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Could anybody please post some information on MAIHAR 11 1968.
Was she built especially for Brocklebank, if not then for whom and under what name?. Where was she built and what became of her? What motive power did she have etc.

Apart from the photo that I have posted are there any more out there?

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Designed and built by Brocklebanks. Someone has posted an account of the design and ordering process, but can't get the brain to attach a name, and I can't find the article today. I have posted pics of Maihar on the Brocklebank forum. Built in Eriksbergs and or Lindholem in Sweden (Gothenberg). If/when I get scannered up I have one of Mahsud to post.

Motive power was two V14 medium speed non reversing Pielstiks at 450rpm geared to a single shaft at 115 rpm, and also to either of two shaft alternators. Variable pitch propellor controlled by KaMeWa system. If they were the same as the Eriksbergs tankers she had a 5 cylinder alternator for when the shaft alternator wasn't running. Used to sound like a bofors gun shooting seagulls when the board was changed for manoeuvring, or for deep sea after manoeuvring.
 

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I remember that one or other of the Maihar or Mahsud punched itseld into the passenger terminal in Columbo, allegedly when the CP propellor had failed safe to full ahead, although scruched back to the collision bulkhead, I think she made it to Singapore for drydocking......
 

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Spud Wood's first command. According to hearsay at the time they "clutched in" with the KaMeWa inactive, the pitch control lever would be at zero, but the propellor would lapse to Pitch 10 ahead, took about an hour after the KaMeWa hydraulics were powered off (normal full sea speed was pitch 8¼ or 8½). Mahsud I think but that bit's hazy now
 

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Brocklebank's MAIHAR 11

I have read that Maihar 11 was sold to Panama in 1978 and re named Garnet, but other than that I dont know any more I am afraid.

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Thanks guys for all that info, Maihar compartment in brain now filled and filed away for another day.
Knew I could rely on SN boys.
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If you can fit just a little more in......... There used to be another photo of MAIHAR (or it could have been MAHSUD) in the Photo Gallery before the crash that was similar to yours, although that one was a bow shot. I can't remember who posted it though. Also another couple of smaller ones in a Brock thread of MAIHAR/MAHSUD when on the Japan - USA run, posted I think by Chief Officer Hugh.
 

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Maihar (II)

PS. None of these accidents would never have happened on the ssshteam driven Maihar (I) !
Serves them right for building a grease driven engined ship.
(Tongue in cheek, maybye!)
 

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Designed and built by Brocklebanks. Someone has posted an account of the design and ordering process, but can't get the brain to attach a name, and I can't find the article today. I have posted pics of Maihar on the Brocklebank forum. Built in Eriksbergs and or Lindholem in Sweden (Gothenberg). If/when I get scannered up I have one of Mahsud to post.

Motive power was two V14 medium speed non reversing Pielstiks at 450rpm geared to a single shaft at 115 rpm, and also to either of two shaft alternators. Variable pitch propellor controlled by KaMeWa system. If they were the same as the Eriksbergs tankers she had a 5 cylinder alternator for when the shaft alternator wasn't running. Used to sound like a bofors gun shooting seagulls when the board was changed for manoeuvring, or for deep sea after manoeuvring.
Found it. It is Jim Pottinger's info under your pic.
 

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My father was the Brocklebank rep for the building on the Maihar and its sister and 2 tankers (luminous and lustrous) in Gothenberg between 1965 and 1968. I don't remember too much about it being only 5 when we came home.
 

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I think I was in sister ship MAHSUD as 2nd R/O when we had news of MAIHAR's incident in Colombo. I think we had the info via GWZM sched. Seem to remember the info was that the generator went off the board while approaching the outer harbour and she rammed the harbour wall as the KaMeWa failed to the 'feather' state at a critical point. There is some memory of the Arkas failing too and the rudder going hard over - though I can't be sure about it. On MAHSUD, whilst in mid-Pacific, some-one put the kettle on in the chartroom, blew the trips and the Arkas did indeed go hard over. Quite alarming to be suddenly going in circles! Can anyone confirm this sort of thing could happen with the Arkas? ( or was the kettle just cir***stantial evidence of some other failing?)
 

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Hi Stuart,

The info from Duncan Haws's book for Maihar 2 (& Mahsud 3):
B: 1968 A/B Lindholmens Varv., Gothenburg. T 9,416g, 5,790n, 11,659 dwt.
D: 505/153.92oa, 470/143.26 x 63.3/19.29 x 37.5/11.43. Dft 28.3/8.62
E: Sgl scr, cont. pitch KaMeWa type, oil. 2 x vee 14cyl Pielstick, 4s.sa, srg, 11,600shp, 18 -1/2 kts. By builder. Cont pitch bow thruster. Engine bridge operated. Crew 14 + 42 Asian.
H: Steel, 2 = pt 3rd no 2 hold. F 47/14.32. P 92/28.04. 9 hatches (1.3.3.1.1)/5 holds.
C; 631,000/17868 cu g, 20,000/566.3 ref. Cranes: 5 x 5 ton. Derricks (Hallen swinging type; operated by a joystick from the deck console: 2 x 5 ton, 2 x 10 ton, 1 x 25 ton, and 1 x 60 ton. Transom stern. White hull, blue band, blue waterline over a dark red underbody, Side loaded refrigerated space. Press button hatch openers. Bathing pool.
1968 May: The first ship built abroad since 1774 and the final vessels actually built to the order of Thos & Jno Brocklebank but delivered to Cunard-Brocklebank Ltd. Both were designed by Yarrow Admiralty Research Department. Built for the newly developed US Gulf ports - South Africa - Indian service. Delivered in white hull livery.
1971 Aug: Taken over by Trafalgar House Investments Ltyd.
1978 March: For sale in the river Fal. Sold to Garnet Maritime S.A., Panama. Renamed Garnet.
1981 Dec 8: The ship was in collision with the tanker Molaventure (Mojo S.A.) in Port Said Roads and both had to be beached. Abandoned semi-submerged; towed out 70 miles and sunk.

