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any-one spent time on the bauxite run hauling it from the Guyana to Port Alfred in Canada for Saguenay terminal in the fifties,looking for verification of a south-bound port,where we used to load Gypsum, and haul it down to the States
 

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No I wasn't a laker, I sailed on Charles Hills ships for some time ,Montreal City,Bristol City, and our port of calls were in Halifax,Quebec,Three Rivers,Saint Johns,New York,Baltimore and Norfolk. The seaway to the lakes was only a dream back then.
 

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Chuckle Chuckle!!! yes at times we were under water,and also breaking ice going down the St lawrence. Great crew and experienced masters,what else could you ask for.
Its a weird sound to hear the ice on the ships side when you are down below shoveling coal.
 

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Very interesting. Hawthorn Leslie built two bauxite carriers in 1950/51 for the South America to Canada service. They were the Pathfinder and Prospector. They both returned to the Tyne after about 10 years to renew their bottom shell plates. In the yard we thought they were loading or discharging at a tidal berth where they grounded at low tide. Could the hull damage have been the result of regular work in ice?
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Not really back in those days the Saguenay was closed during the winter months we used to do our last run in about Oct -Nov then for the freeze-up time we built up the stock-pile in Chagaramus Trinidad, where we topped up as you could not take a full load in Mackenzie Guyana,then back on the haul about March up to Canada
 

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Very interesting. Hawthorn Leslie built two bauxite carriers in 1950/51 for the South America to Canada service. They were the Pathfinder and Prospector. They both returned to the Tyne after about 10 years to renew their bottom shell plates. In the yard we thought they were loading or discharging at a tidal berth where they grounded at low tide. Could the hull damage have been the result of regular work in ice?
Fred
Hi. I sailed on Prospector, Pathfinder and Dispatcher. They were shuttlers mailny running between Suriname (Dutch Guyana) and Trinidad in the late 50s untill they were scrapped around 1980. The reason for the new bottom shell plating was that the ships was running into 2 feet of mud going up to Mongo in Suriname. They had to put new bottom plating on at intervalls.
 

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During 1951 and 1952 I was in two tramps -Freecrest and Starcrest -and both were on Saguenay charter.
McKenzie then top up at Chagaramus for Port Alfred..before arrival it was very hard work for us.. Scores of hatchboards to take off and 50 beams from the
tween decks and main decks to remove with derricks.
This was the procedure at all ports.
It was an 8 hour discharge then leave the berth as there were always ships awaiting.
From here to Dingwall NS and loaded gypsum for Savannah.
We received £3 per month Bauxite bonus while on that trade.
Near Port Alfred was a small town Chicatoumi - the most inhospitable place I ever visited -almost as bad as Reykjavik!!
During our time with Saguenay they had about 60 ships of all nationalities on charter..
Stan
 

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I did 12 months on the Sunjarv. Mackenzie to Chaguaramus to North Europe, mainly Ardalstangen. East Coast USA ports. Port Alfred to Kitimat and several Caribbean ports. Did one run to Birkenhead which cost us a year's tax.

Altogether quite an eye-opener for someone used to three month West Africa trips.

Derek
 

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m/v Cheticamp

any-one spent time on the bauxite run hauling it from the Guyana to Port Alfred in Canada for Saguenay terminal in the fifties,looking for verification of a south-bound port,where we used to load Gypsum, and haul it down to the States
First job in Canada, the Cheticamp's steady run, Savana Georgia for Bauxite to
Dingwall or Cheticamp, 1953, Captain Maw (Nicest man I ever knew )
2nd mate Stonehouse (Also a professional wrestler)
very happy ship
Chas (Pint)(Pint)
 

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Have posted elsewhere about this run as I was on SSM ship the Baron Dunmore in 1971 when we went up to that hellhole Mackenzie up the Demerara river,what a godawful place ,from memory you had to wait in Georgetown for the tide to get over the bar and then up to Mackenzie a place covered i red dust,then over to Shagaramus ( my spelling) in Trinidad then on to that cold icy hole up the Saguenay river Port Alfred i think we were the last ship out that year as the river was starting to ice up,not one of my better memories of my time at sea.
 

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Used to have a bauxite run in SSM from Trombetas (couple of days up Amazon) to Port Alfred. Ballast trip back BUT all ballast had to be changed once in the Amazon as quickly as poss incl No.3 Hold so no contamination carried up river. IRW
 

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Loaded at Port Kamsar in November/December of 1975 on SSM's Cape Race on 10 year time charter to Alcan. Not a regular port of call for the Caper Race or her sister Baron Belhaven
Can't remember much about the place except that there was no shore leave.
 

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Used to do a Bauxite run from Trinidad to Mobile Alabama early 1963 on the Naess Clarion 'Denholms'
Hey there1
Was in the trade from Trinidad-Suriname to Canada.The ship`s name
"SUNGEIRA",homeport Bergen,NorwayI had almost a year in the trade
(1970-1971),and that was enought!!
 
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