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Old 21st January 2012, 14:59
Freddy01 Freddy01 is offline  
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Info asked on T. E. Evans & Co Ltd.

Hello,

I am looking for info about the London-based " T. E. Evans & Co Ltd." during W.W. 1
Their ships had a red Malta-cross on a white band on their funnel.
In fact I am looking for a list of their sunken ships during W.W.1.
Do this company have a web-site or is mentioned on a web-site ?

Thank you for cooperation.
Regards,
Freddy.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:02
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Hello,

I am looking for info about the London-based " T. E. Evans & Co Ltd." during W.W. 1
Their ships had a red Malta-cross on a white band on their funnel.
In fact I am looking for a list of their sunken ships during W.W.1.
Do this company have a web-site or is mentioned on a web-site ?

Thank you for cooperation.
Regards,
Freddy.
I cannot find any trace of this company prior to 1927 when they purchased three elderly steamers. In the mid-30's they built a set of coasters.

T.E.Evans & Co
PURLEY BEECHES 3265g. / 1895 O.N. 106404. Acquired 1927
PURLEY OAKS 4795g. / 1907 O.N. 149786. Acquired 1927
PURLEY DOWNS 3929g. /1908 O.N. 128484 Acquired 1927
ANDONI 308g./1935 O.N. 164495
ASHANTI 534g./1936 O.N. 164622
BENGUELA 534g./1936 O.N. 164641
CABENDA 534g./1936 O.N. 164672
LOANDA 534g./1936 O.N. 164698
ANDONI 678g. 1937 O.N. 165575
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Old 22nd January 2012, 13:02
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Thanks BillH for your quick response.

In fact I am trying to IDy a ship sunken between 1914 and 1918 of which I putted a picture on this forum (See : Gallery - Need A Ship Identified ? Ref. Coll Freddy_FTB03339 – Posted 4 January 2012).

On that Forum “Davidship” said : London-based T E Evans & Co Ltd had funnel like this (red cross on white band), but I have no fleet list for them.”

I first agreed, but if you say that there is no trace of this company before 1927 … it couldn’t match with “my ship”. Isn’t it ?

Any other idea ?
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Freddy.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 16:03
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Thanks BillH for your quick response.

In fact I am trying to IDy a ship sunken between 1914 and 1918 of which I putted a picture on this forum (See : Gallery - Need A Ship Identified ? Ref. Coll Freddy_FTB03339 – Posted 4 January 2012).

On that Forum “Davidship” said : London-based T E Evans & Co Ltd had funnel like this (red cross on white band), but I have no fleet list for them.”

I first agreed, but if you say that there is no trace of this company before 1927 … it couldn’t match with “my ship”. Isn’t it ?

Any other idea ?
Best regards,
Freddy.
Are you certain of the image being taken during WW1?

All the coasters that Evans owned 1936 onward had plain buff coloured funnels as far as I have viewed on photos and a colour photo of a builder's model.

However that does not say that the same was used on the three larger vessels as the photo link provided by David would suggest.

PURLEY BEECHES went for scrap in 1928
PURLEY OAKS went for scrap in 1936 so both of these can be ruled out having survived to the breakers yard.

However PURLEY DOWNS was sold for further trading in 1935 to become HENDRIK for Euxine Shipping. When exactly in 1935 she was sold, I do not know, but we do know that she was stranded / wrecked of the SW Spanish coast on 15th April 1935.
A hypothetical suggestion - If sold March / April, could it have been possible that although the vessel had been renamed the funnel still had yet to be painted and could this actually be the vessel in your photo?

Is it a ship sinking or is it a vessel stranded, I leave to you.


PURLEY DOWNS (1927 – 1935)
O.N. 128484. 3,929g. n. 103.8 x 15.4 metres
T.3-cyl. 9kts.
15.7.1908: Launched as GWLADYS by R. Stephenson & Company, Hebburn (Yard No. 116) for Gwladys Steamship Company Ltd, Cardiff
9.1908: Completed.
1914: Sold to Universal Steam Navigation Company Ltd
1924: Sold to Regier Shipping Company Ltd, London and renamed CROMERTON
1925: Sold to Anglo Commercial Shipping Company Ltd
1927: Sold to T.E.Evans & Company Ltd, London and renamed PURLEY DOWNS
1935: Sold to Euxine Shipping Company Ltd, and renamed HENDRIK
15.4.1935: Whilst on a voyage from Antwerp to Alexandria wrecked at position 36.02N., 5.42W. off S.W. Spain.
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Old 23rd January 2012, 14:47
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Hello BillH,
Yes, I am almost certain that this image has been taken during WW1, because I found a other one, taken at the same time, from the same hook, from a German sub (you see her starboard side), showing the ship sinking deeper and a rescue life boot leaving her with some people on board.

Meanwhile maybe another alternative.
Could it be the BEN CRUACHAN (1902) from the John Morrison & Son Ltd. - Newcastle-on-Tyne, sank on the 30 January 1915 ?
I don’t have any picture or references of this ship to compare with.

Or any other (better) idea ?

Best regards,
Freddy.
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Old 6th January 2013, 17:24
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Simon

Hi Freddy,

Do you mind if I ask as to the reason for your inquiry? The reason i ask is that my Great Grandfather was Thomas Edward Evans, the principal of TE Evans & Co. and I'm trying to gather information on the business.

Regards

Simon
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Old 7th January 2013, 09:52
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Hello Simon,

I absolutely don’t mind.
The reason is that since more than 2 years I desperately try to ID, to put a name on this sinking ship shown on the picture. (see : Need A Ship Identified, dated, 26 December 2012.)

As you can see, the funnel of this ship is a red Maltese cross on a white band and I was told that there were not so much (allied or neutral) possible companies using such a type of funnel; one of them should be TE Evans & Co.

Because I couldn’t find any picture of ships of this C to compare with, or even a listing of their cargo-ships lost during the period 1914 -1918, I also putted a message on this forum, hoping a reactive from somebody.

Thank you for your question an interest,
Best regards,
Freddy.

My (official) e-mail address is : [email protected]
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