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Size wasn't the problem it was the fact that they were steam ships using too much F.O. per day. It was only after BP got rid of their small/medium crude carriers that they found they had a problem supplying crude to ports that could only handle those sizes of vessel. They were taken to the cleaners by the charter outfits at a time when charter rates were rock bottom. Finally they started building again to meet that market.
I had the pleasure of serving on 3 of the class, British Queen, Guardsman and Grenadier, all good ships in their way.
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Thanks John and George,

Thorough answer to my question about this class, i think i knew about the Dragoon having been converted for lightering but had forgotten. Wasn't a happy ship for me, C/E was Paul Brennand and we didn't get on so it was a doomed trip for me as J/E. I do remember that the D/A was a lovely slow speed Rolls-Royce, a nice change from the screaming Paxmans of the 'River' and 'Itty' boats.
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GeorgeM13, Snap, I was an apprentice on the Guardsman in 1964 when she was still pretty new and shiny and later senior app. on the Bombardier. They were both comfortable and well appointed ships in my opinion. The Bombardier was particularly pleasent to live on as our accommodation was amidships so you hardly knew the engines were beavering away down aft. Unlike John & Richard I spent the larger part of my apprenticeship on crude carriers.
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I am writing a short profile on British Hussar and would be interested in any anecdotes of members who may have sailed on her; also when the vessel was sold by BP, and when she was sold for demolition.

I only found this website today, so this is my first foray at posting something. I hope someone out there can help.

Many thanks for reading this.
I served on British Hussar in 1970 for 6 months while along side in Trieste there was three fires deliberately set in three cabins in the aft accommadation the tanker was pulled off and then anchored to fight the fires does anyone else know about this incident.
 

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Not sure if this is related, but I seem to recall a story about a Pyromaniac J/E in the fleet. I think he did something similar, and was eventually found out, I think, in Llandarcy.
Last thing you need on a tanker eh?
 

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If my memory serves me correctly, there was a fleet rumour, that the fire in the saloon of the Br. Queen was due to arson. The arsonist on that occasion had apparently, on a previous occasion, rescued his landlady's daughter from his S. Shields digs, which were on fire and was commended for his actions. Only to be found out at a later date.

It was also a fleet rumour, that the crew from the RN ship which assisted the Queen whilst she was on fire up the Gulf, stole the saloon silver.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I sailed on the Hussar in 1969/70 and again in 1971 but, I cannot recall having heard about the J/E cabins being set on fire.

So just how much truth may be attached to these rumours after all these years? As I wasn't there, on my part it is all hearsay!

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Did time on both the Bombardier and the Dragoon. Hated both and suspect they were jinxed from day one. Dragoon had a series of incidents and the Bombardier had a murder (not during my time officer). I think that the Bombardier was the second ship I was on with Alistair if he did the run to Ulsan via the minefields.
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Was on the Hussar 10/71 to 5/72 & 4/73(joined St Vincent CVI, quite novel) to 8/73, couple of pictures taken in the bar in my gallery.
Unable to remember the C/E's names, but seem to remember one was tallish and slim build, with a small beard and glasses, ring any bells?
Medi coasting quite a lot, coming off standby early one morning(full away) it turned out we had just loaded our millionth ton of cargo since drydock, and certain people well led by the C/O decided to have a party, will not go into detail, but was a good one.
There was a rubber dingy on board and some of the braver(foolhardy) would row across Trieste harbour in search of new watering holes.
Was not on board when they had the fire, but the story of the J/E who rescued the kids from a house fire rings a bell.
Did have an O/M who had his wife and son on board, the son could not be left at home as he was a known arsonist,I believe a crew mwmber was designated to keep an eye on him at all times. There were a number of people most unhappy with this situation, and there were moves to make a complaint direct to HQ.
Also did a trip on the Guardsman, both 50's, accomadation wise I consider to be the best I sailed on.
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Shift thy butt then Rudd ..... you have been holding out on us ... Tut Tut and you a senior member too

Barnsey ... just going down town to avoid flak...
 

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Jim et all ..... the J/E mentioned in the stories was indeed the lad who rescued his landlady or someone from a house on fire .... he was much praised in the media and it was an anti climax afterwards. Then there was the fire on the Queen .... apparantly the same bloke. The fires on the Hussar are something I had not heard about.

I was yanked off the "Gunner" whilst coasting at the Isle of Grain, very much to my annoyance to join the "Hussar" as extra second mate to take her via Lands End to drydock in Birkenhead.

