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From Minneapolis/St. Paul Business Journal

A jury has ordered Pentair Inc. to pay $193 million to a cruise line for commercial damages in a 1994 case involving an outbreak of Legionnaire's Disease.

The case is against a Pentair subsidiary, Essef Corp., which Pentair acquired in 1999, after the event occurred.

Golden Valley-based Pentair (NYSE: PNR), makes water pumps, valves and equipment. In a response, Pentair officials said the jury's decision is not consistent with the law and plans to contest the decision.

The plaintiff in the case, Celebrity Cruise Lines Inc., is seeking attorney and litigation fees as well as lost profits and loss of business value because of the outbreak.

Pentair said it will update its guidance for 2006 in late July as a result of the case.


Topical after all the goings-on over the past few weeks.!

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Legionnaire's Disease is totally different to stomach bugs affecting cruise ships or indeed other establishments shoreside.

The germ which causes Legionnaire's Disease is a bacterium called Legionella Pneumophila. In other words, it is a type of pneumonia. It is similar to flu. However it can also cause nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea and abdominal pains which could confuse some people.

People catch it by inhaling small droplets of water suspended in the air which contain the Legionella bacterium. But most people exposed to it, do not become ill. It does not spread from person to person.

The bacterium which causes Legionnaire's Disease is widespread. It mainly lives in water. It is all around us from the pond in your garden, stagnant water in rain tanks to air conditioning systems. Bascially, outbreaks occur from purpose built water systems where temperatures are warm enough to grow the bacteria such as evaporative condensors, cooling towers, jaccuzi and so on as well as domestic use be it hospitals, cruise ships, hotels or whatever. Companies must comply with regulations regarding these sytems. But like so many diseases today, they are caused by our own success or in some cases our interference with nature.

I will not comment on the above story started by Rushie because it seems the company concerned are contesting the decision. However, having explained how the bacterium forms, you can draw your own conclusions?!. David
 

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But surely....

This case dates back to over 10 years ago...and it's Carnival (not some Bilge-Monster Cruise Lines out of Salmonellaville)..!

Surely if people would be aware of such cases, then they wouldn't cruise with said firm..?...or perhaps you take the chance.?..Don't think it appeals to me, and don't think I would...

I leave it up to the people who have been on cruises to judge....I have in my own mind that it can happen in any hotel on the Costa del Sol...commercialism rules...apparently...!!

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Legionnaire's Disease or Gastroenteritis of it's various forms are not confined to cruise ships Rushie. The same applies to hotels or any establishment shoreside including our own homes. Indeed, our biggest work came from the latter. With the warm weather in the UK at present, and the Barby at full swing, my former department is very busy and will be even more so on Monday with a hot weekend forecast. I was up there today for a visit. Yet you will not hear about this in the news. But in reality, there has been more cases tested in my former department alone over the past month than reported from cruise ships this year. Yet if a cruise ship is affected, it is front page news. I am not taking the side of cruise companies, but putting things into perspective. Cases that are publicised be it a cruise ship or shoreside establishment are just the tip of a very big iceberg. David
 

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Had my dinner two hours ago and feel a little bloated, its not quite sure which way to go but I expect things will work out in the end. (EEK)
 

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Agreed...

....but after what we've heard about over the last few weeks (not - thankfully Legionnaire's oubreak), we should be wary of what's going on.?

After the cruise of the Van Gogh was cancelled due to Gastrorentoritas...she had the same problem 2 weeks ago at Harwich, and people were held back for a mere 3 hours before sailing whilst they "cleaned her"..come on..!

It appears that money comes before people's health..afterall...once aboard, the operator can claim on insurance for refunds.

Call me a cynic or what....

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rushie said:
This case dates back to over 10 years ago...and it's Carnival (not some Bilge-Monster Cruise Lines out of Salmonellaville)..!

Surely if people would be aware of such cases, then they wouldn't cruise with said firm..?...or perhaps you take the chance.?..Don't think it appeals to me, and don't think I would...

I leave it up to the people who have been on cruises to judge....I have in my own mind that it can happen in any hotel on the Costa del Sol...commercialism rules...apparently...!!

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A minor, but rather important comment Rushie, is that Celebrity is owned by Royal Caribbean and not their bitter enemy, Carnival.

Fred
 
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