Asiafreighter - Page 9 - Ships Nostalgia
15:07

Welcome
Welcome!Welcome to Ships Nostalgia, the world's greatest online community for people worldwide with an interest in ships and shipping. Whether you are crew, ex-crew, ship enthusiasts or cruisers, this is the forum for you. And what's more, it's completely FREE.

Click here to go to the forums home page and find out more.
Click here to join.
Log in
User Name Password

Asiafreighter

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #201  
Old 19th January 2009, 18:26
John Cassels John Cassels is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
My location
Posts: 2,933
This is a load of codswallop , 41 knots over the ground , utter rubbish.
__________________
JC ; same initials-but the other guy did the miracles.
Reply With Quote
  #202  
Old 23rd May 2009, 06:39
Billieboy Billieboy is offline  
member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Department: Engineering
Active: 1962 - 1970
 
Join Date: May 2009
My location
Posts: 4,302
Smile High speed Boxers

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Cassels View Post
This is a load of codswallop , 41 knots over the ground , utter rubbish.
Depends on wether the tyres were wet, or dry slicks, anyway, the Pentland Firth is all downhill!
Reply With Quote
  #203  
Old 30th May 2009, 06:43
Steven Lamb Steven Lamb is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,944
Some interesting posts submitted. I for my sins was put on the "Asialiner" for a couple of trips in 74 as Jnr R/O after being a bad boy on my 1st trip to sea on an old Ore carrier. Nonetheless the training was excellent and I was fortunate to have three excellent ECO's push me along. Can only remember their 1st names ! (showing me age) they were :- wee Jack (fee Stonehaven I think ?) Robbie and Scouse Pete (think last name Johnson ?) You regular Denholm men would remember them. do you know where they are these days please ?
The Old Man (unforgettable) was Georgie Mayne and not sure if I did a trip with IC as old man - he was the chap involved in the Eurofreighter gas job.
I've since met Bill Maddox who was 3rd mate (from Dundee) who sadly packed in the sea on health grounds. The 2nd Engineer Ian was a jovial chappie from Barrow with good patter - wonder we he his these days ?
Highlights of the trip if you could them that ! were a quick waltz round Manhattan up the Empire state into Macy's a bit of shopping before getting back onboard and whizzing round to Baltimore or Norfolk - forgot the routing ?
Seem to remember ("rather well") the visit from the office girls in either Norfolk or Wilmington ? Ah well young & innocent but great !
And to top it off these fast boaties had draft beer onboard - luxury !
Reply With Quote
  #204  
Old 2nd June 2009, 00:22
eigyro eigyro is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 26
Hard to imagine Bill Maddox having health issues.
He was pretty good to me on my first trip as junior r/o on
Asiafreighter in early 74.
I enjoyed the trip but not the short turnarounds.
Went to Kuwait Shipping, general cargo, thereafter.
If you see Bill again, give him my best wishes.

cheers,

Fergus Kavanagh.

P.S Often wondered if they timed the Pentland passage to catch the tide.
Sure went through there fast.
Reply With Quote
  #205  
Old 2nd June 2009, 06:32
Steven Lamb Steven Lamb is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,944
Will do Fergus.

Rgds
Steve
Reply With Quote
  #206  
Old 3rd October 2009, 13:03
Jim ECO Jim ECO is offline  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 6
GTV Photos

I have dug out a couple more photos, one of "Big Bertha" and two of the Radio room.
Regards, Jim
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Big Bertha.jpg (115.8 KB, 128 views)
File Type: jpg Inmarsat Terminal.jpg (102.5 KB, 78 views)
File Type: jpg RadioRoom.jpg (80.0 KB, 87 views)
Reply With Quote
  #207  
Old 3rd October 2009, 13:19
Billieboy Billieboy is offline  
member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Department: Engineering
Active: 1962 - 1970
 
Join Date: May 2009
My location
Posts: 4,302
Screwed?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim ECO View Post
I have dug out a couple more photos, one of "Big Bertha" and two of the Radio room.
Regards, Jim
How come there are two different shaped screws on the ship? is the Port one a, "Good used", spare? The high speed is reflected in, "Edge Cavitation", which appears to have been polished out.
Reply With Quote
  #208  
Old 20th December 2009, 11:37
Gavin Naismith Gavin Naismith is offline  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4
Interesting article re: Seatrain, in the Wilmington Morning Star from 1980...

