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Old 5th October 2010, 14:03
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The original question in this thread was about a floating dock docking in another dock.

Here is one.
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Old 15th February 2012, 00:01
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Hi All, I used to manage the design and maintenance of the last 7 UK floating docks, for the RN.

I have a metal blank of the AFD60 crest, this can be used as a plug to make moulds from.

The crest was not Official, she was never commissioned, the description is correct, it was neptune (or poseidin?, with a trident and a submarine, we used to joke that one of the last dockmasters, modelled for the character in the crest.

I also have amassed a collection of information.

History of all UK AFDs, and what happened to them
History of AFD60, and why it was located where it ended up, this includes details on all the dockmasters from the start to the end, it also lists all the ships docked by AFD60
I also have a very brief of why faslane, is where it is.
I have a set of layout drawings for AFD60 and AFD59 (AFD59 was much stronger, and did not suffer the overloading of thje tank bulkheads).

I also careened AFD60, in the early 90s, this was part of the drive to obtain a partial nuclear safety case for SRD.

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Old 18th February 2012, 15:21
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I think you can see the Icelandic/Faslane one on Google Earth in the town of Hafnarfjordur. I'd like to see some film of one of these things docking itself.
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Old 18th February 2012, 16:03
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I watched one day as they dismantled one of the floating docks in Hamburg, and docked each section sideways into another floating dock.
Then they shotblasted and painted the hulls. Four days later it was refloated and re-assembled.
German efficiency.
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Old 18th February 2012, 19:13
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theres a pic of an mod floating dock(cant remember what one it was), being towed away from rosyth in the early 90s.its in the rmas gallery under the name nimble.roo.
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Old 15th August 2012, 20:31
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Tom, I served on AFD60 at HMS Neptune (Clyde Submarine Base) 1968-1969.
"She" was built to dock down the four polaris submarines. I was not aware that AFD60 had a badge and would welcome a glimpse of it.

After the last Polaris boat was decommissioned (late 1990s) AFD60 was sold, I believe to Iceland. I have no proof of this but recall seeing a photo of AFD60 being towed out of the Gareloch, in the Navy News. For some time I tried to get a copy of that photo, but NN could not help unless I gave them a month and year.

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Hi i have the photo you are looking for ben please drop in and say hello and you are very welcom to copy the picture here is the link to the page http://www.facebook.com/#!/KilcregganMemories .Gail
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Hi All, I used to manage the design and maintenance of the last 7 UK floating docks, for the RN.

I have a metal blank of the AFD60 crest, this can be used as a plug to make moulds from.

The crest was not Official, she was never commissioned, the description is correct, it was neptune (or poseidin?, with a trident and a submarine, we used to joke that one of the last dockmasters, modelled for the character in the crest.

I also have amassed a collection of information.

History of all UK AFDs, and what happened to them
History of AFD60, and why it was located where it ended up, this includes details on all the dockmasters from the start to the end, it also lists all the ships docked by AFD60
I also have a very brief of why faslane, is where it is.
I have a set of layout drawings for AFD60 and AFD59 (AFD59 was much stronger, and did not suffer the overloading of thje tank bulkheads).

I also careened AFD60, in the early 90s, this was part of the drive to obtain a partial nuclear safety case for SRD.

Regards
HI, my father served on what i thought was AFD66 and 67 or 68 in 1944 1945 . AFD66 sunk in a storm in the bay of biscay under tow.
interesting story I will put in my website very soon.But official admiralty report is already there.
I cant fathom how numbers went as obviously newer and more recent docks have lower numbers.
AFd 66 perhaps refered to AUXILLARY floating dock, As they accomodated smaller vessels. refer to my website
the photos may help us.any help appreciated.
also any idea what a bumping circle is. Dad had a medal Portsmouth flotilla winner Bumping circle. some sort of sporting event.
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Old 18th February 2014, 08:42
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I worked on AFD60 twice the first time was in 1977 when I joined her she was in drydock in Port Glasgow for a 6 month docking and hull check, at that time I was killick stoker. she was affecionately known in Faslane as the penal colony due to the number of former inhabitants of RNDQ that were posted there. The crew were generally RN and a mix of Submariners and General Service led by a Lt Cdr Shipwright desiganated The Dockmaster.The second time was as a PO Stoker between 1982 -1985 during that time I became much more familiar with the operation of the dock and became qualified to sink and pump out with whatever we were docking all under the guidance of the Dockmaster (Mike Cammish & Charlie Chaplin are 2 I remember). The dock may not have been commisioned but we flew a White Ensign every day from a jackstaff outside the Valve House and woebetide anybody who forgot to see to the flag at colours.
The Monty Python theme tune was used to summon all hands to docking stations and man the capstans and breast for actually docking a vessel. in my second stint most vessels were piped into the dock by one of the Shipwrights Duncan MacKay from Inverness or a recording if Duncan was not available. One of the most memorable dockings we did was for a US submarine which lost her prop in the irish sea and had to be towed back to the Holy Loch only to find out that their drydock was broken so she was punted to Faslane for AFD60 to take of her. During her visit I was doing round of the dock bottom as duty senior rate and as i emerged from under the blocks supporting the boat I was presented with the business end of a pump action shotgun in the hands of a very short ethnic gentleman who demanded to know why i was snooping about the dock bottom, ther followed a stand off until their Duty Chief appeared and enlightened the young man to the fact that I was the defacto duty officer on the Dock and he better not piss me off. The duty Chief and myself then headed to the SR bar for something to calm my nerves.

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Hi All, I used to manage the design and maintenance of the last 7 UK floating docks, for the RN.

