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Johnny Bain was from the Western Isles and was superintendent in London during the Trafalger House days.
I heard that he had a good position with the Highlands & Islands development Board after leaving Brocks .
John Bain was indeed from the Western Isles, in fact Stornoway, where he still resides. I sailed with John on the Manaar I think it was, and in Calcutta during Ramadan, the crew wanted water on deck at sunset, so I, as duty officer ( 2nd MATE) requested this. The next thing, John is up to my cabin ranting and raving, as was his wont!. I told him to f---k off, and not to talk to me like that in my cabin. We have been great mates ever since, in fact he is god father to my elder son!

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Masirah Memories - Troop 234 Metairie LA

This might evoke a few memories particularlt to thoes of us who were previlaged to meet the Now Orleans Elizabethans.

The photo appeared in the Times-Picayune in 1959 when Mrs Robert Laurent and her Marine Scout Troop visited Masirah and exchanged flags.

Carol is in the center with Capt. Stan Broughton on the right and Malcolm G MacLean C R/O and leading light in the exchange and visit, he is quoted as 'the Offical Troop Mascot'.

The girls are (L-R) Karen Walch, Mary Ann Lonergan, Carol Laurent and Cindy Krobert.

My particular Elizabethan family were the Bamforths, Olivia was a leading light in the 'Club' When ever we arrived we would telephone and be collected living off ship while not on duty. There would always be a party, either ashore or on board when all the E Club' would gather and as many as could be spared from the ship if it was a shore party.

We kept in touch for many years and Olivia and her husband visited us in the UK on one occaision..

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This might evoke a few memories particularlt to thoes of us who were previlaged to meet the Now Orleans Elizabethans.

The photo appeared in the Times-Picayune in 1959 when Mrs Robert Laurent and her Marine Scout Troop visited Masirah and exchanged flags.

Carol is in the center with Capt. Stan Broughton on the right and Malcolm G MacLean C R/O and leading light in the exchange and visit, he is quoted as 'the Offical Troop Mascot'.

The girls are (L-R) Karen Walch, Mary Ann Lonergan, Carol Laurent and Cindy Krobert.

My particular Elizabethan family were the Bamforths, Olivia was a leading light in the 'Club' When ever we arrived we would telephone and be collected living off ship while not on duty. There would always be a party, either ashore or on board when all the E Club' would gather and as many as could be spared from the ship if it was a shore party.

We kept in touch for many years and Olivia and her husband visited us in the UK on one occaision..

Michael
Yes I remember it well. One of the other girls was Sandra Lee Smith. Believe I must have been on the Masirah this voyage. Other Apprentice was Tom Montgomery who took a shine to Carol Laurant. Remember the parties well. Didnt the Laurents live at 426 Glendale Blvd in Metairie? Was in NOLA a couple of months before Katrina. Still a super place to visit though the hurricane fills one wth sadness.
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Hi Tony

We signed FG Articles in London (Royal Albert)31/10/59 and signed off in London (Surrey Commercial) 24 March 1960. I was Snr Apprentice having joined earlier in Middlesbrough. If you were on the trip I would be please to know of any of the others you can remember from the voyage. And yes the Laurents did live in Metairie, while they were Americans i think the link to the troop came through a daughter of one of the Elizabethans also belonging to the troop. Mac had set all this up on the previous trip so we ended up having a busy time inward and outward. After that trip I went on leave and rejoined Masirah for the next voyage and then the one after as 4th Mate only to transfered in Calcutta to Malakand for the states run so had three trips to NOLA in succession. Elizabethans each time. It almost became a home port for me.

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It certainly does evoke memories

This might evoke a few memories particularlt to thoes of us who were previlaged to meet the Now Orleans Elizabethans.

The photo appeared in the Times-Picayune in 1959 when Mrs Robert Laurent and her Marine Scout Troop visited Masirah and exchanged flags.

Carol is in the center with Capt. Stan Broughton on the right and Malcolm G MacLean C R/O and leading light in the exchange and visit, he is quoted as 'the Offical Troop Mascot'.

The girls are (L-R) Karen Walch, Mary Ann Lonergan, Carol Laurent and Cindy Krobert.

My particular Elizabethan family were the Bamforths, Olivia was a leading light in the 'Club' When ever we arrived we would telephone and be collected living off ship while not on duty. There would always be a party, either ashore or on board when all the E Club' would gather and as many as could be spared from the ship if it was a shore party.

We kept in touch for many years and Olivia and her husband visited us in the UK on one occaision..