The British crew were quite mutinous for some reason or other and amongst a few "Incidents" they streamed a brand new Polyprop over the "back end" on route ..... stupid idiots ... why in the hell they couldnt have streamed one of the Ginormous, soaking wet, heavy, stiff manilas God alone knows... THICKO's.

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Fire on Hussar Trieste

I joined the Hussar in July 70 until November 70 Chief engineer was
J W Walsh and the Captain A L Gordon.
The company sent out two detectives from the UK to investigate they interviewed the whole crew and took statements. Turned out to be two lads from the Liverpool crew and the detectives took them back to the UK at the next port. The lads had been suspected of this before and the police had a good idea who was responsible before they even joined the ship.

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Hi. David
The Hussar was my one and only ship in my brief career as Junior Engineer. I stood by when she was being built in Clydebank, sailed on her sea trials and then on to Falmouth were she had her cradle removed. We sailed to Banias (Syria) twice and Tripoli (Lebanon) once before I was invalided off with a perforated ulcer at Malta. To any of my shipmates who may read this, yes I did survive in spite of the chief steward loading me up with salt tablets. I attach a pic of the Hussar taken from the BP magazine.
 

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I sailed on the Hussar for six months as first trip N/A from March to September 1969. I joined her in Cammel Laird's yard in Birkenhead, it was the biggest ship I had ever seen!!
Did you know that British Ropes chose the Hussar as a floating experiment to check the long term effects of weather exposure on their ropes? A wooden frame on the monkey island was hung with dozens of different types in an experiment that was due to last for 5 years.
It was on this ship were I learned all about chipping, scraping, painting,tank diving and cement washing F.W. tanks!!
On our way to the gulf we made the usual stop at Capetown, but whilst manouvering one of the astern turbines was damaged. The ship was ordered to Durban where we stayed in the docks for a week to repair several rows of turbine blades which had been stripped off.We were so close to the city and the beach - fantastic!!
I paid off at the IOG where it took longer to get home than if I had left in the gulf!!
 

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I did two trips on the Hussar, 2/4/73 to 26/8/73 & 25/10/71 to 9/5/72.
Nice ship, still have a soft spot for the 50's, seem to recall a lot of Medi coasting, Trieste quite often.
There was a great p*** up one morning after stand by, well led by the mate, think it was to celebrate the the number of cargoes loaded since drydock.
As said thank god we are not at sea now, glad I did a runner in 86.
 

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i think it was the hussar drydock in malta fire in the engine room every body running here and there with hoses and breathing gear suddenly twigged no water laughed myself silly regards the pig
 

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Ah lovely memories of the Hussar sailed on her twice, as fourth engineer and then third. My favourite ship in my BP Career. Also sailed on the Grenadier 1st trip cadet back in 1968 and on the Dragoon when she was a lightering vessel.

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....... and on the Dragoon when she was a lightering vessel.

Dave P.

Perchance did you know Dave ***mins .. mate on the dragoon ..'Drag 1' I think he was!

Sailed with him as a Deck Cadet with BP a couple of times ... then as mate with him when with Rowbothams, he was Skipper on my last trip with them.
 

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British Grenadier was my 1st ship in 1972. John Riach Scott was the Captain. BP were fitting the Bush reel to reel VCR and TV's on ships at the time and we found a huge collection of Port Said porn when removing the decjhead to lay the TV cables
 

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Hi. David
The Hussar was my one and only ship in my brief career as Junior Engineer. I stood by when she was being built in Clydebank, sailed on her sea trials and then on to Falmouth were she had her cradle removed. We sailed to Banias (Syria) twice and Tripoli (Lebanon) once before I was invalided off with a perforated ulcer at Malta. To any of my shipmates who may read this, yes I did survive in spite of the chief steward loading me up with salt tablets. I attach a pic of the Hussar taken from the BP magazine.
I joined the Hussar at IOG in June 62 as a first trip deck apprentice. I vividly remember a foremast fire on my first morning cargo watch. I had not been to sea school and had no training whatsoever, so helped fight the fire (ineffectually) as other folks disembarked rapidly. The IOG fire team were conspicuous by their absence, and it was two fire tugs from Sheerness who eventually extinguished the flames.

I also remember your disembarkation in Malta. Even though we were in the approaches to Valetta harbour, it wasn't very calm so I guess you'd have had a bit of a rough ride to hospital!
 

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I painted my deckhead sky blue for a bit of a change. The o/m (N D C Michaels) took one look and said it was not company colours so I had to repaint it back to mouldy magnolia. He never noticed the Radio Room though. Smashing ship though. The only one I was never sea sick on in 19 years at sea. Spent most of the 6 months on board sailing from Adriatic ports in Italy to Banias or Tripoli.
 
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