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Old 29th April 2018, 18:28
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Iron barque

Miniature iron barque under construction. Scratchbuilt.
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Old 30th April 2018, 12:05
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Looks to be another masterpiece.
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Old 30th April 2018, 13:22
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Thanks, I think it will be my best so far, as I am taking my time over it.
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Old 30th April 2018, 13:52
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A very instructive picture Bob of the method of construction. I will be following the build.
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Old 30th April 2018, 14:04
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This is what it was like 19 days ago!
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Old 30th April 2018, 22:19
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I think it wonderful, that such a beauty should emerge from such a crude beginning.
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Old 1st May 2018, 06:37
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I am certainly no great craftsman as far as carving is concerned, so I just fudge along the best way I can, usually bringing screams of anguish from skilled model shipbuilders. I have very little patience, and as far as I am concerned, the end justifies the means I don't have the money, space, time, or patience to bother with kits, and they are too limiting anyway, as they just seem to be an endless stream of warships with the obligatory Cutty Sarks, Victorys, Bountys and Titanics thrown in!
Here is a similar barque, but the one shown above will be shown in a sea under full sail.
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Old 1st May 2018, 09:50
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Very nice indeed Bob.
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Old 1st May 2018, 22:00
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Have you seen Basil Lubbock's books, available for free on the Internet, many fantastic pictures and also diagrams of hull forms.

https://archive.org/search.php?query=basil%20lubbock
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Old 2nd May 2018, 07:10
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I have a lot of the Lubbock books, but thanks for link, as there are one or two there that I do not have.
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This is what it was like 19 days ago!
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Zounds! Talk about ugly duckling! Thanks!
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Old 4th May 2018, 08:16
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A real ship!!!!
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Old 4th May 2018, 08:54
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Here are some small ladders. The rungs are 38 swg tinned copper wire. The sides are also tinned copper wire, but a bit thicker. The runbgs are soldered to the sides. It took about five minutes to make the pair of them.
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Old 4th May 2018, 13:46
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Bob, Nice ladder work, and think you for posting with the english pound and american quarter for scale. A big help as I do not see many english pound coins on this side of the pond.
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Old 4th May 2018, 14:25
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Smile

I specifically hung on to the quarter for that purpose, as I am aware that the majority of my readers are in the US. When rulers appear in the images, these days I use the decimal side, as in the past I have been asked what inches are I suppose just about everyone knows about millimeteres though! Did a lot more today, but it does not appear much because it is repetitive. Have coiled down the tiny ropes along the bulwarks next to the fore and mainmasts, & fife rail. Also fitted the poop ladders and handrails. Currently making the compass platform, after which I will post more images.
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Old 4th May 2018, 20:40
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Bob I can only marvel at what you can produce. In #7 you say you have no patience I wonder what you would come up with if you had.
It's a long time past since I tried building models of any kind to many other things take up my time.
F.J. suggested Basil Lubbock books for plans etc. ( Lubbock is my hero ) but for anyone into sailing vessel modeling David R MacGregor's book Fast Sailing Ships contains great plans and information and through his book he mentioned Captain H Paasch's Illustrated Marine Encyclopedia 1890. I have managed to find a copy published more recently at a moderate price It is one of the most explicit books on ships, sailing or early steam I have ever read.
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I have the 1894 edtion of Paasch, as you say, it is excellent. Also the MacGregor and Lubbock books. I do have a lot of ancient-blackened plans picked up over the years, and have taken to drawing new ones using the old ones as reference. It is too expensive buying them from museums, and then they want an extra load of cash if you have the audacity to want to publish them!.
I rarely spend more than 50 hours or so building a model, spread out over a few weeks, so I don't waste too much time on them. I simply could not face spending years builidng them, like some do! Here are two of my home-drawn plans. (I spent a year sailing in the Bandama).
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F.J. suggested Basil Lubbock books for plans etc. ( Lubbock is my hero ) but for anyone into sailing vessel modeling David R MacGregor's book Fast Sailing Ships contains great plans and information and through his book he mentioned Captain H Paasch's Illustrated Marine Encyclopedia 1890. I have managed to find a copy published more recently at a moderate price It is one of the most explicit books on ships, sailing or early steam I have ever read.
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I am a newcomer to Lubbock's books, I have just read "Jack Derringer" and bits of it are a bit over the top, but his description of trying to furl a sail in a gale is brilliant, very clearly descriptive and your heart is in your mouth. You are just lining up more books for me to find and read, I am going to need more time.
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Great stuff SB. Anyone interested in American/Canadian fishing schooners from the early twentieth century and further back should consult American fishing schooners from 1880-1920(?), not sure of the time frame. By Howard Chapelle. It contains Photographs,plans and drawings of every part of these ships with dimensions.
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I am a newcomer to Lubbock's books, I have just read "Jack Derringer" and bits of it are a bit over the top, but his description of trying to furl a sail in a gale is brilliant, very clearly descriptive and your heart is in your mouth. You are just lining up more books for me to find and read, I am going to need more time.
F.J. I came upon Basil Lubbock by chance. The Shore Bosun is a great reader and we used to go to the local library every week. while she was selecting her books I would browse the reference section and came across The Colonial Clippers by B.L. I found the information in it amazing there was all the old Aberdeen Sailing Ship Companies I had never heard of so I went looking for more of his books.
His first one was Round the Horn Before the Mast which is an account of his voyage in a sailing ship from San Francisco to England and from that he went on to record as much about the sailing ships before they disappeared.
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Old 5th May 2018, 17:59
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I just wrote a long comment back to you, adding very little but advancing nostalgia, but I miss spelt Privilege and the God of computers threw all my tears of memory away.
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Old 12th May 2018, 17:35
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After 49 hours work (timed on a stopwatch), spread over 32 days, the hull is now complete, and all ready for the masting and rigging. The hardest part is now over, as rigging these miniatures is far easier than making the hull and deck details. The ship will be shown in a sea, under full sail. I have already assembled the display case, but not veneered the edges yet. The sea and sea base have also been made, but not finalised yet. This model has followed the usual path as far as interest by fellow ship modellers is concerned. Namely, a small number who are interested, to begin with, but trailing off as the build progresses. Merchants ships (so I am often told), do not possess the appeal of warships, and therefore, we do not often see many models of them!
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Old 12th May 2018, 19:03
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The warship that equals the beauty of this iron barque has yet to be designed.
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Looks beautiful already.
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Good going, Bob! What fascinates me is the amount of detail in the fittings. A question - Are the "poles" on the bowsprit as-are on the real one or are they rigid fixing points for the sails/rigging?
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