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CapnbobNZ,
now then my man how are you doing long way from the Stack of Bricks and Coopers Arms or the Prospect Of Whitby.
how the hell did they let you into NZ i would have thought you would have been first refugee they would turn back. . No doubt like all the guys in Blue Star , Port Line **** Shovel, Federal lines ,yea you met this lovely New Zealand girl her father had a big sheep farm and you fell for her .
Well Bob you seem to have done well and well done , it is great to see all your old mates from Ben Line having done well around the various parts of the world.
I am hoping to have a meeting g with John Ferguson ex master Fast Stena Catamaran Irish sea and Alex Burns who is over here from Perth OZ, JF lives in Ayr and Alex is in Renfrew , he worked for Waverley Off Shore.
Ben Line has as you may know no vessels or rigs but is know the biggest ships agency and port agent in the Far East with 150 offices.
Dougie Macrae is living in Canada and is a retired Fireman , I have been in correspondence with him a few times on this site , I cannot remember how Dougie ended up in Canada or even how he became a fireman. I want bore you with my arras as you have probably read them on this site. keep the stories coming Bob if ever over hear give us a bell keep her steady as she goes ,best regards Ian.
 

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CapnbobNZ,
now then my man how are you doing long way from the Stack of Bricks and Coopers Arms or the Prospect Of Whitby.
how the hell did they let you into NZ i would have thought you would have been first refugee they would turn back. . No doubt like all the guys in Blue Star , Port Line **** Shovel, Federal lines ,yea you met this lovely New Zealand girl her father had a big sheep farm and you fell for her .
Well Bob you seem to have done well and well done , it is great to see all your old mates from Ben Line having done well around the various parts of the world.
I am hoping to have a meeting g with John Ferguson ex master Fast Stena Catamaran Irish sea and Alex Burns who is over here from Perth OZ, JF lives in Ayr and Alex is in Renfrew , he worked for Waverley Off Shore.
Ben Line has as you may know no vessels or rigs but is know the biggest ships agency and port agent in the Far East with 150 offices.
Dougie Macrae is living in Canada and is a retired Fireman , I have been in correspondence with him a few times on this site , I cannot remember how Dougie ended up in Canada or even how he became a fireman. I want bore you with my arras as you have probably read them on this site. keep the stories coming Bob if ever over hear give us a bell keep her steady as she goes ,best regards Ian.
Great to hear from you Ian,
I never actually got married, close a couple of times but decided it wasn't for me. Did Mates and Masters in Auckland and that's how I got to stay.
When I worked offshore in Australia I saw Alex Burns a few times and also met up with him in the UK.
Talking of Ben Line Agencies, I was getting ready to tow a constuction barge from Batam in Indonesia to Fremantle a few years ago and Ben Line were the agents. I said to the young runner with the Ben Line flag prominent on his jacket that "I used to work for that company",
He looked at me quizzically and said " You are Muslim"?.
You do despair sometimes.
Regards
Bob.
 

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Bob, well there you go , never been to NZ but we have on our bucket list along with OZ , talking of Ben . Mr William is still in charge but is getting ready to step down and retire. The holding company is E G Thomson his uncles original company and Williams son you Ted was there in Spore for some years but has moved on and is working in Oxford somewhere. Some of the old Ben/ BLC directors are still there out east on the board.
John Atkinson has taken over from Archie Watters who has retired from being the archivist looking after masters Chiefs and the rest of senior staff. I haven’t heard from him for a while re those who have passed on . The Last Ben down NZ way was the Reoch drilling for gas I think , she was the biggest structure to go down through the suez piggy back and longest trip . Have you any photos to post ?? Speak later all best Ian .
 

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Weighty, Regarding Dave or Ginger Kite , he was a good lad and clever but hated washing his work gear, he had a galv rebuke in the shower with about three pairs of jeans stuffed init and possibly half a packet of OMO . outward bound after the coast it ws smelling and he had left it in the corner of one of the three showers , i said to him get them out on the floor of the shower and do some treading of the grapes put them through the rough weather handle and twist them till you get all the **** and water out , repeat this and then cub with a scrubbing brush. they actually looked like oilskins thick with grease.
I then said if you cant be bothered get a heaving line put it trough each leg and heave them over the stern into the wash but remember to tie the line to the rail. that is what he did next am from dark denim to light blue and a wee bit shrunk . Ginger had found a new friend , the sea was like his mum it did his washing.
I do wish someone knew where he was , I have done the usual like most of us do on the net searching for folk.
I recall a version of the heaving line trick when in Bank Line. A similar sort of tale of a cadet on Marabank circa 1971 with no interest in washing working gear, leaving it in big sink with water and dhobi powder until the odour was rank. 3rd Engr told him about the line trick, so he threaded the gear through with an old log line and over the stern it went! 3/E told him to leave it overnight. Next morning he pulled in the line and on the end there were a few pieces of material but no full set of clean gear. He was forced to buy some in Aus.

In 1983 I joined the RMAS and one of the ABs I worked with was Alistair Fraser who had been a Ben Line cadet and when he got 2nd Mates they made him redundant. Worked his way up to marine sup't at head office until head hunted by Alexander Towing and thence to Aus with Adstream and Svitzer where he was top man in Western Australia with trips to Singapore where he met often with whichever one of Thomsons ran Ben Line Agencies- small world!
 

