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I confirm what Roddy says the bow thruster was pretty useless and vey unreliable you could never ever depend on it.
Both Charleston at the bridge and Wilmington NC could be very scary found using the escort tug on the shoulder pretty effective in these ports. As long as you had both engines the the ships were pretty manoeuvrable and could be a joy to handle,it was a different ball game after Big Bertha was fitted at slow speeds the larger prop put a bit of a drag on the ship and you had to constantly compensate for this when manoeuvring
 

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the paxman gennie was a piece of crap on the seatrain ships i remember it bursting into flames on the eurofreighter just of the berth in new york engineroom full of co2 what a mess tugs holding us in mid river kev.
I remember that quite well, we were berthed waiting to leave on another - perhaps Asiafreighter.

To be picky, though it was doubtless a Paxman, did the label not say English Electric?

From memory, it didn't quite burst into flames, but blew an exhaust gasket, causing it to blow dense smoke into the Engine Room.

The Chief (Alec Young?) opened the Engine Room door, saw the extent of the smoke, concluded they could not get in, shut down the diesel I suppose, and released the CO2.

However, both main engines were kept running as usual, and the shaft gennies were on line, so she berthed quite normally as soon as we sailed.

I remember it was a public holiday weekend, maybe Easter. Even before we sailed, Nick Constantis was rounding up men and refilling facilities, ready to get the 96? bottles off and recharged.

From what we heard he was entirely successful and she sailed on time - bottles out, ashore, refilled, refitted all in about 24 hours. American can do at its best!

Re the Diesel Alternators, at first they used to run them during Standbyes, but because the shaft generators were on too they were on very light load and rattling themselves to bits.

The procedure was then modified and they were test started before End of Passage and then shut down ready for action if required, before being put on line at FWE.

That is how I remember it anyway - Particulars Believed Correct But Not Guaranteed!
 

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hi roddie it was the fuel pipe that fractured and sprayed on to the exhaust pipeand burst into flames but im sure it was a paxman engine remember alec very well good guy kev.
 

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Sorry K they were labelled English Electric according to my notes. As far as I know and I stand to be corrected, they were built in same factory, but Paxman's as fitted to Naess Parkgate etc. were for for marine use and English Electric nameplate were for use in diesel trains, how the GTV's got railway ones don't know but maybe that is why they were nightmares
 

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Sorry K they were labelled English Electric according to my notes. As far as I know and I stand to be corrected, they were built in same factory, but Paxman's as fitted to Naess Parkgate etc. were for for marine use and English Electric nameplate were for use in diesel trains, how the GTV's got railway ones don't know but maybe that is why they were nightmares
I read a newspaper article not that long ago. We understood (didn't we?) that their record on BR was good (a track record, sorry) and that we were misusing them in some way. Evidently the railways were being told exactly the same thing in reverse and that they were no more reliable on wheels than when on plates "They have a perfectly good reputation at sea it's something you are doing with them".
 

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Sorry K they were labelled English Electric according to my notes. As far as I know and I stand to be corrected, they were built in same factory, but Paxman's as fitted to Naess Parkgate etc. were for for marine use and English Electric nameplate were for use in diesel trains...
The modernisation of the UK's railways, with the ending of steam locomotion, created a market for suitably-size diesel engines. Paxman had a range of engines that could be developed for that market and they worked closely with English Electric until they were absorbed by the larger group in 1965. Not too long afterwards, both were subsequently subsumed into Arnold Weinstock's GEC empire.
 

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The modernisation of the UK's railways, with the ending of steam locomotion, created a market for suitably-size diesel engines. Paxman had a range of engines that could be developed for that market and they worked closely with English Electric until they were absorbed by the larger group in 1965. Not too long afterwards, both were subsequently subsumed into Arnold Weinstock's GEC empire.
i dont know who built them but it was paxman engineers two of them flew out to carry out tests and repairs if my memory serves me right they found some of the engine bed bolts had sheared as well brgds kev.
 

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No Paxman built engine fitted in a locomotive was a success on British Railways.
They were all diabolical and none survived more than ten years.

However.The Valenta engine fitted into the HST power cars was undoubtedly highly successful. They have almost all been replaced by a modern MTU machine.

English Electrics on the other hand were highly successful. Class 40s and 50s a testament to this and also the smaller 20s still in use today fifty years old. There is still a small army of shunters with EE engines fitted.

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With ref to bow thrusters. I did a year 3/mate Asialiner/Asiafrieihter can rember having to phone down engine room when about to operate thrusters on a river passage. Also a few years later on another vessel - Broompark I think - I was talking to the Savanah pilot about this and he said that after the engine refurbishment they were not as good as manouovering round the river's bends as before.

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rustons were notorious for breaking rockers and popping thro cast ally rocker covers ,sailed with many usually dg sets but also ME Thro gear box with variable pitch the gtv ,s had only 1 dg with shaft alternators i joined gtv eurofreigher in greenock the day elvis died
 

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What was the name of the 2nd Mate we had on the Container Ships who was studying for his BSC and his thesis was on raindrops? I remember he used to appear everytime it rained and caught raindrops measured the size and density of them. I believe he went on to do a Phd and became a lecturer at Southampton Uni?
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Rather late in making the effort. Trawling through threads before I joined SN, with nothing else to do, but don’t tell the wife.

It may have been Chris Walmsley from the Wirral, he was also very good at drawing with chalks. I didn’t know about the rain drops but do recall his mentioning university.

I was relieving ECO on all four GTVs and was on the Eurofreighter for the duration of the 76 drydocking in Falmouth and the BFO system.

I remember Ronnie Keir, Rab Fraser and Gerry Morrison. I also recall several T shirts emblazoned with a big red tongue with the statement
“BFO Sucks”

Being 1976 (the so called last hot summer) the Mr Whippy ice cream van was parked on the road up to the castle. We were one of the star attractions in Falmouth at the time.

The Railway pub outside the dock gate saw us on several occasions.

As they say, you could write a book.

Peter
 

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Gas turbine container ships

Whilst browsing, noticed a post from my old ship mate Pete Arnold about the gas turbine container ships. I was wondering if anyone came across David W. Hogg ( from Edinburgh) who I believe was chief engineer then super on these ships? What did you guys think of him? I await the replies with interest.
Cheers George Porteous
 

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Rather late in making the effort. Trawling through threads before I joined SN, with nothing else to do, but don’t tell the wife.

It may have been Chris Walmsley from the Wirral, he was also very good at drawing with chalks. I didn’t know about the rain drops but do recall his mentioning university.

I was relieving ECO on all four GTVs and was on the Eurofreighter for the duration of the 76 drydocking in Falmouth and the BFO system.

I remember Ronnie Keir, Rab Fraser and Gerry Morrison. I also recall several T shirts emblazoned with a big red tongue with the statement
“BFO Sucks”

Being 1976 (the so called last hot summer) the Mr Whippy ice cream van was parked on the road up to the castle. We were one of the star attractions in Falmouth at the time.

The Railway pub outside the dock gate saw us on several occasions.

As they say, you could write a book.

Peter

Stuart Bearne 2nd Mate, Euroliner, about Sept 1972. I remember he had done a degree or similar.

Stephen
 
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