Michael
I joined Masirah at Birkenhead in 1958, at the beginning of my first trip to sea as an Eng Apprentice. My fellow cadets were Bob Hudson, Tom Montgomery and Roger Newlands. We were in New Orleans over the Xmas/New Year period. As cadets , we received an invitation from the Laurents, to spend time with them and their daughter Carol, at their Metairie home. It was at this time that the subject of a ships visit by the troop was
proposed, and upon our return to the ship, permission for the visit was agreed by Capt Broughton and Ch Eng Braunton. Ivy Laurent arrived a couple of days later with her troop of Mariner Scouts, for the visit. After being shown around, we all went back to the lounge where sandwiches, tea and soft drinks had been laid on. It was noticable after quite a short period of time
that the young "Ladies" were disappearing, but a lot of noise was coming from
Ch R/O's cabin, and a search revealed that all the girls were there with Malcolm McLean and Frank Dunn, his 2R/O. That was how the adoption started and the photograph shown was taken on the following voyage.
I am still in touch with Bob and Ivy Laurent, who are alive and well in Metairie,
and with Carol, who now lives in the UK with me in Hightown, Merseyside.
I was last in New Orleans in January this year and met up with the Bamforth's
at that time, at a Daughters of the British Empire party.
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Dear MaxieB,
Good to know Carol is with you in the UK.I also was on the Masirah around that time and remember perties in Metaire. Do you or Carol remember Sandra Lee Smith or anything of her whereabouts now. Was in NOLA a couple of months before Katrina.
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Hi Tony,
Your name is ringing bells but I can't picture you. I know that you weren't on
the Masirah the trip I was referring to, but possibly the next voyage.
I had moved on to the Mahronda, then Maidan followed by Mangla.
Carol remembers Sandra Lee Smith but does not know of her whereabouts now, but will check with her Mother for any clues.
As regards Katrina, Carol was in Nola visiting her folks when it hit, and they
evacuated west to Lafayette for a couple of weeks. On return they found relatively minor damage and were a lot luckier than most.
Take care
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Welcome Max Benson

Max,
You and I sailed on the Mahanada together in I think 1962, and possibly again later but I can't think what ship. I remember being sent down by "old man" to tell the chief that you were being transferred to another vessel, and I saw you and gave you the news and then told the Chief. I got one hell of a bollocking for getting the protocol wrong, which upset the Chief big time. I presume that was Karl Bilby.
Time dims the memory.
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Stan,
Good to hear from you, and I do now remember that you told me about the transfer to the Mahseer in Port Sudan..Sorry to hear you got a bollocking though, I wasn't aware of that. Can't remember whether the Chief wasCarl Bilby or ? McGeachin. Must look out those old watchkeeping certificates !!!
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Good to have you on board Max.We were on the Maipuras epic voyage round the cape in 67,as was Philthefreezer!Happy days.Crikey where did the years go? Don.
 

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Jim Pottinger
Going back through old postings(yours of 18/4/06)re John Bain.The advert in Motor Ship was actually John Watt who did indeed come from Aberdeen.The story was that Brocks and RR signed an agreement to test their engines in a sea going environment,as a result MAHRONDA had a Ruston removed and an RR V8was fitted.John Watt was later in a Markhor/Mahout advert.
 

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Good to have you on board Max.We were on the Maipuras epic voyage round the cape in 67,as was Philthefreezer!Happy days.Crikey where did the years go? Don.
Hi Don
Good to hear from you. I remember that voyage. We were on charter to Messegeries Maritime ,weren't we ? If I remember rightly, besides yourself and Phil, R.Seubert was Chief, Jim Aitken 2/E, Dick Wylie 4/E, and the unforgetable Brian from Chesterfield. The least said about him the better.
Owen Pritchard was the Old Man, Pete Swift C/O, Geoff Bellfield SR/O and Ray ? Holmes 2R/O and who could forget Serge Callou, the supercargo.
Jim Sunners PCO and Bill Wilford 2PCO. Good Days and a memorable trip in more ways than can be quoted !!!
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I was with Brocklebanks from 1957 to 1961 as Deck Apprentice and latterly as uncert 4/O.
The ships I sailed on were as follows. Mahout (1925 vintage) from October 1957, two full voyages, remember Captain John Watson Ross and the Third Mate was Bob Kingston (Robert E Kingston, from Dunlaoghaire) Norman Seagar was also apprentice on first trip, tragically suffered fatal accident following trip on Manipur and was buried in Colombo Cemetary. Then the dear old Malabar where I remember my co apprentice was Phil Brimley and also the R/O or was he 2/R/O Dave Courtenay, a little Manchunian with an immense knowledge of films and cinema. Then the Masirah with Captain Stan Broughton, Then Macharda and Matheran both with Captain Maclaren. Maskelia was next with Captain Evans, then the Marwarri with Cylclone Saxty and finally the Maidan in 1961 with John Watson Ross. That was my last trip with Brocks in 1961. Remember many names and characters and experiences. In particular, taking Tamil refugees from Colombo to Jaffna (800 on deck), following nine weeks at anchor off Colombo; good parties in Calcutta and New Orleans. Anybody remember Pam Ritchin and her family in Calcutta, or Sandra Lee Smith and Carol Laurent in New Orleans.
Hi Tony
I was junior apprentice with you (you had top bunk) on Matheran. Do you remember your little sorties with our scouser Chippy? My lips are sealed! Left Brocks as C/O in 1972 and was Master of 70,000 tonne bulker at age 31.
All the best, Terry
 