I have a metal blank of the AFD60 crest, this can be used as a plug to make moulds from.

The crest was not Official, she was never commissioned, the description is correct, it was neptune (or poseidin?, with a trident and a submarine, we used to joke that one of the last dockmasters, modelled for the character in the crest.

I also have amassed a collection of information.

History of all UK AFDs, and what happened to them
History of AFD60, and why it was located where it ended up, this includes details on all the dockmasters from the start to the end, it also lists all the ships docked by AFD60
I also have a very brief of why faslane, is where it is.
I have a set of layout drawings for AFD60 and AFD59 (AFD59 was much stronger, and did not suffer the overloading of thje tank bulkheads).

I also careened AFD60, in the early 90s, this was part of the drive to obtain a partial nuclear safety case for SRD.

Regards
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Old 18th February 2014, 08:53
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Cool Afd 60 FasLane

I worked on AFD60 twice the first time was in 1977 when I joined her she was in KG V drydock in Port Glasgow for a 6 month docking and hull check, at that time I was killick stoker. she was affecionately known in Faslane as the penal colony due to the number of former inhabitants of RNDQ that were posted there, despite this the crew were some of the most sociable characters I came accross in my time in the RN The crew were generally RN and a mix of Submariners and General Service led by a Lt Cdr Shipwright designated The Dockmaster, there were also 2 civillian crane drivers to cover operations during normal working hours. The second time was as a PO Stoker between 1982 -1985 during that time I became much more familiar with the operation of the dock and became qualified to sink and pump out with whatever we were docking all under the guidance of the Dockmaster (Mike Cammish & Charlie Chaplin are 2 I remember). The dock may not have been commissioned but we flew a White Ensign every day from a jackstaff outside the Valve House (the forward end) and woebetide anybody who forgot to see to the flag at colours.
The Monty Python theme tune was used to summon all hands to docking stations and man the capstans and breast for actually docking a vessel. in my second stint most vessels were piped into the dock by one of the Shipwrights Duncan MacKay from Inverness or a recording if Duncan was not available. One of the most memorable dockings we did was for a US submarine which lost her prop in the irish sea and had to be towed back to the Holy Loch only to find out that their drydock was broken so she was punted to Faslane for AFD60 to take of her. During her visit I was doing round of the dock bottom as duty senior rate and as i emerged from under the blocks supporting the boat I was presented with the business end of a pump action shotgun in the hands of a very short ethnic gentleman who demanded to know why i was snooping about the dock bottom, ther followed a stand off until their Duty Chief appeared and enlightened the young man to the fact that I was the defacto duty officer on the Dock and he better not piss me off. The duty Chief and myself then headed to the SR bar for something to calm my nerves.
I have a very greyish einsign in my loft which I salvaged from the skip and will someday give it pride of place in some space where it wont offend the wifes sense of taste.


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Hi All, I used to manage the design and maintenance of the last 7 UK floating docks, for the RN.

I have a metal blank of the AFD60 crest, this can be used as a plug to make moulds from.

The crest was not Official, she was never commissioned, the description is correct, it was neptune (or poseidin?, with a trident and a submarine, we used to joke that one of the last dockmasters, modelled for the character in the crest.

I also have amassed a collection of information.

History of all UK AFDs, and what happened to them
History of AFD60, and why it was located where it ended up, this includes details on all the dockmasters from the start to the end, it also lists all the ships docked by AFD60
I also have a very brief of why faslane, is where it is.
I have a set of layout drawings for AFD60 and AFD59 (AFD59 was much stronger, and did not suffer the overloading of thje tank bulkheads).

I also careened AFD60, in the early 90s, this was part of the drive to obtain a partial nuclear safety case for SRD.

Regards
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Old 18th February 2014, 10:32
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In the sixties, after steering gear failure, ended up in the floating dry dock at Haugesund, loaded condition, full cargo drummed carbide. I believe this German built dock had been brought over from Scotland, presumably a war prize. Washing and toilet facilities superior to many British dry docks.
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Duke and Orrs Drydock Melbourne - what a laugh, returning on board pissed and getting lifted on by a crane. Happy days.

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Old 26th February 2016, 20:28
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Afd 60

During my tenure in the RN (1963-75) as a Signalman, I was based at HMS Mercury 1966 - 67, and was drafted to AFD 60 as she, having just been built, was ready to be towed to Faslane in Scotland. I was billeted in HMS Victory (now Nelson) waiting for the "towing weather", which finally arrived during my second week there. Aboard the 60 there were approximately 20 dockyard personnel, 4 chefs (who were borrowed from one of London's prestigious hotels), an SBA and myself. The trip was uneventful and pleasant with calm seas and above average food. I do not remember the 2 tugs which towed us to our destination.
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Just as a quick aside, I was watching a floating dock with a submarine in it in Korea, with a few others.

The floating dock sunk and the submarine floated

"Are you sure that's right" came the dead pan comment
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Afd 60

In reply to yours. Not being an engineer myself I believe that the principle of a floating dock is to facilitate the repair of any ship/sub in a dock which floats. This is done by filling the inflatable tanks contained within the dock with water, allowing it to sink to a required depth, thereby the ship/sub is allowed entry and it is then refloated. A modern day floating dock is very self contained and provides living accommodation, galleys, workshops etc. for the required repair crew. Hope this is of some help.

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The DNV regulations for floating docks, have a "guidance note" for renewal surveys that the unit is dry docked if practical for the survey.
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The DNV regulations for floating docks, have a "guidance note" for renewal surveys that the unit is dry docked if practical for the survey.
Quite a common sight actually see a dry dock being dry docked
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