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Who ever heard of a side-wheeler aircraft carrier?

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Old 23rd October 2018, 02:11
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Who ever heard of a side-wheeler aircraft carrier?

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<https://www.history.navy.mil/research/underwater-archaeology/sites-and-projects/aircraft-wrecksites/aircraft-wrecks-in-lake-michigan.html>

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The Navy's Historic Aircraft Wrecks in Lake Michigan

In August 1942, the US Navy commissioned USS Wolverine as its first in-land aircraft carrier. The Navy added USS Sable on May 8, 1943. Neither vessel ever left the Great Lakes. The Navy thought the Lake Michigan area, because it was so far inland, was an ideal training ground for its carrier pilots. Although limited training occurred in Virginia’s Chesapeake Bay, the majority of carrier qualifications during World War II occurred from the decks of Sable and Wolverine.

The Cleveland and Buffalo Transit Company launched Wolverine in 1913 under the name Seeandbee. At its launch it was the world’s largest side-wheel passenger steamer on inland waterways. Seeandbee represented the best of Edwardian passenger vessels. Its opulence and comfort were second to none on the lakes. Sable, launched as Greater Buffalo in 1924, eclipsed Seeandbee in size, thereby replacing it as the world’s largest side-wheel passenger steamer.

The U.S. Navy acquired both vessels shortly before World War II. The Navy converted them from passenger steamers into aircraft carriers for carrier operations training of Navy and Marine Corps pilots. Both vessels retained their coal driven, side-wheel, propulsion systems, making them the only side-wheel propelled carriers in the U.S. Navy. Although large, their 550’ decks were smaller than the Navy’s ocean going carriers and as such, provided excellent training platforms; if a pilot could make it on this deck, he could make it on any other deck in the Navy’s fleet.

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Old 23rd October 2018, 11:39
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Greg, I looked at the site on your link and it was interesting, are there any photos of the ships?

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Attached: Wolverine-Sable.jpg (49.2 KB)

It was this picture that my Dad took that spurred me to go looking.
This is the only picture I have seen and you cannot see much.

Google however came through in a small way: Attached

Wolverine-Sable.jpg (49.2 KB)
USS Sable 1945.jpg (81.1 KB)
USS_Sable_(IX-81).jpg (177.8 KB)
uss_wolverine_by_tacrn1-d5a1c45.jpg (19.8 KB)
wolv-1945-chicago-skyline.jpg (140.5 KB)

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Great photos Greg, historic for sure.
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Thanks Greg, good photos.
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Post Side wheel aircraft carriers

Both the carriers you are referring to were sold for scrap in 1947.

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There was an article on a Canadian aircraft website about these; I think it is a museum in the Ottawa area. They do a newspage which includes articles on flying, with a Canadian bias; but, unfortunately, I have lost the website sign in!
The side wheel carriers were in one of their articles. Well worth the read-if you can find the webpage!
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Found the initial webpage;

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNe...nd-Heroes.aspx

and the article;

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNe...-Carriers.aspx

If you scroll down the webpage, there a re a number of articles with an aircraft carrier/maritime slant; many have a Canadian bias, but not entirely. For instance, there is an article on USS SHANGRI-LA in WW2.

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This IS a very interesting article:

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Did you mange to read the article, though, Greg?

The weblink I posted works for me.

There are a number of other articles within the first link I posted with a maritime theme, including the Canadian aircraft carriers and their aircraft; Canadian aircrew in action from carriers, especially with the RN in the Far East towards the end of WW2; and a history of some of the escort carriers. Other stories may well have maritime links, you'll need to find them.....and not everything is Canadian biased.

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Old 5th January 2019, 18:02
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re: Did you mange to read the article, though, Greg?

Yes and I enjoyed seeing all of the photographs of the two vessels in port and in action on the lakes.

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