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I was with Brocklebanks from 1957 to 1961 as Deck Apprentice and latterly as uncert 4/O.
The ships I sailed on were as follows. Mahout (1925 vintage) from October 1957, two full voyages, remember Captain John Watson Ross and the Third Mate was Bob Kingston (Robert E Kingston, from Dunlaoghaire) Norman Seagar was also apprentice on first trip, tragically suffered fatal accident following trip on Manipur and was buried in Colombo Cemetary. Then the dear old Malabar where I remember my co apprentice was Phil Brimley and also the R/O or was he 2/R/O Dave Courtenay, a little Manchunian with an immense knowledge of films and cinema. Then the Masirah with Captain Stan Broughton, Then Macharda and Matheran both with Captain Maclaren. Maskelia was next with Captain Evans, then the Marwarri with Cylclone Saxty and finally the Maidan in 1961 with John Watson Ross. That was my last trip with Brocks in 1961. Remember many names and characters and experiences. In particular, taking Tamil refugees from Colombo to Jaffna (800 on deck), following nine weeks at anchor off Colombo; good parties in Calcutta and New Orleans. Anybody remember Pam Ritchin and her family in Calcutta, or Sandra Lee Smith and Carol Laurent in New Orleans.
Hi Tony
Just remembered Chippy's name on Matheran, Joe Arden. Partners in crime? A very likeable, avuncular bloke.
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SS Maidan

Hi. I was deck app for 2 voyages on Maidan ,both in 1960/61
Walter Couling was Master. A.P.(b-----) Briggs was mate.
3rd mate was Nigel James. 2R/o was Alan Core. Lecky was "case-a-day" Kelly. Other app's Dave Ball and Andy Powell .Memories a bit sketchy on other officers. Plenty of memories of Briggsy.
I sailed with Brocks 1959--1967. retired from sea 1996.
I have tried to upload scan of Maidan Xmas card , sent to my family from Calcutta xmas 1960. I,m not very good at attacments.

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Jim Pottinger
Going back through old postings(yours of 18/4/06)re John Bain.The advert in Motor Ship was actually John Watt who did indeed come from Aberdeen.The story was that Brocks and RR signed an agreement to test their engines in a sea going environment,as a result MAHRONDA had a Ruston removed and an RR V8was fitted.John Watt was later in a Markhor/Mahout advert.
Glad for your correction Don, you are correct, will need to dig out the old issue
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First trip - on bunkers in Durban - sail for Gan - mail on arrival - dear John from memsahib and a wee note from sherrif court to say that cursory road block on last night of leave (coming home from a barn dance in Kinlochleven ) had turned up that me driving my mates car home ( he was pi**ed) had meant no insurance so my licence would be removed for 9 months and a small fine to boot - 2 months wages.All this meant that I was a little late returning from shore leave to be informed that a "logging" would be instructed the following morn. Never spoke to man again.
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I was that fiver....

Hi Bob,
I remember you and George, my wife coasted with us. George had a big round smiling face and everyone got on well. I was transfered to the Maskelya in Calcutta 1959, because I got scolded on the Macharda a ship from hell, that's why I stayed on the Maskeliya for so long. I wish I could thank the fiver who took my place. I have a great picture of her posted at British Merchant Navy site.
Trevor Walker
Hello Trevor
Yes, believe it or not I was the fiver who was transferred from the Maskeliya to the Macharda in Calcutta signing on to your "Ship from HELL" 1st December 1959 and to cut a long story short I concur with your broad assessment including the general 'unease' in relation to The Ch. Eng. Mr Bain.
My first year or so with Brocklebank on the good ship Maskeliya was a dream come true after serving an apprenticeship at Parsons Marine on the Tyne.
With Ron Iliffe as Ch. Eng. I recall the 2nd. Eng. was George Snaith and I recall he had his wife with him...what a trip. We took a young lady from the UK to the Seychelles. We youngsters were given a pep talk re the young lady by Capt. Evans with regular reiteration from Ron Iliffe. What a reception when we arrived off Mahe!!! as if my memory serves me the young lady's father was the publican...
Happy days with Brocks. cut short by your accident finally were concluded in August 1960 when I joined SS and A enjoying the longer trips down under.
I do hope you have been able to pick up this thread again Trevor, I have enjoyed the experience thank you.
I am well retired living in Western Australia. I would certainly be happy to be contacted should you you wish to...
 
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