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=3285,2701050
Reply With Quote
  #209  
Old 11th January 2010, 09:19
clarkvw clarkvw is offline  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Asialiner - engineers tickets

Quote:
Originally Posted by japottinger View Post
What ticket did the Chief Engineer have, steam or diesel!
Originally combined tickets but reverted to motor as gas turbines classed as internal combustion engines - hope that helps!
Reply With Quote
  #210  
Old 19th August 2011, 21:27
Jim ECO Jim ECO is offline  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 6
I was in NY last year and this is what the Seatrain berth in Weehawken looks like now. Changed days.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Weehawken.jpg (266.2 KB, 85 views)
Reply With Quote
  #211  
Old 20th August 2011, 11:54
Malky Glaister Malky Glaister is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 854
Trying to think of something humorous about Bobby G but cannot.

Big changes indeed but the same for a very large number of such places.

regards Malky
Reply With Quote
  #212  
Old 20th August 2011, 19:25
John Cassels John Cassels is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
My location
Posts: 2,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malky Glaister View Post
Trying to think of something humorous about Bobby G but cannot.

Big changes indeed but the same for a very large number of such places.

regards Malky

Bobby G ?.
__________________
JC ; same initials-but the other guy did the miracles.
Reply With Quote
  #213  
Old 20th August 2011, 22:47
Malky Glaister Malky Glaister is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 854
R G Greenow esquire, South Wales, some place in the Vale of Neath I think.

Those who sailed with him, will remember Bobby G.

Absolutely lovely wife called Mai

Regards Malky
Reply With Quote
  #214  
Old 21st August 2011, 11:43
Tom S's Avatar
Tom S Tom S is offline  
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Department: Deck
Active: 1957 - 2003
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
My location
Posts: 515
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim ECO View Post
I was in NY last year and this is what the Seatrain berth in Weehawken looks like now. Changed days.
Quite amazing how the place has changed Time certainly marches on. Found this web page, http://www.hudsonplacerealty.com/hud...ListingID=3960
Wonder if Nick Konstantos is the maintenance man?
TomS
Reply With Quote
  #215  
Old 21st August 2011, 18:21
muldonaich muldonaich is offline  
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Department: Deck
Active: 1960 - 1990
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,405
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim ECO View Post
I was in NY last year and this is what the Seatrain berth in Weehawken looks like now. Changed days.
still belongs to the mafia by the look of things kev lol.
Reply With Quote
  #216  
Old 9th October 2012, 16:25
Bill61402 Bill61402 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 5
I know it's bad form to revive a long dead string, but I will give it a shot. I am a newbie and am considering writing a book on some of these great ships as well as the great diesel triple screw container ships from this time (Scan Dutch mostly)... kind of a "greyhounds of the cargo world" type book focusing on the early 70's before fuel economy was such a detractor. Still in very prelim research phase, but had a question for you gents after reading this amazing string that i was hoping you could help me with. What's the story with the engines in these ships? I mean I understand they were turbines, and I gather that the Asia ships had more power than the Euro Ships, but specifically, what were the differences, what engine models, was it just AsiaFreighter or both Asia ships that received bigger engines. I have heard the bigger engines referred to as "Dash 12, FT6A, JT9, C Type, FT4C" in this thread alone. Doing some homework, those are all different engines. Maybe they tried a number of different powerplants? Also, do you know of any good reference materials on these ships, blueprints, plans, etc.? Any help would be greatly appreciated and I apologize for resurfacing this thread, but the level of expertise on these posts is hard to ignore. Thanks in advance. -Bill

Last edited by Bill61402; 9th October 2012 at 16:53..
Reply With Quote
  #217  
Old 9th October 2012, 18:40
John Cassels John Cassels is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
My location
Posts: 2,933
Firstly , welcome to the site.

Afraid your questions will have to be answered by one of our engineering
brethern , but as far as I am aware it was only the Asiafreighter that had
the bigger engines. They were Pratt & whitney and the US navy always
seemed to be interested !.
__________________
JC ; same initials-but the other guy did the miracles.
Reply With Quote
  #218  
Old 9th October 2012, 18:56
Varley's Avatar
Varley Varley is offline   SN Supporter
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Active: 1971 - 2011
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,398
Both the Asia boats had gearboxes suitable for the more powerful "C" engine (as I remember them described) I never sailed on Asiafreighter which, like John I think was the only one to have them fitted.