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Bob do you remember Peanuts at the stack of bricks when we were there on MAR, his name was Pete Brown from St Hellier his parents owned a hotel there, we went one night to the Prospect of Whitby for his birthday and we all got pissed and the thing in those days was to debag and rip up there jockeys , this we did and he wore the "Y2 front and crutch as a scull cap .
well on way back to Stack of Bricks he had nothing to wear so I always carried a rolled up plastic mack in my back pocket so Peanuts wore that on the bus back down Commercial road but he was hanging on to the post on the long bench seat by the door and everyone was making comments that they could see thru the raincoat. jealous sods. I think Peanuts was a Cayzire Irvine cadet . I did have a photo of all of us standing on the back wall inside the pub with peanuts wearing his scull cap and ripped to shreads jeans.
I have over the years moved my times and my dad looked after all my cine films and photos but alas he died and my stepmother thru them all out including his war photo albums tragic but i have nothing to post or show anyone.
I had a realy good cine of bad weather in Japan sea and also on Valla up the signal mast going through the suez canal panning from ford to aft . i nearly got gazed from fumes blowing ford at slow speed from the funnel . All in a days work.
 

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Bob do you remember Peanuts at the stack of bricks when we were there on MAR, his name was Pete Brown from St Hellier his parents owned a hotel there, we went one night to the Prospect of Whitby for his birthday and we all got pissed and the thing in those days was to debag and rip up there jockeys , this we did and he wore the "Y2 front and crutch as a scull cap .
well on way back to Stack of Bricks he had nothing to wear so I always carried a rolled up plastic mack in my back pocket so Peanuts wore that on the bus back down Commercial road but he was hanging on to the post on the long bench seat by the door and everyone was making comments that they could see thru the raincoat. jealous sods. I think Peanuts was a Cayzire Irvine cadet . I did have a photo of all of us standing on the back wall inside the pub with peanuts wearing his scull cap and ripped to shreads jeans.
I have over the years moved my times and my dad looked after all my cine films and photos but alas he died and my stepmother thru them all out including his war photo albums tragic but i have nothing to post or show anyone.
I had a realy good cine of bad weather in Japan sea and also on Valla up the signal mast going through the suez canal panning from ford to aft . i nearly got gazed from fumes blowing ford at slow speed from the funnel . All in a days work.
Hello Ian,
no, I'm afraid I don't remember Peanuts. One name that I just remembered is Craig Bollen, I believe he went into P and O Personnel management. On the subject of Dave Kite, I'm not 100% sure about this, but within the last 5 years I read in the Nautilus UK telegraph that a Dave Kite, had just retired after some decades with Shell Tankers, I think. Someone was having some sort of presentation for him.
Also on the subject of photos/films etc. I remember going into the Empire Dock in Singapore on the old Benlawers around "66 or "67 and there was a film crew filming us. They were filming all the Benboats for a retirement present for one of the Thompsons.
That would be good to get on video.
 

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Well for those on this thread you will be surprised that three cadets from the past who all sailed with each other two for their first trip on the Benvalla have all ended up living within 25 miles of each other in the county of Yorkshire.
Despite having stared off life from three totally different areas they end up i each others back yard.
They started on the Benvalla 1965 David Kite (Ginger) from Chingford London , Ian Keyl from Aberdeen via Teesside and another Ian from London via Hong Kong. and beleave it or not we all have lived in the same area for just over forty years and I used to visit a good friend in South Cave only a stones throw from David.
we have all managed to get in contact since and another one from further afield in Oz has turned up to help the treasure trail with various clues and that is Alex Burns also off the Valla.
We are hoping for a meet up very soon . A small world but if not for modern media we would have probably never found each other ,certainly the postie couldn't help.
 

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I knew Craig Bollen from Hong Kong days - pre Ben Line (I forgot him when posting #3 previously). When he did MAR he met a trainee teacher from "Raggie Mags" (Teachers Training College not far from Greenwich foot-tunnel) and she 'persuaded' him that sea going was not an option, hence his move into P&O Marine Personnel. At that point I lost touch with him.
 

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cadets from the Past in Ben Line.

As i had mentioned in an earlier post there about six of us meeting up in Glasgow soon having all started about the same time in Ben Line. in contacting each other we have sadly discovered that two of our old colleagues have passed away .
They are Roddy Jardine some time last year and Andrew Dundas who passed away 15 months ago from Cancer,
May we pass our belated Condolences on to their families and for our friends to RIP. May the ebbing tide have taken then to a quiet and sheltered place . Ian
 

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Now Then Keith foo ya doing,
I sailed with George and a great guy and bit of rebel ,i remember once we were in Whites out would come his bright RED socks and his Jesus sandals .
I was speaking to Capt Andy Davidson the other day and he was in good spirits but has had a tragic and nasty turn from diabetes he lost a leg recently from this illness . This has from what he says limited his ability to go places. it was nice to hear from him , I learnt so much from him and he was one person I could have easily sailed with again . hope all well Rgds Ian
 

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Now Then Keith foo ya doing,
Chavin awa, Ian....

Most unwelcome news regarding Andy. I remember him being such a hale and hearty man when we were up for tickets at Robert Gordons.
A great character, he specialised in humour based on the local vernacular.

Regards,

Keith
 

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Aye Keith ,
you are right about the local vernacular he called me Big unn and used two North Eastern sayings gees a feel ure P-ps" was one and the other was "Ga awa yur Ra-e"
And many more his ranting over the hatch combings to dockers who could not understand him was hilarious. A man of detail and respect .rgds Ian
 
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