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Old 3rd December 2017, 20:11
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The "bald eagle ", also can't remember the name but remember he was east coast around Fife. He and I did a 6 week handover job on the Atholl Forest .1978 or so when she was sold to the Greeks.
"Rover " first name Cedric a most unlikely name for rough and tumble Rover. Saile a couple of times with him , last time was Nordic Crusader down at Ardjuna.
Roverís name was Cedric T Goodings, he was ex Blue Funnel. I sailed with him on the Scotspark in 1971 when he was 4th Engineer and I was Junior. Great guy.
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Roverís name was Cedric T Goodings, he was ex Blue Funnel. I sailed with him on the Scotspark in 1971 when he was 4th Engineer and I was Junior. Great guy.


Dougie,

When where you in Scotpark? I joined 11th November 1971 up in Thunder Bay.

John Alexander (Big John) was Chief Engineer and later Frank Semple.

I remember a Third Eng by the name of Goodings. Better known as 'Chief's Dog'. Something to do about the Chief coming out his door to find sleeping outside in the alleyway... hence 'Chief's Dog'.


A Jr. Engineer, I remember well, but only his nickname... 'The Bone'. As it was said, 'Elmer T. Bone, University of Oxford, Reading: Pornography'!!!!!!

Gerry Staub was 2nd Mate. Robbie Morgan 3rd Mate. Electrican Mervin Gowl. The Mate was Captain J. F. Mason, formerly Shaw Savill.

Eight months in Scotpark, Great Lakes to Rotterdam and then Shields for DD. Then down to two runs to Geelong to Alexandra and then pay off at Cristobal. Great ship.

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Old 3rd December 2017, 23:47
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Dougie,

I should have checked your stats and photo. Well, it has been 46 years since Scotpark, but I would swear it is your photo... you are 'The Bone'!!!! Well well. Great to see you here on SN.

Do you remember the evening ashore in Rotterdam? Went to the Flying Angles Club and as we came through the door we saw the guys rolling the kegs across the bar room. We made a fuss about 'Having in Heaven' and were promptly chucked out!!!! Next morning John Alexander found Rover sleeping his door... again 'Chief's Dog'.

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When I was with Denholms sm in.late50ties early 60ties the management was split into 4groups A.B.C.D- anyone know if any of the group managers are still with us?
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Dougie,

I should have checked your stats and photo. Well, it has been 46 years since Scotpark, but I would swear it is your photo... you are 'The Bone'!!!! Well well. Great to see you here on SN.

Do you remember the evening ashore in Rotterdam? Went to the Flying Angles Club and as we came through the door we saw the guys rolling the kegs across the bar room. We made a fuss about 'Having in Heaven' and were promptly chucked out!!!! Next morning John Alexander found Rover sleeping his door... again 'Chief's Dog'.

Stephen

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Hello Stephen,

Yes, itís me Jim Boyd. I wish I was as thin now that someone would give me the nickname Bone.

The Scotspark was a great ship with a really good lot of guys on her. We were poor but happy, as they say. My first Denholm ship was the Beaufort Sea, with Bobby Kinder and after that the Scotspark was brilliant.

Iíve been retired now for 7 years and really enjoying it. I still keep in touch with Hamish Harrower from our times on the Dalma and the Broompark and Ronnie Keir from the GTV Euroliner and Eurofreighter days. I had a very pleasant lunch with Ronnie last month, he is also retired now.

All the best,

Jim.
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Hello Stephen,

Yes, itís me Jim Boyd. I wish I was as thin now that someone would give me the nickname Bone.

The Scotspark was a great ship with a really good lot of guys on her. We were poor but happy, as they say. My first Denholm ship was the Beaufort Sea, with Bobby Kinder and after that the Scotspark was brilliant.

Iíve been retired now for 7 years and really enjoying it. I still keep in touch with Hamish Harrower from our times on the Dalma and the Broompark and Ronnie Keir from the GTV Euroliner and Eurofreighter days. I had a very pleasant lunch with Ronnie last month, he is also retired now.

All the best,

Jim.
Jim , if you see Ronnie again , give him my regards . Sailed with him on both the GTV's when I was mate.
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Jim,

Good to hear from you. Wish you long and happy retirement! I just hit my own 'retirement' day and I've got a bucket list of works that I want to do so I will wait for another ten years... or more.

What date did you leave Scotspark? April '72... Gibraltar? I was with Bobby Kinder in the Pioneer in '70, but I think he went to the Beaufort Sea after that. The firm was quite small, relatively, in the early 70s. Everyone knew everyone. Seemed to explode a few years later.

Thanks for teaching me the ballast system in Scotspark. Fun playing down in 'Toy Town'. :-)

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Jim , if you see Ronnie again , give him my regards . Sailed with him on both the GTV's when I was mate.
Hello John,

No problems, Iíll let Ronnie know that you are asking for him. Frank Brown and Davie Marshall were the Mates on the GTVís when I was there.
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Old 4th December 2017, 11:51
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Jim,

Good to hear from you. Wish you long and happy retirement! I just hit my own 'retirement' day and I've got a bucket list of works that I want to do so I will wait for another ten years... or more.

