martins Bank Building to a five star hotel. Who would have thought all those years go when we were called into the office to be told what ship you were being posted to, that the building was destined to be a hotel.
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Old 13th October 2014, 23:37
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Thanks for the report in the Liverpool Echo Alan regarding the conversion of Martins Bank Building to a five star hotel. Who would have thought all those years go when we were called into the office to be told what ship you were being posted to, that the building was destined to be a hotel.
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Quite right John.
Just wondering where they are going to get 5 star guests from
All reports from people who stayed recently, indicate that the Adelphi (white elephant) hotel has slid further down. Poor catering, no heating in rooms, cold water etc. Its a shame someone does not do it up.

Further to Martins Bank Building, the Nations gold reserves were reportedly moved to the basement in WWII. I suppose it could have been moved onto ships quickly for USA if Adolf had invaded.

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Old 14th October 2014, 00:19
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The last time I was in Liverpool Alan we stopped at the Hampton by Hilton opposite the Albert Dock. I would not say it was 5 star but not far from it. The reason we picked the hotel was because of the location but also we had stopped at the Hampton by Hilton in Memphis when we visited Graceland, and have to say both hotels were excellent value. As for the Adelphi it has been in decline for several years now so your comments about the place does not surprise me. The whole of the Liverpool waterfront now has hotels to cater for all needs so I do not see a problem in filling a five star hotel. My loved one had never been to Liverpool and the first time I took her she fell in love with the city. I also showed her where I grew up in the Dingle, which came as a bit of a culture shock to her but we all have to start somewhere.
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The last time I was in Liverpool Alan we stopped at the Hampton by Hilton opposite the Albert Dock. I would not say it was 5 star but not far from it. The reason we picked the hotel was because of the location but also we had stopped at the Hampton by Hilton in Memphis when we visited Graceland, and have to say both hotels were excellent value. As for the Adelphi it has been in decline for several years now so your comments about the place does not surprise me. The whole of the Liverpool waterfront now has hotels to cater for all needs so I do not see a problem in filling a five star hotel. My loved one had never been to Liverpool and the first time I took her she fell in love with the city. I also showed her where I grew up in the Dingle, which came as a bit of a culture shock to her but we all have to start somewhere.
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Hi John, glad she loved the city but I'm surprised there was anything left of Dingle to show her, thought it had all been swept away.
Yes I have to agree there are some good hotels, we stayed in the Premier Inn on the docks just around the corner from the Beatles Story. The rooms were massive and the breakfast was quite good although we couldn't get a room for £29
Another good place is the Holiday Inn in Hoylake on my side of the river. Right next to the Railway station so straight into Liverpool Central, very convenient.
Hope you get to visit the city again shortly

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Old 14th October 2014, 14:42
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Hi John
Further to earlier, just had a "walk" around the Dingle on Google Maps and I must say it looks very smart and well cared for, especially the estate between Beresford Road and Garswood St with good views down to the Mersey. It looks as though plenty of money has been spent on these houses.

I just wonder if they were once "play streets" like were my Auntie lived. No through traffic was allowed so as to make the streets safe for kids.

Info on the net says that "Bread" was filmed around Elswick St and Garswood St and must say the view on Google looks very familiar.

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I remember Beresford road in the late 60's and early 70's when you could look down the road and see all the ships in the docks and at anchor in the river. Joined Bibby's in 1971 and stayed with them until they flagged out. When I joined my second company, the superintendent wouldn't believe my previous salary. Bibby's were awful wages but good in other ways and I would never say anything bad of the company or the people I sailed with.
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Bibby 1974 - 1982

Hello,

I'm David Richards and I joined Bibby Line in 1974 as deck gadget sailing on Herefordshire, Lancashire, Hampshire and Liverpool Bridge before going to Riversdale for 2nd Mates ticket.
Then in Silver Bridge, Dart Atlantic x 4, Wiltshire, Devonshire and Hampshire before Mates ticket at Fleetwood.
Came ashore and worked as a Harbour Master in the Isle of Man.
Joined the crew of my local lifeboat in 1984 and have been Coxswain since 2002.
Just wondering if there are any Bibs guys here from that era?
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David,
When did you join Herefordshire? I joined her in mid-December 74 in Salonika, Greece as C/O. Captain Waldie was in command at the time. We went around the Cape with a load of buses and cars from Italy to the Red Sea. After that, it was ballast passage to Indonesia to load manioc for Antwerp - my last deepsea voyage!
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Hi Ken,
I was aboard - we went to Assab with the buses and then to Pandjang where the manioc was loaded in bags which were then split open and poured out. My first experience of a bulk cargo!!!
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I have to confess that after all these years (40) I am having difficulty remembering you. You have set me off trying to recall some facts about the voyage - perhaps you can fill in some blanks for me. The ports were Salonika, Savona (or was it Genoa?), then round the Cape to Assab, Port Sudan, Djibouti for bunkers. We went to Panjang, the location of wasn't known to any of us on board. We loaded manioc in bulk as you describe and then sailed to Antwerp via Durban for bunkers. I think Panjang is located at the southern tip of Sumatra on the Sunda Strait, but I could be wrong. (Lat 5.27 S Long 105.18 E)
The outward cargo of buses and trucks was not the easiest to load. The charterers weren't keen on the old-fashioned concept of lashing the cargo in the holds and tweendecks. I protested vigourously which led to a flaming row between me and the captain until he went down below and had a look for himself. Because we needed the no.2 deep tank for ballast, we finished off with a lot of cargo on deck. The buses had to be stowed athwartships to get them all on and were overhanging the sides. We couldn't stow the derricks in their crutches at no.4 hatch as a result. The captain wouldn't have them lashed in their crutches up the Stulcken kingposts. The end result was that one of them broke loose as we rolled our way around Cape Aghulas and embedded itself and associated gear in some of the buses.
Crossing the Indian Ocean, the Chippy decided that the time had come to let go the port anchor as we were (in his mind) approaching port. Given that we were doing 17 knots and in about 15000' of water, his chances of living to see the ship brought up were somewhat slim. I was just handing over the watch to the 3rd. mate at the time when the Serang came charging up to the bridge to tell me what was happening. We charged up to the focsle in time to stop Chippy from swinging his hammer at the windlass brake and removed him in a none too gentle fashion. He had cleared away both anchors ready for letting go. The captain had stopped Chippy's tap a few days beforehand and DT's were setting in of course. No doubt you will remember standing watch on his cabin while he coped with large green fenders etc. trying to come in his cabin window.
The loading of manioc in Panjang was slow and very dirty. in the middle of loading we had to vacate the berth for a few days, which was a welcome chance to get the ship cleaned up.
The 2/O was Paul Bridgeman who was going for his Mate's ticket and then on to the Humber Pilotage. 3/O was a good lad named Jerry(?)
R/O was Mike Goulbourne with his wife Barbara. There were two other wives on board and two children. The Purser was Alan Reid. I can't remember any more names.
I had another job lined up so that was my last deepsea voyage.

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Sitting here puzzled as to why anyone loading cargo in a Greek port would then proceed to discharge ports in the Red Sea via the Cape of Good Hope, rather than via the Suez Canal. Please enlighten me.
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Suez was closed 1967-75, hence the long diversion.
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Doh! I should have checked before I posted that question. For some reason (possibly a mental confusion with the 6-Day War) my memory thought it was a 6-year war in 1967 and not 8 years long.
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