Also understand that they were only used when US Navy (Coast Guard?) wanted test information. They were not interested in ruinning their engines with BFO - only MGT 7 for the Grey (White) fleet!.
Reply With Quote
  #219  
Old 9th October 2012, 20:10
Bill61402 Bill61402 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 5
Thank you both for the warm welcome and quick replies. The FT4C would make sense. The famous ferry Finnjet used two of those same engines and they were 70,000+ hp together. The acceleration must have been wild with big CP propellers. You fellas are a lucky lot to have had the experience you did! Was just doing some research on the triple diesel Container Ship Toyama. She was a real beauty and fast too, but not as exotic as the GTVs. Found interesting old catalog from a company which made reduction gears for the GTVs and they list the Euro ships as 60,000hp and both Asia ships as 70,000 which is in line with Varley's comments from a design perspective. Thanks again guys. Happy to hear from any others who care to weigh in. One can never have too much info.
Reply With Quote
  #220  
Old 9th October 2012, 21:05
Stephen J. Card's Avatar
Stephen J. Card Stephen J. Card is online now  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9,292
I'll never forget coming out of New York in EUROLINER in'72 bound Le Havre and working up to 28 knots.

Over the VHF...

"AMBROSE PILOTS, AMBROSE PILOTS, THIS IS SEALAND GALLOWAY. WE ARE SLOWING DOWN TO THIRTY KNOTS."

I thought that Bob Sharpe was going to be physically sick!

We passed a short while later. She had come over at 37 knots I believe, burning 500 tonnes of HFO per day!
Reply With Quote
  #221  
Old 9th October 2012, 21:39
Tom S's Avatar
Tom S Tom S is offline  
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Department: Deck
Active: 1957 - 2003
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
My location
Posts: 515
The asiafreighter had the larger turbines the Euroliner and Eurofreighter had Pratt and Whitney Turbo power FT4-12A turbines rated 30900bhp(m) (29719bhp) they were derived from the engines used on the Boeing 707.the vessels had two gs turbines totalling 59420shp driving Lips c- p propellers.Approx daily fuel consumption at 90 per cent power was 300 tons
Hope this helpsTomS
Reply With Quote
  #222  
Old 9th October 2012, 23:24
Bill61402 Bill61402 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 5
Thanks guys, this is all very helpful! Much appreciated. -Bill
Reply With Quote
  #223  
Old 10th October 2012, 08:36
John Cassels John Cassels is offline  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
My location
Posts: 2,933
Still remember leaving Le Havre on the Asiafreighter once.
Off shore wind , Norman Angus just let her drift off the berth a bit then put
her slow ahead. You could see the acceleration.

Those of us who sailed on the Seatrain ships , it sure was a lifetime experience.
__________________
JC ; same initials-but the other guy did the miracles.
Reply With Quote
  #224  
Old 10th October 2012, 09:10
oldseamerchant oldseamerchant is offline  
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Department: Navigation
Active: 1955 - 2005
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 333
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Kennedy View Post
The speed of these ships seems absolutely incredible.
I remember being on the wheel of a 'H' class Blue Funnel ship racing from Glasgow to Liverpool to catch the tide and as we passed out of the Clyde estuary, a submarine surfaced off the starboard bow, and promptly took off at high speed. within ten minutes she was gone. The officers in the wheelhouse were in awe at the speed and said it must have been in excess of forty knots.
Does anyone know just how fast a nuclear sub can go on the surface?
Best I've heard all week!
Reply With Quote
  #225  
Old 10th October 2012, 10:42
Varley's Avatar
Varley Varley is offline   SN Supporter
Senior Member
Organisation: Merchant Navy
Active: 1971 - 2011
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,398
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom S View Post
The asiafreighter had the larger turbines the Euroliner and Eurofreighter had Pratt and Whitney Turbo power FT4-12A turbines rated 30900bhp(m) (29719bhp) they were derived from the engines used on the Boeing 707.the vessels had two gs turbines totalling 59420shp driving Lips c- p propellers.Approx daily fuel consumption at 90 per cent power was 300 tons
Hope this helpsTomS
Tom, I think your fuel consumption would look more startling if you added "of paraffin".

Which was why the slops man in Rotterdam was always happy to see us until BFO! (I can't say really say "us" here as my too few trips were post introduction of BFO). What fun!

David V
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off




Support SN


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.