What date did you leave Scotspark? April '72... Gibraltar? I was with Bobby Kinder in the Pioneer in '70, but I think he went to the Beaufort Sea after that. The firm was quite small, relatively, in the early 70s. Everyone knew everyone. Seemed to explode a few years later.

Thanks for teaching me the ballast system in Scotspark. Fun playing down in 'Toy Town'. :-)

Best,

Stephen
Enjoy your retirement when you get round to it. I left the Scotspark on the 13th March 72 from Augusta, Sicily. I left with Frank Semple, Chief Engineer.

Happy Days indeed.
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I've been retired now for about five years, but I was in Denholms from 1976 to 1989. I was on the following ships. Does anyone remember me. I'm afraid the memory is going a bit now, so I need reminding.
Burmah Garnet, Nordic Louisiana (I remember that Bobbie Kinder was Old Man), Industria, London Team, Burmah Pearl, Eden Bridge (later, Cast Petrel), Arctic Troll, Cast Osprey, Cast Cormorant, Cast Narwhal, Scandia Team, Helm, Bise and Pacific Express. I later met Bobbie Kinder in the US when he was a surveyor. A good guy.
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I've been retired now for about five years, but I was in Denholms from 1976 to 1989. I was on the following ships. Does anyone remember me. I'm afraid the memory is going a bit now, so I need reminding.
Burmah Garnet, Nordic Louisiana (I remember that Bobbie Kinder was Old Man), Industria, London Team, Burmah Pearl, Eden Bridge (later, Cast Petrel), Arctic Troll, Cast Osprey, Cast Cormorant, Cast Narwhal, Scandia Team, Helm, Bise and Pacific Express. I later met Bobbie Kinder in the US when he was a surveyor. A good guy.
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Old 24th June 2018, 22:40
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Enjoy your retirement when you get round to it. I left the Scotspark on the 13th March 72 from Augusta, Sicily. I left with Frank Semple, Chief Engineer.

Happy Days indeed.


Ah! Just saw this one. I was the 'lucky' one. Joined Thunder Bay in November and remained until the July 72. I had left home on 2 January 1971... 18 months. 'Very' lucky. ;-) have to admit, SCOTSPARK was a good ship for me. Plenty of sea days and the Mate (Mason) left me alone to do my own. The crew food was good too! I was invited into the crew messroom twice a week. I was sworn to secrecy by the Bosun and Ch Steward.

I was also in GLENPARK in '76 as 2/M. Also a good ship. I had WELLPARK for four month tour as well. The Connell ships were better!

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Old 25th June 2018, 09:19
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Ah! Just saw this one. I was the 'lucky' one. Joined Thunder Bay in November and remained until the July 72. I had left home on 2 January 1971... 18 months. 'Very' lucky. ;-) have to admit, SCOTSPARK was a good ship for me. Plenty of sea days and the Mate (Mason) left me alone to do my own. The crew food was good too! I was invited into the crew messroom twice a week. I was sworn to secrecy by the Bosun and Ch Steward.

I was also in GLENPARK in '76 as 2/M. Also a good ship. I had WELLPARK for four month tour as well. The Connell ships were better!

Stephen
I notice you said we had “Plenty of sea days”. I’m sure we did about 5 weeks at sea from Alexandria to Geelong when Suez was closed in 71. We had to go the long way round but I can’t remember have a stop at sea during that voyage. Maybe you could confirm. Great ship indeed and a good bunch of guys.
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Old 1st July 2018, 12:32
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Checking my 'book of Voyages' it reads,

Thunder Bar 10 Nov 1971 Joined, Loading Grain
Rotterdam Flying Angels Club... and I don't think any more 'comments'!
North Shields Drydock
Geelong Load Grain
Gibraltar Bunkers
Alexandria Discharge
Geelong Load Grain
Alexandria Discharge
Cristobal Bunkers 2 July 1972



Masters: E, Watson, Fred Hutchings, Ian Wildish.
Mate: James F. Masson, Captain, Shaw Savill !!!!! J.B. Edgar
2/O Gerry M. L. Staub, 3/O Robbie R. Morgan
Chief Eng John Alexander, F. Semple
Elect: M. Gowl
Jr. Eng Jim Boyd
3/E C.T. Goodings


Notes: Inbound Straits of Gib for Alex and we passed Glenpark in ballast. (I took a couple of photos of the ship... distant shot),


We bunkered at Gibraltar. We came alongside near midnight and crowd of us were straight up to the town. Perhaps you were on board for bunkering? In the morning we sailed. Again, I have photos taken at Gibraltar, including a photo of the 'MATSAS' at anchor. This was the famous tug TURMOIL.