I also have a Sea Breezes article about one of these sisters somewhere in my archives. Send me a PM if you'd like me to scan it for you.

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As said in previous threads Mahsud and Maihar were built by Lindholmens in Gothenburg . The Pielstick engines were built at the Eriksberg yard . The drive was through a Renk Gearbox to KaMeWa CP propeller . They were both Unmanned Machinery Space vessels .
There were two shaft alternators which could be used for main power generation or to supply the Bow Thruster. The shaft alternators could be used whether the engine was clutched in to the CP prop or not .

Port operation was effected by 2 of 3 Paxman diesel alternator sets which were the worst sets I ever sailed with .
Deck gear included A S E A Deck Cranes .

I stood bye Mahsud in Sweden and sailed on her a total of 9 times ( 6 as Ch/Eng )

I sailed on Maihar twice as second and once as Chief .

In 71 while I was 2 nd Engineer we had a gear box explosion and ensuing fire in the engine room in Tokyo Bay en route to Kobe .

I will post the complete story in the engineering section at a later time .

The first ship to stand bye us was the ex Brocklebank vessel Maidan . We were towed to Yokohama for repairs .

It was also Maihar who put the bows back 22 ft in Colombo ; Sailed to Hong Kong for repairs as I recollect .

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Yes! docgk,I remember very well the kettle sending the ship veering to starboard.Got up to the bridge(12-4 watch) and the 2/O informed me he had plugged the kettle into a socket in the chart room and things went crazy.Fortunately I knew where the supply breaker was(outside the Ch.Engs.room). Breaker had tripped, reset it and we were on our way. Of course I'd unplugged the kettle by then.This socket had been somehow connected into the Arkas circuit. That was soon fixed!
This was only one of many faults encountered on Maihar and Mahsud in which baffling faults occured.
Incidentally if my memory serves me it was Mahsud which had the prang in Colombo.
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Agree with you John that the Maihar was sunk as you say.The Sea Breezes article was the one by Terry Scarret probably, I also have it in my archives (I think) but it is a few years ago now.
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My father was the Brocklebank rep for the building on the Maihar and its sister and 2 tankers (luminous and lustrous) in Gothenberg between 1965 and 1968. I don't remember too much about it being only 5 when we came home.
Last time I saw your Dad Geoff was in the Udny Arms ( Newburgh ) with Allan Atack many moons ago . Allan also stood by in Sweden with your father ; as did Jake Donnelly .

Regards Derek


There is a photograph of the MV.Mahsud in my Gallery if your care to look .
 

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Derek,

Good to remember the Udny (Dad lived there for a year back in 1972). I remember Alan vividly and some of the other visitors to Scotland over the years.

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Yes I remember the kettle incident very well. Docgk was 2R/O and on watch if I remember correctly and I was 1R/O doing something else (in the bar?) and suddenly we heeled over quite rapidly to starboard. I went galloping up to the Radio Room to warn Graham (Docgk) to be ready in case of something dramatic happening and then went on to the bridge. Roger Newton 2/O had indeed plugged the kettle in and tripped the breakers. That Arkas was something of a pain and remember Docgk and I spending many hours on the Japanese coast trying to fix a baffling fault, a task rendered substantially more difficult by having no manual or circuit diagrams.

I also recall that very shortly after we joined in Philadelphia in September 1969 we had a gearbox explosion, or perhaps gearbox stripping it's teeth, (or something very similar) whilst on passage to New York and we subsequently spent several days alongside a berth in Brooklyn getting it fixed. This took about 5 days so obviously was not of the same magnitude as the Maihar incident.
 

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Tony I think your date is a year off my discharge book shows we joined in Sept 70 New York and I left Rotterdam 17 Feb 71 .The vessel was Mahsud .

I was 2nd Engineer and Alan Atack was Chief . There was no explosion on Mahsud . On a routine gear box inspection I found a crack in one of the teeth . Eventually using dye penetrant we found 4 teeth with cracks ; a Dr. Pinekempf
from Renk attended the vessel and we removed the sections of damaged teeth by careful pencil grinding . Luckily the damaged teeth were not adjacent to each other . The cause of the damage was found to be misalignment between the Main Bull wheel and pinion which was caused by the fact that the pinion outer clutch carrier had become slightly loose at the bolting interface . These bolts were re torqued and locked using new locking cups over the cap bolt heads .
Renk gave permission with Lloyds blessing to operate the gear box at 50 % load so we could proceed to Rotterdam and change the Main Bull Wheel .
We developed a " Clutch Drill " to ensure the teeth were perfectly meshed ; this consisted of after clutching in both engines one was declutched and its speed dropped below that of the clutched in engine and gear box such that the bull wheel was driving the unclutched pinion and the engine then clutched in again . This procedure was then repeated for the other engine .

Seems complex but only took a few minutes .

Another SN member Ray Charlton joined the ship in Philly as 5th engineer .

The 50 % gear box load translated to 70 % engine load and Lloyds had use alter the governor overload settings . we did a sea trial and proceed to Rotterdam where the Bull wheel was changed .

The "root Cause" of this problem ( the outer clutch carrier locking device ) was also the cause of the Maihar explosion in October of 71 where I was also 2nd Engineer . Thats another story which I have yet to post .


Regards Derek
 
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