You left Augusta 13 March 1972 and must have been after discharge Alexandra. I don't make any other notes, not even a mention of Augusta. Possibly just the crew change and nothing else. I wish I had kept dates for all of the ports.

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Old 1st July 2018, 19:04
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Thanks Stephen, Thank goodness you have your notes. Newcastle, England to Geelong May have been longer than 35 days at sea? In the words of the song “Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end. Jim.
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Hey Jim,

I made a mistake above. I said that we had bunkered at Gib BEFORE Alexandria. It made sense... making that long voyage from Geelong to Alex without bunkered. Then I said that the call at Augusta when you paid off is not in my notes. Well, I have checked my trusty "Book of Voyages". It says that we DID call at Gib AFTER Alexandria and no mention of Augusta. Then I went to Denholm News Summer 1972. Here is what it says:


SCOTSPARK arrived Geelong 14th January (1972) and loaded a cargo of grain for Alexandria where she completed on 11th March. It was planned to bunker at Augusta, load spares and effect officer reliefs but in this event, although the vessel, industrial action prevented bunkering and it was necessary to proceed Gibraltar for refuelling. The vessel then proceeded once more to Australia completed loading at Geelong on 19th May and is presently due in Alexandria on 2nd June.

Got all this? Now here is the rub.....

"Captain Wildish relieved Captain Hutchings and Chief Engineer Alexander relieved Mr Semple at AUGUSTA." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All I can figure is that the ship did call at Gib as I said in my book but I did not mention about Augusta as it was just a call for 'crew change' ONLY. I guess you left the ship there in the middle of the night!


I think I was thrown out because the photos of Gib (with Turmoil) are shown in my album and I took a couple of photos in Alexandria are shown AFTER Gib. I didn't take many.... but possible the photos are out of sequence!

Photos Christmas Day Dec 1971. Sparkie, Gerry Staub and Robbie Morgan with Chim Shu (QM)Ö. and Gerry and self. I remember well the 'unplanned' stop at Noon! I was told to ring the Alarm Bells at the second of Noon. Robbie blew the horn and Gerry rang the telegraph... all at the exact same second. Only problem is when Gerry took the telegraph went from Full Ahead straight to Full Astern and back to Full Ahead... she was still in Bridge Control! I heard the engineers were sitting at captain's quarters for the Christmas Touborg beer (gift from Head Office) when the telegraphs went there was some 'problems' and it was another hour or so get going again. Gerry with egg all over his face!

Stephen
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Old 2nd July 2018, 17:06
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Hello Stephen,

The photos are great, thanks for posting them. I remember leaving the Scotspark in Augusta but it was definitely during daylight hours. As far as I remember we left via the Pilot ladder and didn’t meet our reliefs.

To fill in your list of personnel the Second Engineers when I was there were
Oswald Bartlett who I believe was relieved by David Blaine. Rover (C.T.Goodings) joined as 4th Engineer after 4th Engineer Adrian Goodwin lost the top of his finger. Rover must have been promoted to 3rd Eng after that. Jim.
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Thanks Jim,

All I can say is that you missed a good run up the town in Gib!

After the last run to Alexandria I was fairly certain that I would be... almost 18 months away. The orders were for yet another run to Geelong and that I would be relived in August that year.... perhaps! In the end orders changed for Panama so they sent me home. Spent five days in 'detention' in the US Immigration camp at Panama Canal area. Not allowed to go anywhere. Great camp! Huge accommodation for officers and another building for crew. I was the only 'officer' in that block. They didn't want me to eat at the crew mess room either! Finally they relented and at least I could speak to people. The only thing I was allowed to come over the Miraflores Locks to watch the ships pass.
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Old 24th November 2018, 14:14
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I was on the Norvegia Team Sept 77 to March 78
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Hi Still alive - ex Diamond D Second Steam....Started on Diesel until they found out I was Ex Weirs....Loch Long, Sig Ragne, Loch Lomond, Loch Maree ,Nordic Clansman, Nordic Commander, Nordic Clansman, Nordic Commander.
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Nordic Commander

Here are some photos of the Nordic Commander. I joined the Nordic Commander of Sharjah in the Arabian Gulf in May 1976. The ship had a photographic darkroom. All the equipment was still boxed up. So I unpacked it and set up the darkroom. Some of the chemicals had gone off in storage. I ordered new chemicals which we received at Capetown.
These photos were all developed on board. I scanned them from the negatives with a 35mm scanner. The Website significantly reduces the image size. The original scans are about 5500 x 3800 pixels.
I will post some more soon.
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Here are some more.
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Nordic Commander 3

NC 14 is me posing at the electrical main board.
If anyone can put names to the people in NC17 I would be grateful.

I have some more photos but I'll need to scan them. Some of them are 120 film shot on my Rolleicord twin lens reflex. I might have to print those then scan the prints as I don't have a 120 size neg scanner.

I took some which were printed in Denholm News at least one of them had the caption Nordic Clansman!
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